Are we ignoring the recent Guerrero news?

[RobertWeathers]

It is simply unrealistic to think that someone of Tom Brady’s current level of fame can just pal around with anyone he passes on the street the way he maybe could 15 years ago.

Oh cmon I saw Tom at TGI Fridays going to town on the endless ribs and nachos special

 

[Drewwho]

...and let's talk about the TB12 merchandise...

Last year he got pretty beat up over that $200 cookbook. I haven't seen the cookbook but I have seen others that have been Published by celebrities and they do run for over $100+ bucks easily - sometimes much more. Oprah had a cookbook out for $300 last Christmas that me and my siblings had to chip in for as a gift for Mom. Serious! Note: Oprah is a Gazillionaire

His TB12 book, which I do have, is under $20 on Amazon. That book could've easily gone for over $70 it's a huge book, hardcover with excellent photography and has a ton of information including recipes.

Who's been shopping this Christmas? Pretty much all of us I would gather. Do you see anything out there you can get that's good quality under $50. The pajamas that people want to make fun of because they're too expensive, I actually do have. I got them as a gift last year and you know what, they are fantastic! A comparable of pair of those pajamas at L.L. Bean would be $145 or $200 at Landsend.

The food service, same thing... The purple carrot TB12 food service is completely in line with other directed home food services in terms of price. It's not exorbitantly expensive at all.

What's the point of listing all this? People got completely offended last year when they saw the price tag on some of this TB12 loot because Tom Brady and Gisele a very wealthy. It's like he has no right having his own business generating his own capital. Meanwhile, Peyton Manning can franchise Papa John's and make millions of dollars doing that getting people fatter across the country while Tom Brady is making money getting people healthier and launching a whole new way to think about your body health and how to train without straining your body!

Such double standards!!! So yes, Tom Brady is one of the most polarizing athletes in the country!

 

[seven]

I can understand how the team might be distracted by Guerrero though.

 

[1960Pats]

The Boston Globe/Red Sox strike again. 18 pages and counting over nothing.

 

[maineman209]

QBs having their personal trainers or even chiropractors located in their facilities and part of the traveling party to games is not uncommon at all. Beginning of the year on a Monday night game they talked about Derek Carr traveling to games with his personal chiropractor. Also this week on NFL network, someone made mention that P Manning had two individuals that were not only in the facility but one of them treated other players and traveled to every game while he was with the Colts. I'm sure this is not uncommon across the board for all of the quarterbacks the NFL. This all goes back to one important fact no one can deny...Whatever Tom Brady does it becomes HUGE news. The man is incredibly polarizing!

Someone in sports media tweeted just the other day that incidents of friction between teams and personal trainer types (and not just for QBs) are very common around the league every season.

The two reasons we're seeing so much reporting on this one are ...
1) It's Tom-effing-Brady, Belichick and the Patriots
2) Most media types (and their bosses) deliberately seek to characterize every disagreement as a grade-school playground fight, igniting and feeding off of the irrational response of their lowest common denominator audience for the sake of ad revenue.

 

[Snake Eyes]

So if Guerrero believes in a flat Earth, I need to reevaluate the whole spherical Earth paradigm, because TB12 is good?

Maybe instead I can give him credit for nutritional and flexibility advice, while rejecting the batshit-crazy scientifically impossible woo.

Perhaps those "batshit-crazy scientifically impossible" ideas might actually have some validity that you simply don't understand, maybe it would be a good idea to investigate the theory Guerrero is operating off of before writing him off. If you look closely there are tons of "scientific truths" that were later discovered to not be true at all, but in order to discover that you need to be open to the possibility that you don't know everything and someone else can be right.

The Doctor Who Championed Hand-Washing And Briefly Saved Lives

 

[Snake Eyes]

I'm sorry but this is a bad take. We have no idea how much Guerrero is helping Brady. As has been stated in this thread many times, we agree that focus on flexibility instead of strength along with hydration and a healthy diet is probably making a big difference.

But it's ridiculous to state we should "reevaluate paradigms" of looking at body's pH balance and concussion water and all that (i.e. the quackery part) because Brady is playing well at age 40. It's a sample size of one person, who himself is an outlier as a football player and is a unique individual. You can't draw ANY conclusions whatsoever as to whether Guerrero's quack theories are making a difference, and to try to do so is just bad science and analysis.

The sample size of QBs playing at TFB's age is greater than 1, but the sample size of QBs that couldn't even make it that far is a lot greater. Brady isn't just an exception by his age, he's also an exception because he trains differently.

As far as bad science goes, ignoring Brady's success because the sample size is too small is bad science.

 

[condon84]

Brady will always be our QB, but Guerero comes off like a quack.

Like a snake oil salesman, he's convinced Brady that his methods work. Kinda like how placebos convince people they are no longer sick.

 

[Bruins29]

There are plenty of people that think really expensive speaker wire and interconnects "make" (magically) their home theater system sound better.

PT Barnum was right.

 

[1960Pats]

I'm trying to ignore all of the bs about Guerero but that's hard to do. It's everywhere, like dogshit.

One of the best lines I heard was on 98.5 this morning. They were claiming that it's a real story because "a major newspaper reported on it" (the Globe). Those at 98.5 must not be paying attention.

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

Perhaps those "batshit-crazy scientifically impossible" ideas might actually have some validity that you simply don't understand...

I don't claim to know all of his theories, but I think I understand perfectly the craziness of some of his ideas. Maybe it helps that I have 4 degrees in science and have done extensive research into the functions of the membrane ion transporters that tightly regulate pH in all eukaryotic cells. Apart from that, though, a great many of his ideas ought to make the average 5th grader say "That makes no sense, dude".

The goofy "low pH causes cancer" idea is pretty simple to explain, and like most goofy theories, the champions of it try to latch onto some science for support, without digging deeper.

In the 1920s and 1930s the German biochemist Otto Warburg discovered that growing tumors, in their immediate environs, have a slightly diminished pH. This is because the cancer cells use glycolysis, not oxidative phosphorylation, for energy production because it is rapid, needs no oxygen supply, and thus allows unchecked cell growth despite its inefficiency.

Why the acidity? Large amounts of lactic acid is a by-product of glycolysis, their means of energy production, and they make lots of lactic acid-exporting proteins to get rid of it, like having a cellular bilge pump. This pumping out of lactic acid slightly lowers the extracellular pH.

Logical conclusion: Tumor cells characteristically produce lactic acid, lowering local pH.

bat-**** crazy misinterpretation: cancer is caused by lowering your body's pH, so you ought to eat "alkaline foods" to change the pH of your cells to a range where cells cannot become cancerous.

What do they say is an "alkaline food"? Hmmm... since they wanted people to buy into it, they decided to call anything that was seemingly bad for you "acidic" and anything seemingly good for you "alkaline" and all-the-while hope that people do not know the difference. They generally call meats, fats and sugars acids (they are not) and generally call most vegetables and fruits "alkalines" (they are not).

The truth is that the acidity of the foods that you eat can indeed affect your stomach pH, and thus consuming less acidic foods help with conditions such as acid reflux and ulcers. So can having your stomach produce less HCl, with proton pump inhibitors.

But...once nutrients pass into your blood, unless you have one of a few specific diseases, your body tightly regulates pH in all of its cells. If pH drops every so slightly too low, it is adjusted by exporting monocarboxylates (e.g, lactate, pyruvate, acetate, etc.). If it goes every so slightly too high, it is adjusted by importing monocarboxylates.

Bottom line: Nothing you eat or drink does a damn thing to these tight pH controls characteristic of all cells. If these systems fail, even slightly, you die.

Specialty "alkalinized water" does, however, very efficiently drain your wallet.

 

[Steve102]

Brady will always be our QB, but Guerero comes off like a quack.

Like a snake oil salesman, he's convinced Brady that his methods work. Kinda like how placebos convince people they are no longer sick.

At 48, I had an epiphany when it came to my health. I lost almost 40 lbs, and I live in the gym now. At 52, I can do things I couldn't do at 42 or maybe even 32. So it goes without saying that I watch TB12's body of work here late in his career with great interest. I believe that there may be something to what these guys are doing. You can't deny that Brady is excelling at age 40, when most his age are waiting for the call from Canton. I'm not quite ready to buy in and start forking over mortgage payments to the TB12 Method, but I am watching to see how it all unfolds. He may have unlocked the fountain of youth. He might be full of chit. Who knows, but I am watching to see how it goes. I can't be the only 50-something who's looking at this like this.

 

[Snake Eyes]

I don't claim to know all of his theories

The goofy "low pH causes cancer" idea is pretty simple to explain, and like most goofy theories, the champions of it try to latch onto some science for support, without digging deeper.

In the 1920s and 1930s the German biochemist Otto Warburg discovered that growing tumors, in their immediate environs, have a slightly diminished pH. This is because the cancer cells use glycolysis, not oxidative phosphorylation, for energy production because it is rapid, needs no oxygen supply, and thus allows unchecked cell growth despite its inefficiency.

Why the acidity? Large amounts of lactic acid is a by-product of glycolysis, their means of energy production, and they make lots of lactic acid-exporting proteins to get rid of it, like having a cellular bilge pump. This pumping out of lactic acid slightly lowers the extracellular pH.

Logical conclusion: Tumor cells characteristically produce lactic acid, lowering local pH.

bat-**** crazy misinterpretation: cancer is caused by lowering your body's pH, so you ought to eat "alkaline foods" to change the pH of your cells to a range where cells cannot become cancerous.

What do they say is an "alkaline food"? Hmmm... since they wanted people to buy into it, they decided to call anything that was seemingly bad for you "acidic" and anything seemingly good for you "alkaline" and all-the-while hope that people do not know the difference. They generally call meats, fats and sugars acids (they are not) and generally call most vegetables and fruits "alkalines" (they are not).

The truth is that the acidity of the foods that you eat can indeed affect your stomach pH, and thus consuming less acidic foods help with conditions such as acid reflux and ulcers. So can having your stomach produce less HCl, with proton pump inhibitors.

But...once nutrients pass into your blood, unless you have one of a few specific diseases, your body tightly regulates pH in all of its cells. If pH drops every so slightly too low, it is adjusted by exporting monocarboxylates (e.g, lactate, pyruvate, acetate, etc.). If it goes every so slightly too high, it is adjusted by importing monocarboxylates.

Bottom line: Nothing you eat or drink does a damn thing to these tight pH controls characteristic of all cells. If these systems fail, even slightly, you die.

Specialty "alkalinized water" does, however, very efficiently drain your wallet.

Perhaps you should examine a theory before claiming it's crap.

As for the pH bit, yes, the body keeps the pH within a very narrow range but here's a thought, what if the effect of having to do so? If one doesn't eat in a balanced manner, on either side of the Ph scale, the body must make effort to keep the blood Ph in the proper range, what are the ripples that result form that?

It's entirely possible to be "right" for the wrong reason. Ignaz Semmelweis was incorrect about the cause of sickness/death in the maternity wards where he worked but he was very correct about using chlorine on the skin before treating the patient.

 

[FCB02062]

The problem with that approach is the peeing.

You'll spend more time than usual taking a leak but the extra water will help your liver filter the alcohol toxins more efficiently than if you don't drink tons water...

Also, pro tip from a guy with a long history of mass amounts of beer consumption, pair the extra water with 2 activated charcoal pills asap after ur done drinking...works wonders

 

[denverpatsfan]

Yes I am ignoring this...

 

[RobertWeathers]

At 48, I had an epiphany when it came to my health. I lost almost 40 lbs, and I live in the gym now. At 52, I can do things I couldn't do at 42 or maybe even 32. So it goes without saying that I watch TB12's body of work here late in his career with great interest. I believe that there may be something to what these guys are doing. You can't deny that Brady is excelling at age 40, when most his age are waiting for the call from Canton. I'm not quite ready to buy in and start forking over mortgage payments to the TB12 Method, but I am watching to see how it all unfolds. He may have unlocked the fountain of youth. He might be full of chit. Who knows, but I am watching to see how it goes. I can't be the only 50-something who's looking at this like this.

There is no doubt Tom leads a healthy lifestyle.

I do think his diet and flexibility/resistance training help him.

However, until there is irrefutable medical and scientific proof that directly links his lifestyle and nutrition to his career longevity I'm not buying it.

 

[Mike the Brit]

Have you ever bumped into Tom while strolling down the street?

I ask because, speaking from experience, each time I've seen him he's always been incredibly gregarious and talkative, really down to earth.

It hasn't happened to me, but it has happened to a friend. He was out in his driveway when two of the most beautiful people he had ever seen came out of the house next door and stopped to chat a bit with him. The truly funny thing is that, despite living in the Boston area, he had no idea who they were!

 

[The Brandon Five]

There is no doubt Tom leads a healthy lifestyle.

I do think his diet and flexibility/resistance training help him.

However, until there is irrefutable medical and scientific proof that directly links his lifestyle and nutrition to his career longevity I'm not buying it.

The problem is that there is not much funding for research into things like diet, etc. There's not much money to be made from finding that a specific diet or exercise regimen is effective. Therefore most funding for clinical studies comes from big pharma. Coincidentally it always turns out that another drug is the answer! Amazing!

 

[RobertWeathers]

It hasn't happened to me, but it has happened to a friend. He was out in his driveway when two of the most beautiful people he had ever seen came out of the house next door and stopped to chat a bit with him. The truly funny thing is that, despite living in the Boston area, he had no idea who they were![/QUOTE]

That happened to my cousin. Hes a great guy but a total dork and knows NOTHING about sports or famous athletes. He was at some clothing store and he was chewing the fat with Pedro Martinez and had no clue. The only reason i know is his wife told me who was watching the whole thing.

 

[Steve102]

The problem is that there is not much funding for research into things like diet, etc. There's not much money to be made from finding that a specific diet or exercise regimen is effective. Therefore most funding for clinical studies comes from big pharma. Coincidentally it always turns out that another drug is the answer! Amazing!

You're suggesting that big Pharma doesn't really want us to live a healthy, long life, but rather a miserable one tied to them to keep us popping pills ?