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  1. Rob0729

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    We will never know the truth in the matter. All we know is the 49ers dispute the claims although it goes against what they stated publically in the past on this matter.

    My guess is that they did attempt to contact Rosenhaus to do a deal. Their excuse that they were contacting him about a no name WR that was available on the open market right before the trade deadline seems to be a little fishy of an excuse. It could be true, but I doubt it.

    I will say that Goodell didn't seem to have the goods on 49ers to actually prove they tampered, but I am guessing that their story was transparent enough to allow him to make up a decision.
     
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    pao Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    Come on. No way that happens.

    sdfan
     
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    No NFL team was ever allowed to video tape defensive signals, no matter where the camera was positioned, so let's stop with that. Both teams cheated, that's plain and simple. What I don't understand is how you think the 49ers should have been punished more severely when they never even made contact with Rosenhaus. No tampering even happened. In the end, a player and agent choose where they want to go and just because you call them first doesn't guarantee anything. Unless, you're Asante Samuel.
     
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    pao Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    Plus whatever compensation the 49ers would have had to give the Bears as part of the deal. Remember Briggs wasn't a free agent. I believe the penalty would have been much harsher if Briggs had been an unrestricted free agent and had been signed by SF. As it was there was no deal and Briggs re-signed with the Bears anyway.

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    pao Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    The Eagles should have to switch places with every team in the league too then. After all by tampering they kept all other teams from getting a chance at Samuel.

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    Because they did make contact. That is why they were punished. Did you think he just took away the pick because he felt like it? There had to be some evidence. If there wasn't evidence of tampering then they wouldn't have been punished. Some "source" saying otherwise doesn't make any sense what so ever.

    Also, you forget that the 49ers are repeat offenders. First salary cap violations now free agent tampering. They almost definitely should be punished more harshly for that fact alone. If you think otherwise, please explain why tampering deserves less of a punishment of videotaping.
     
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    You are wrong about the filming. This has been proven, repeatedly. Go read the rule or read one of seemingly thousands of threads on the issue.

    As for tampering, of course it happened. The league says so, and that's the same way we know the Patriots violated a rule they didn't violate.
     
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    http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=391007

    Yep, Florio did use my joke, as he told me he would:

     
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    For once, I agree with Florio--by giving teams an incentive to come forward, the NFL might actually slow down the wave of tampering.

    Personally, I think a better solution would be a change in the way FA works (e.g., a cool-down period when teams are free to negotiate, but no player may sign a contract with a new team).
     
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    The days before the open season we should have all our future free agents walk around with their dicks hanging out and get the cameras zoomed in to see who pulls. Maybe we could somehow got enough swaps to get eventually equal our first being lost, if that is how the game is gonna be played.
     
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    I think the 49ers should have one of their wins taken away... and thus the Pats should now own the #3 overall pick. :D
     
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    He was sarcastic, saying Goodell would find a way to punish the Patriots. It was sarcasm.
     
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    I'm not sure, but wasn't that pre-memo. If I remember that is what prompted the the memo.
     
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    He is saying it happened and the league let teams handle it on their own. Are you purposefully being obtuse?:D
     
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    Tampering with other teams personnel has always been against the rules. You can go back to the Dolphins tampering with Shula when he was the Colt's coach and that they were fined a first roungd draft pick.
    The Pats can if they want file a teampering complaint against the Eagles to frost the azz of Goodell and Spector. I wonder if the blowhard is in favor of enforcing all the rules against cheating. Maybe Leahy and Kennedy can hold hearing about the Eagles cheating.
     
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    Why isn't Arlan Spectum all over this one? It is directly related to competition AND compensation. Isn't that what the Antitrust excemption all about? Isn't that where his "concern" about Spygate comes from?

    How is Spygate worse than this from his point of view? Seriously.
     
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