Kraft Orchids Case - Prosecuters Want a Tug Rule?

[YOUGOTMOSSED]

He was getting a HJ in Jupiter Fl at around 11:30 AM the day of the AFCCG in KC? Are there records that corroborate this?

I would think that even in a PJ that has to be about 3 hour flight.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

I mean come on. Bob Kraft getting caught getting two handjobs is one of the most absurd/funny offseason story lines we were able to enjoy since 2014.

Get it right - HJ and BJ.

 

[Love The Drake]

Kraft is a drunk Honestly he should come out and say he's a alcoholic and he needs help and the alcohol had him make such a terrible decision if sober he wouldn't of.
TWICE

 

[chris_in_sunnyvale]

So I'm here in Florider for the wintah and tomorrow is our geezer breakfast. As a well known Patriots fan I wonder if & what the old coots will have to say. I'm betting on the Giants fans. Considering my reply as something like, "So, are you the 85 year old client #19?"

I had dinner with friends Friday and then attended a large gathering Saturday, both with well known Pats haters. Honestly, people were more talking about it from a WTF standpoint rather than looking to make cheap jokes. Considering the human trafficking part of the story, that's probably wise.

Regards,
Chris

 

[PatsDeb]

I mean come on. Bob Kraft getting caught getting two handjobs is one of the most absurd/funny offseason story lines we were able to enjoy since 2014. Two years of deflategate, one year of Butler-pocaplyse with a mix of "organization is falling apart" with a nice relaxing Falcons SB win wedged in between.

This is great.

I don't find it all that funny. It's beyond pathetic on so many levels that Bob Kraft would go to a place like that (in a Bentley no less - jacka$$), and very sad/heartbreaking for the women who were there against their will or because they had no where else to go for food and shelter. I don't think that Kraft knew or even thought about the sex-trafficking angle, but good God, you dumbass, what were you thinking? The details coming out are getting more disgusting by the minute. Alas, the great Bob Kraft is nothing but a foolish, dirty old man.

 

[farn]

I don't find it all that funny. It's beyond pathetic on so many levels that Bob Kraft would go to a place like that (in a Bentley no less - jacka$$), and very sad/heartbreaking for the women who were there against their will or because they had no where else to go for food and shelter. I don't think that Kraft knew or even thought about the sex-trafficking angle, but good God, you dumbass, what were you thinking? The details coming out are getting more disgusting by the minute. Alas, the great Bob Kraft is nothing but a foolish, dirty old man.

That is all he’s been for years.... I’m most surprised that people are surprised.

 

[holyredeemer]

What was it that Kraft called Belichick during the whole spygate drama? Was it “Schmuck.”? Yup, that was it. He called Belichick a schmuck. That white horse Mr. Kraft seems to always ride on has turned into a plodding, stinky ass.

 

[mosi]

I think this thread is going to top the Malcom Butler thread!

 

[Ring 6]

Again take a step back and say "I got $20 in my pocket so I'm gonna find a man so desperate he'll weed my garden for it."
You good with a guy who has that view of how to treat other people? I'm not.


My point being that if you don't think of sex as some crazy sacred act and instead just another, albeit fun, biological function, than what is the difference between paying someone $20 for a handy or $20 to do some yard work? Except one is much less grueling.

Wow
I guess you see a long history of exploitation of gardeners.
I must have missed all the data of young people sold into gardening, or who were broke and out on the streets needing to garden for their next fix. And don’t even get me started about the gardening pimps.

 

[BadMoFo]

Tom Brady and Robert Kraft Hug It Out Amid Prostitution Case

 

[Boomer B]

An average Tuesday in my life:

 

[catent]

I don't find it all that funny. It's beyond pathetic on so many levels that Bob Kraft would go to a place like that (in a Bentley no less - jacka$$), and very sad/heartbreaking for the women who were there against their will or because they had no where else to go for food and shelter. I don't think that Kraft knew or even thought about the sex-trafficking angle, but good God, you dumbass, what were you thinking? The details coming out are getting more disgusting by the minute. Alas, the great Bob Kraft is nothing but a foolish, dirty old man.

It's sad and pathetic that an older man who is widowed would seek some kind of sexual/female company?

If we grant that Kraft was unaware that those women were not there voluntary then I don't see how we can possibly critique him, other than for perhaps choosing a not-so-coy means of going about attaining this company he was seeking (which is an entirely silly critique to begin with).

I think it's rather harsh to call Bob Kraft a "foolish, dirty old man". Lacking judgment in this context is not equivalent to have some fundamental ethical flaw.

However, I do agree wholeheartedly that it's incredibly unfortunate and sad that those women were being forced into sexual slavery.

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

Party like it’s post 1999.

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

Do I win a prize for post #2000?

 

[Koma]

I just read an article that said he pulled up in a chauffeur drive 2015 Blue Bentley. Somehow i find that hilarious.

Kraft was clearly trying to keep a low profile.

 

[catent]

Wow
I guess you see a long history of exploitation of gardeners.
I must have missed all the data of young people sold into gardening, or who were broke and out on the streets needing to garden for their next fix. And don’t even get me started about the gardening pimps.

There is a long history of exploitation of low-wage workers in this country (and around the world), sexual or otherwise.

You're making a distinction where none exists.

People sell themselves into menial labor tasks *all the time*. And sometimes these individuals work for employers (the pimps) who also exploit their employees and pay them next-to-nothing for incredibly strenuous labor. Oftentimes these employees continue to do this type of work because they have no other choice; they are desperate for income.

It's literally analogous. The only distinction is the type of work. It seems that non-sexual labor doesn't offend you, whereas sexual labor does, regardless of the societal/economic context in which said labor is occurring.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

he is the team......I don't want to lose draft picks, and I think there are other ways to punish him.........but, the best answer is to not put yourself in that position.

fining him is not punishing him, he makes money hand over fist......not letting him go to the games for a year isn't really a punishment......start taking draft picks, and it will become a very effective deterrent regardless of what any fan deems unfair

So BKs misdemeanor arrest is the final straw when it comes to owners and if the NFL needs to kick it up a notch when it comes to punishment so be it?

I’d have a huge issue if were docked draft picks while another owner (who was arrested on 4 felony counts BTW) only gets docked 500k and sits 6 games.

 

[luuked]

I don't find it all that funny. It's beyond pathetic on so many levels that Bob Kraft would go to a place like that (in a Bentley no less - jacka$$), and very sad/heartbreaking for the women who were there against their will or because they had no where else to go for food and shelter. I don't think that Kraft knew or even thought about the sex-trafficking angle, but good God, you dumbass, what were you thinking? The details coming out are getting more disgusting by the minute. Alas, the great Bob Kraft is nothing but a foolish, dirty old man.

I am sorry but I can't muster up enough empathy for a 77 year old rich guy who has had a twenty-something bimbo in his orbit for years. And while you bring up a good point about the girls who work in the place that to me is an entirely different aspect that I can still feel bad about while at the same time laughing at Kraft for being a horny dumbass.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

Kraft is going to do something really dumb like argue that he didn’t pay for the sexual service and that the woman merely offered it in addition to a massage because she was just so generous isn’t he?

Publicly? My guess is yes. Privately? He’s currently bending over to make this go away.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

he is the team......I don't want to lose draft picks, and I think there are other ways to punish him.........but, the best answer is to not put yourself in that position.

fining him is not punishing him, he makes money hand over fist......not letting him go to the games for a year isn't really a punishment......start taking draft picks, and it will become a very effective deterrent regardless of what any fan deems unfair

Robert Kraft is NOT the team. This the Brady/Belichick show and Kraft was along for the ride. And Goondell can’t dock us picks as a deterrent.