Do Patriot fans have less loyalty to Tom Brady than Browns fans did to Bernie Kosar

[Ring 6]

I admit that we disagree?

Which is adnitting you would rather dump Brady and lose a year at his peak to avoid having him fur a year after his peak.

 

[deroc5050]

Which is adnitting you would rather dump Brady and lose a year at his peak to avoid having him fur a year after his peak.

Personally I would have traded JG for 1 1st and 2 2nd rounders and drafted another QB in 2018 to replace Brady in 2020. That would give the Patriots 3 years to develop the guy they chose. But they didn't so that tells me JG is the guy moving forward.

Cleveland did contact the Patriots on day 1 of the draft and the reports I heard the Brows were willing to deal a 1st and 2 2nd rounders.. but the Patriots wanted 3 1st rounders and 2 2nd rounders AKA JG wasn't really up for a trade.

In my meaningless opinion I think this could be Brady's last season with the Patriots.

 

[scout]

Which is adnitting you would rather dump Brady and lose a year at his peak to avoid having him fur a year after his peak.

LMAO. As someone previously posted, you added to your count.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

Brazil's Piraha tribe strongly discourages any conversation (or action) acknowledging either the future or the past. Some researchers say the Piraha language is a "one, two, many" language in terms of numeracy. That is, they recognize the quantities of one and two, and after that it's just "a bunch." As a side note, many Western languages may display signs of similar construction: the cardinal numbers "one" and "two," for example, are separate from the ordinals "first" and "second." After that, it is as if once we learned there was a cardinal "three" we needed an ordinal, so we just moved some phonemes around for "third," and a system applies for making ordinals from that point forward.

Other researchers say the Piraha have no numbers at all. Their language is tonal, with either 10 or 11 phonemes depending who you ask.

If they place no stock in the past or future, they have enormous regard for the reliability of information. They have a suffix conveying "I saw it," and other slots in their language for other levels of certainty. They don't give a crap if you can see the future. They just want to know the present.

It is a small tribe/language, with only about 300 native Piraha speakers.

I fear for their survival, as many of them seem to have taken up residency in this forum.

I am thinking more about the cultural bias for the present only, although we could all be accused of speaking a "one too many" language on this thread.

 

[Ring 6]

LMAO. As someone previously posted, you added to your count.

If you don't believe that then you don't disagree with me. Can't have it both ways

 

[Ring 6]

Personally I would have traded JG for 1 1st and 2 2nd rounders and drafted another QB in 2018 to replace Brady in 2020. That would give the Patriots 3 years to develop the guy they chose. But they didn't so that tells me JG is the guy moving forward.

Cleveland did contact the Patriots on day 1 of the draft and the reports I heard the Brows were willing to deal a 1st and 2 2nd rounders.. but the Patriots wanted 3 1st rounders and 2 2nd rounders AKA JG wasn't really up for a trade.

In my meaningless opinion I think this could be Brady's last season with the Patriots.

rumors are rumors.
And trading next year instead if this year is very possible.

 

[Tony2046]

Brazil's Piraha tribe strongly discourages any conversation (or action) acknowledging either the future or the past. Some researchers say the Piraha language is a "one, two, many" language in terms of numeracy. That is, they recognize the quantities of one and two, and after that it's just "a bunch." As a side note, many Western languages may display signs of similar construction: the cardinal numbers "one" and "two," for example, are separate from the ordinals "first" and "second." After that, it is as if once we learned there was a cardinal "three" we needed an ordinal, so we just moved some phonemes around for "third," and a system applies for making ordinals from that point forward.

Other researchers say the Piraha have no numbers at all. Their language is tonal, with either 10 or 11 phonemes depending who you ask.

If they place no stock in the past or future, they have enormous regard for the reliability of information. They have a suffix conveying "I saw it," and other slots in their language for other levels of certainty. They don't give a crap if you can see the future. They just want to know the present.

It is a small tribe/language, with only about 300 native Piraha speakers.

I fear for their survival, as many of them seem to have taken up residency in this forum.

I am thinking more about the cultural bias for the present only, although we could all be accused of speaking a "one too many" language on this thread.

To Summarize:

"If you live in the moment, that's primitively beautiful but if you don't see the Pats future with JG you might as well hike your prehistoric ass back to the rain forest with your mammoth hide toga and flax woven belt. "

Is that it?

 

[Tony2046]

LMAO. As someone previously posted, you added to your count.

Want to share a short story with you.

My younger brother was the reader and I was the hands on guy. He read books and I worked on cars. He went to law school and did extremely well. I joined the Army and had a blast.

So that's the background.

One day we were both home visiting our parents. He was home from school and I home on leave. He decided he wanted to practice his debating skills. He was always much stronger verbally and our arguments usually resulted in me making him smell my armpit. Anyways we were sitting there watching a TV show in the livingroom and I was eating a Snickers bar. He started an argument of , and I'm serious, whether or not I had actually consumed the candy bar. He was persistent, obnoxious and irritating. His argument strayed quickly from the actual consumption BS to attacking the logic of every answer I gave, which was his plan to begin with.

That's exactly what you are dealing with at the moment. So my advice is to either make him smell your armpit or ignore the BS unless you're having fun with it.

 

[deroc5050]

rumors are rumors.
And trading next year instead if this year is very possible.

Yeah but there was lots of smoke, and..

 

[Ring 6]

Yeah but there was lots of smoke, and..

That doesn't mean anything. It's all rumor.

 

[aluminum seats]

That's the key to really building your post count.

Says you.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

To Summarize:

"If you live in the moment, that's primitively beautiful but if you don't see the Pats future with JG you might as well hike your prehistoric ass back to the rain forest with your mammoth hide toga and flax woven belt. "

Is that it?

Well, close. It's more like,

"I read about the Piraha through some strange string of mental curiosity, and it would be baroquely beautiful to make people think if they don't see the Pats' future with JG etc."

The truth is, if Bill thinks JG should take a hike, he should take a hike.

Brady has defeated everybody and everything, but as the cliché goes, he won't defeat father time. The day that we have to face Bradylessness will come. I see the arguments of those saying it is coming soon.

I agree if BB agrees. I will play "Funeral for a Friend" or if I'm feeling classy, Chopin's prelude in e minor, quite possibly the most morose piece of music ever written until Radiohead put some bouncy left-hand stuff in it and turned it into Exit Music for a Film, and I'll live.

And if a trophy goes elsewhere because of that move on BB's part, there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

 

[AzPatsFan]

While I agree with your over all statement about QB's start to grow inconsistent as they decline.. Brady in no way was inconsistent in 2016/17, and that Falcons team was very good.. they played very good man vs man defense and put alot of pressure Brady. There were some missed throws.. some dropped passes and a huge fumble that got the Falcons going. The Falcons eventually tired a bit and the Pats and Brady kept the pedal to the floor and won the game. That game doesn't signify a decline in TB. 1 game can't do that, even if its the Super Bowl. Oh and the Patriots still won the game without there hall of fame Tight End!

I think Brady has 2 or 3 years left. But after next season he will have most likely 1 or 2 years left.. and you think you might have a possible future QB on the roster.

The Patriots clearly think highly of JG.

I think people are just being realistic.

My position exactly. Well said.

 

[RayClay]

Reading is fundamental.

I enjoy reading. Kosar was a mediocre player a losing fandom overrated.

 

[Ring 6]

I enjoy reading. Kosar was a mediocre player a losing fandom overrated.

Yet they were loyal to him. Imagine how loyal a fan base should be to the greatest of all time within 4 months of watching him play the best SB e we by a QB to deliver championship #5.

 

[DarrylS]

Do Patriot fans have less loyalty to Tom Brady than Browns fans did to Bernie Kosar??

No, Browns fans ran BB out of town when he traded Kosar.

#12 will retire as a Patriot on his terms.. much ado about nothing.

 

[RayClay]

Yet they were loyal to him. Imagine how loyal a fan base should be to the greatest of all time within 4 months of watching him play the best SB e we by a QB to deliver championship #5.

You're saying Belichick should cut Brady even if the fans want him? That's what happened with Kosar.

 

[RayClay]

Haven't seen a Belichick decision based on fan loyalty yet, but i guess there's always a first time.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

If BB cuts Brady, it will almost definitionally be "even if the fans want him." He could be 80, and it would still be "even if fans want him."

This -- and the draft value BB reportedly places on JG -- that makes me think these guys might be on to something.

In BB I trust. I don't know about avocado shakes. LOL

 

[cupofjoe1962]

Yet they were loyal to him. Imagine how loyal a fan base should be to the greatest of all time within 4 months of watching him play the best SB e we by a QB to deliver championship #5.

I love Brady....
I was with Brady from day #1 & I was delighted when Belichick stayed with Brady over Bledsoe.

If I had my way Garoppalo would have been traded before the draft, but that did not happen.

I may not agree with it, but I believe Garoppalo will take over for Brady either after this year or next year.

I didn't decide to take Garoppalo over Brady, but one thing I know for certain.

Bill Belichick usually makes the right decision & I trust his opinion over anyone "including myself" on the Patsfans forum.

I have faith Belichick will make the right decision & I will accept his decision.

If people start booing Brady, you have the right to *****, until then stop complaining about the fans.