Incognito suspended indefinitely by Dolphins

[coolguy]

The word "nigger" no matter how you use it or in what atmosphere you use it, is a derogatory term. There is absolutely nothing positive about the use of that word.

Black people have turned/tried to turn the word into something positive. It's almost the reverse of how the nazi's turned this

positive Hindu symbol into something vile and hateful.

 

[PP2]

Black people have turned/tried to turn the word into something positive. It's almost the reverse of how the nazi's turned this positive Hindu symbol into something vile and hateful.

I am not so sure I see proof that the majority of black people, and especially black leaders are attempting to turn that word into a positive one.

What originally was a symbol of auspiciousness is now a symbol of genocide through no fault of its own, yet we do not use it because of what it symbolizes to people in general, and likewise, the same is true for that word if only just because of the history behind it.

 

[Fencer]

Black people have turned/tried to turn the word into something positive. It's almost the reverse of how the nazi's turned this

positive Hindu symbol into something vile and hateful.

No, it's not comparable. The reason it isn't comparable is that the non-offensive uses are, in large part, still laced with irony -- insults between friends in a tone that makes them not insulting at all.

Incognito WAS insulting Martin when he called him a "half-nigger". The only serious dispute is as to whether it was a joking buddy insult, a serious one, or perhaps both at once.

What I'm saying isn't absolute. But even if you turn out to be right, it's still early days in the changing usage of the term. And there's still way too much straightforward use, e.g. https://twitter.com/Kriegsson

 

[Joker]

Black people have turned/tried to turn the word into something positive. It's almost the reverse of how the nazi's turned this

positive Hindu symbol into something vile and hateful.

actually, that is a Tibetan symbol...not Hindu...here's the table

here's the Wiki link on the Vril Society with annotations regarding the cultural swastika archetypes...

Vril - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Deus Irae]

Former Stanford lineman Jonathan Martin watched the game from the sideline in a backward Cardinal cap. Martin left the Miami Dolphins last month after accusations of bullying from teammates.

Stanford Cardinal vs. USC Trojans - Recap - November 16, 2013 - ESPN

Text from Dolphins player who just saw Jon Martin on TV: "Are you kidding me? smh!!!"

https://twitter.com/ArmandoSalguero/status/401919612696412160

 

[Deus Irae]

NFL has received multiple tips of other potential instances of harassment inside Dolphins' organization, per sources.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/402101156186714112

 

[Deus Irae]

ESPN, citing sources, reported this morning that the “NFL has received multiple tips of other potential instances of harassment inside the Dolphins’ organization.” The NFL investigation is specifically interested in Dolphins offensive line coach Jim Turner, who would “insult, bully and pile it on” Martin, according to the report.

The report said that while Turner is beloved by many players, and is known for using loud, insulting and profane language that is not uncommon in the NFL, the culture around Miami’s offensive line is a part of the probe

Incognito says in grievance that Dolphins didn?t give him... | www.palmbeachpost.com

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Looks like Turner is headed under the bus. The NFLPA will pile on the management guy thereby avoiding the Hobson's choice between 2 players they represent.

 

[Fencer]

Incognito should win his grievance. If his employers thought what he was doing was so detrimental, they should have told him earlier.

If they'd benched him with pay pending an investigation, they would have covered their legal butts without throwing him unfairly under the bus. "He went somewhat too far; we're investigating to see whether it's even worse than we realize" is a stance that they could have recovered well from no matter what happened next.

To repeat re the racist language -- using racist language isn't always wrong, but it is always risky. Use it in the workplace and you deserve to come under scrutiny as to whether you've gone too far.

 

[Ivan]

Looks like Turner is headed under the bus. The NFLPA will pile on the management guy thereby avoiding the Hobson's choice between 2 players they represent.

Somewhere Bill Parcells is watching all of this and thanking god he got out of the game when he did.



TERRY GLENN FILES GRIEVANCE AGAINST PARCELLS AND THE PATRIOTS "He called me she......."

 

[Urgent]

Looks like the story is not the only thing to have grown to epic proportions...

 

[Deus Irae]

Dolphins OC Mike Sherman said he's scheduled to speak to NFL investigator Ted Wells Tuesday.

https://twitter.com/ArmandoSalguero/status/402489759739564032

DC Kevin Coyle says coaches have been told NFL investigation interviews will work around FB schedule to limit disruption of prep.

https://twitter.com/ArmandoSalguero/status/402491867507331072

 

[Deus Irae]

Dolphins OC Mike Sherman said he hopes all players get interviewed by investigators today but said he wasn't sure. Seems like a long shot.

https://twitter.com/AbramsonPBP/status/402571044403179520

 

[Deus Irae]

I'm told Ted Wells arrived at Dolphins camp around 7 this morning and hasn't emerged since.

https://twitter.com/AdamHBeasley/status/402506997440204800

ESPN just showed a stream of Dolphins players walking into team HQs today. I can report, however, that not all 53 have been called for intv.

https://twitter.com/AdamHBeasley/status/402528215757250560

Bill Polian on Ted Wells: "This is a monumental distraction."

https://twitter.com/AdamHBeasley/status/402528748375117824

 

[Deus Irae]

Sounds like NFL investigator Ted Wells started his process in Miami by meeting with Joe Philbin, and a number of Dolphins administrators.

https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/402538551436255232

 

[Deus Irae]

Sources say Jon Martin isn't turning over text messages to Ted Wells; unwilling to sit down with another independent NFLPA investigator.

https://twitter.com/CourtneyNBC6/statuses/410585404602331136

 

[Deus Irae]

In wake of second meeting with Jonathan Martin, Ted Wells has cancelled follow-up meetings with Richie Incognito and several other players.

https://twitter.com/JeffDarlington/status/410552310314446848

All of the players Wells planned to meet with for a second time were offensive linemen. Wells provided them no explanation for cancelling.

https://twitter.com/JeffDarlington/status/410552376253087744

While no explanation was given to players for reason behind Wells’ cancellations, it was made clear that it was result of meeting w/ Martin.

https://twitter.com/JeffDarlington/status/410552434830745601

 

[Deus Irae]

Ted Wells reportedly isn't expected to file a report on his Dolphins investigation before the end of the year:

https://twitter.com/AdamHBeasley