Draft Rumors

[Kontradiction]

Has a mock draft ever correctly picked a Patriots draft pick?

I've tried to predict Patriots draft picks and have been so wrong that I've gotten mocked for it. Does that count?

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Has a mock draft ever correctly picked a Patriots draft pick?

Michael Holley has been right a couple of times I think...usually he hears something the day before.

 

[maineman209]

Because they won 2 SBs?

That franchise is rotten to the core.

My dad is a Giants fan and even he admits there is an unjustified elitist quality amongst Giants fans.

Well, first of all, I was really just trying to be "punny". Epic fail, there, apparently.

I'm not sure why they're Giants fans in particular, but they are kind of natively "elitist" and likely would be whether Giants fans or not. My wife and her sibs grew up in the real-life version of Star's Hollow and all attended Ivy League schools.

Anyway, they "mock" the Pats mainly because they're terrifyingly young (late 20s). Thus, they have only a shallow understanding of football and its history (and pretty much history in general), and are extremely susceptible to the manipulative narratives propagated by BSPN, CNN, etc.

They also mock the Pats to try to get a rise out of me, to some extent, and have always been extremely skeptical of (or apathetic about) any explanation I have on any subject. Although I was born in NYC, I'm from Michigan (which is where my wife and I met), so there's always this unspoken undercurrent to my relationship with her sibs and their progeny that she "married down."

 

[Love The Drake]

I've tried to predict Patriots draft picks and have been so wrong that I've gotten mocked for it. Does that count?

Predicted Chad Jackson
Honestly I think that maybe the only one I got right

 

[maineman209]

Michael Holley has been right a couple of times I think...usually he hears something the day before.

Actually, I think he has a method for back-dating his posts and tweets.

 

[Love The Drake]

Actually, I think he has a method for back-dating his posts and tweets.

Genius

 

[Sfpat]

He's really very bad. Wouldn't trade more than a bag of footballs for him.

a conditional 7th round pick in 2019 or 2020 at most

 

[SHOWTIME15]

2018 NFL Draft Rumors: 'Serious buzz' on Baker Mayfield No. 1 to Browns, 'definitely' in play

This would change everything:

Browns - Mayfield

Giants - Darnold

Jets - Allen

Colts - Barkley

Broncos - probably trade down to a team thay desperately wants Rosen.

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

2018 NFL Draft Rumors: 'Serious buzz' on Baker Mayfield No. 1 to Browns, 'definitely' in play

This would change everything:

Browns - Mayfield

Giants - Darnold

Jets - Allen

Colts - Barkley

Broncos - probably trade down to a team thay desperately wants Rosen.

I don't see the donkeys doing that if quenton nelson's there.

 

[Kontradiction]

I don't see the donkeys doing that if quenton nelson's there.

Or Chubb.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

I don't see the donkeys doing that if quenton nelson's there.

Elway announced that the 5th pick is for sale. He seems desperate to trade down.

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

Elway announced that the 5th pick is for sale. He seems desperate to trade down.

That's very interesting. They could use some help on that OL. Nelson's one of those guys that likely will be effective right away. Maybe they can fleece some idiot team. Maybe the bills.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

That's very interesting. They could use some help on that OL. Nelson's one of those guys that likely will be effective right away. Maybe they can fleece some idiot team. Maybe the bills.

That’s what I was thinking - Bills desperate to get Josh Rosen.

John Elway has put the 5th pick on the market

 

[WaterfallJumper]

there's always this unspoken undercurrent to my relationship with her sibs and their progeny that she "married down."

Oh, well that explains a lot.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Predicted Chad Jackson
Honestly I think that maybe the only one I got right

I wish you'd been wrong. Saw lots of him his 2 training camps here. Sculpted, robust Ty Law type physique with zero in the head. Brady visibly despised him, at one point in scrimmage stoped play to signal him off the field as apparently he'd lined up totally wrong again. He'd be on the field yukking it up instead of focusing on his assignment. Visibly awful. I used to attend camp a lot back then and got blasted on this forum for calling him out as a bust from the get go. Visible bad attitude. Marked contrast to Deion Branch who grokked everything from day one at camp.

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

That’s what I was thinking - Bills desperate to get Josh Rosen.

John Elway has put the 5th pick on the market

Him or Josh Allen if he doesn't go number 1. I still think Allen goes number 1.

 

[maineman209]

Oh, well that explains a lot.

Just to be clear, I'm not saying that they're wrong.

 

[TheRainMaker]

I wish you'd been wrong. Saw lots of him his 2 training camps here. Sculpted, robust Ty Law type physique with zero in the head. Brady visibly despised him, at one point in scrimmage stoped play to signal him off the field as apparently he'd lined up totally wrong again. He'd be on the field yukking it up instead of focusing on his assignment. Visibly awful. I used to attend camp a lot back then and got blasted on this forum for calling him out as a bust from the get go. Visible bad attitude. Marked contrast to Deion Branch who grokked everything from day one at camp.

That's interesting you say that because the limited time he was on the field before his ACL tear, he was making an impact for the Pats. While you didn't see it much on the stat sheet, you could see what he was capable of when he was blowing by DB's and picking up some PI's particularly during the game against Chicago. He even admitted after his ACL tear he couldn't cut at all so that basically ruined his career.

 

[Tuck]

I don't trust Elway as a trade partner. I think there is zero chance Bill will trade with him. Just an opinion.

 

[maineman209]

I don't trust Elway as a trade partner. I think there is zero chance Bill will trade with him. Just an opinion.

Ummm .... ?

With the draft trade value chart, I'm not sure how "trust" or "don't trust" enters into it. A trade for picks either works out mathematically or it doesn't.