Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by Brick27, May 3, 2017.
Whose he going to beat out for targets?
If he can make a year 2 jump, he will beat out Hogan for targets. Also if we roll with 11 personnel guess who will be seeing mostly single coverage ? A hint it won't be Gronk, Cooks or Edelman..
This guy...oh in '75, that is
Not this guy-This one.
Just imagine if ALL the guys we listed on this thread had breakout years !!
Wait...we are talking about football, not acne, right?!
That's what Gisele said.
Then it's time to queue up my John Facenda impression:
"...and they are the greatest team in the long history of pro football..."
Why wouldn't it be Edelman?
Hogan averaged a league leading(I believe) 17.9 yards a catch with 65.5% catch rate. Give him another year in the system; as well as the fact that Brady won't have to split reps in the offseason with JG, so he has more time to develop timing, and Hogan is himself arguably a legit breakout player.
And Brady could benefit from not having Edelman on the field as his binky. Brady spreading the ball out to Cooks, Hogan, Mitchell, Gronk, and 2015 Dion Lewis on the field at the same time sounds scary good.
I like it. Not sure why Malcom Brown need to have some sort of "breakout year" to be worthy of his 1st round status though.
Because Edelman is the bread and butter of the intermediate game. If some team is insane enough to put single coverage on him consistently then let them do it. Works for me.
I'm not really sure that anyone on the Pats will have a "breakout year" , except in the sense of figuring things out and becoming more solid and consistent. In the sense of a payer significantly improving on his level of involvement and his previous season's stats, Van Noy had a "breakout year" in 2016 and I don't think very many fans really noticed. But that's fairly typical of Pats players given the schemes they're working in.
For example, here's the 2016 average catch depth (ACD), YAC, net ypc, (catch %) and tgts/game for the Pats' 2017 WRs and TEs. What does Mitchell need to do to have a "breakout season"? Do the Pats NEED Mitchell to have one?
Gronk - 12.3 ACD + 9.3 YAC = 21.6 ypc (65.8%) - 4.8
Hogan - 11.8 ACD + 6.8 YAC = 17.9 ypc (65.5%) - 3.9
Cooks - 10.2 ACD + 4.8 YAC = 15.0 ypc (66.7%) - 7.3
Allen - 8.2 ACD + 3.4 YAC = 11.6 ypc (67.3%) - 3.7
Mitchell - 7.4 ACD + 5.1 YAC = 12.5 ypc (66.7%) - 3.4
Edelman - 7.3 ACD + 4.0 YAC = 11.3 ypc (61.6%) - 9.9
Amendola - 7.1 ACD + 3.5 YAC = 10.6 ypc (79.3%) - 2.4
Bennett - 5.3 ACD + 7.4 YAC = 12.7 ypc (75.3%) - 4.6
Pats' RBs collectively accounted for 8.1 tgts per game, on average, in 2016.
Brady averaged 38 pass attempts per game in 2016
I think they are going to try and take some wear and tear off of Edelman. He takes a serious beating. I think he will have fewer targets and receptions and a higher YPC and YAC.
I hope Flowers becomes an elite pass rusher for us
It seems to me that Flowers is already almost as "elite" as it gets for Pats' pass-rushers. His 9.5 sacks last season (regular and post) are about the average peak players in the Pats' schemes. Chandler Jones was kind of an anomaly.
Unfortunately I doubt if it will be Mitchell for the exact reason you gave. With Cook on board Mitchell becomes the #4 WR on a team that features 2 TE's. That doesn't bode well for getting the number of targets that will create a "breakout" season.
In fact, given the number of targets the RB's and TE's get in this offense I sometimes wonder if ANY WR is going to put up big individual numbers
That's because Gisele is just coming into her sexual peak. She has been quoted as being a reason the Pats won the Super Bowl.
My choice would be for the IOL to make a jump. The more time TB has helps him use all his new toys, improve his longevity & helps out the new RB's.
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