Browns coaching staff “irate” with FO over Garoppolo trade

[PatsFanSince74]

The Browns fans hate BB with a passion, mostly because he got rid of Bernie Kosar but also because he was the fall guy for the team leaving Cleveland.

I went to two games in Cleveland since Belichick arrived and both times they kicked our butts. They beat Bledsoe's team 19-11 in 2010 and crushed Brady's 34-14 in 2010.

Maybe Bill's upset about that.

Art Modell was the fall guy for the team leaving Cleveland. But they shure hated him for the Kosar decision.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

The Browns FO should have been inquiring all day about potential trade targets, instead of waiting for someone to contact them.. they are the ones with the draft capital.

The ineptitude of that organization is on full display for the rest of the NFL to watch and laugh at..

But, you do have to give it to them. It's a noteworthy accomplishment to be that bad!

 

[PatsFanSince74]

At this point Cleveland wasn't in the running because they did not have a back-up QB that could be sent the Patriots' way to take Garropolo's place. Their time to get Jimmy G would have been this spring, or at least before Brisette was dealt to the Colts. They either didn't try hard enough then, or the Pats weren't dealing, depending on whom you believe. The Pats could have called them and asked them to outbid SF, but they didn't (unless the FO was already home in bed, LOL). What does that tell you?

Shhhh.
Remember, it was a coincidence that the Niners released Hoyer and a coincidence that he signed with the Patriots. Nobody "sent" him anywhere. These were two, independent decisions by Management and a Player, in which neither the Niners nor the Pats were involved.
That's their story and they're sticking to it!

 

[zoostation]

Very relevant in the 50's when Paul Brown was the coach and in the 60's when Jim Brown was the running back.. they were perennial powerhouses in the old NFL..

They won 4 NFL Championships prior to the Superbowl era..

Yeah yeah.... I know. How about this. Irrelevant since their 20 minutes in the 80's.

special note: I also realize it was much more than 20 minutes in the 80's. I really just wanted to call them the Clowns.

 

[mgteich]

Why would you assume the patriots didn’t reach out to Cleveland before completing the deal?

To quote someone named andy, CLE didn't have Hoyer.

 

[Ring 6]

To quote someone named andy, CLE didn't have Hoyer.

That doesn’t mean you don’t talk to them.

 

[TheBostonStraggler]

Shhhh.
Remember, it was a coincidence that the Niners released Hoyer and a coincidence that he signed with the Patriots. Nobody "sent" him anywhere. These were two, independent decisions by Management and a Player, in which neither the Niners nor the Pats were involved.
That's their story and they're sticking to it!

While the evidence at hand is purely coincidental, Hoyer ending up on the Patriots was about as happenstance as beer sales skyrocketing on Super Bowl Sunday.

With that said, Hoyer was free to sign with anyone (more money and better chance at starting could have been offered) and the Patriots were free to sign anyone (better situation for the Patriots may have appeared). A wink and a nod was the case but a wink/nod guarantees nothing (business is business). Bottom line: there's an upside and downside for going the informal route. This time it paid off -- next time it may not.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

While the evidence at hand is purely coincidental, Hoyer ending up on the Patriots was about as happenstance as beer sales skyrocketing on Super Bowl Sunday.

With that said, Hoyer was free to sign with anyone (more money and better chance at starting could have been offered) and the Patriots were free to sign anyone (better situation for the Patriots may have appeared). A wink and a nod was the case but a wink/nod guarantees nothing (business is business). Bottom line: there's an upside and downside for going the informal route. This time it paid off -- next time it may not.

disagree a bit.
The downside is greater than the upside when both institutional partners know that they will likely need to deal with each other again.

Once the institutional hurdle was cleared (i.e., the niners released Hoyer, wink/nod, whatever), there was little doubt that the personal advantages for Hoyer of returning to a team he knew to backup the GOAT was the best possible way to end his career. The Patriots clearly constructed a contract that rewarded that decision.