NFL News 49ers Tried to Acquire Rodgers...?

[Ross12]

You're not the only one who's posited that, but I don't see where that take is coming from. SF's plan has seemed completely obvious, and planned, from the jump, to me.

Yeah, but it feels like they traded up and now they're not 100% sold on whoever it is they think they're going to get. If they honestly believe that, then moving out of that slot and cutting their losses makes sense rather than potentially costing themselves their jobs in a few years by making the wrong decision and giving up what they paid to get there.

That's where I'm coming from Ian. But Deus can also be right - we're basing all of this on random stuff coming out of the media. Maybe SF has known what they want all along and the rest is junk. But even if it is - it's not painting Shanahan and Lynch in a very favorable light. Perhaps they have a plan, but the media is certainly making them look like they don't.

 

[sb1]

has nothing to do with Brady

That picture is your sig? Wow. SMH

 

[SHOWTIME15]

You’re kidding yourself if you don’t think he felt a little jealousy that brady in his first year with all those weapons went to the super bowl. He also felt disgusted. Just like wilson. It would help if these guys where not taking a large piece of the pie in the salary cap.

he’s been disgruntled for a while now. like i said, it’s not Brady, but rather Packers management.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Give us the 2021 season we deserve after Covid:

10-0 Tampa Bay travels to 10-0 New England as Garoppolo vs. Brady gets the highest ratings in league history.

Aaron Rodgers, now with the 49ers, battles Russell Wilson and the Seahawks, for the NFC West crown.

Jordan Love leads the stacked Packers to the playoffs and faces Rodgers the 49ers.

The Saints get a kick start from Justin Fields and run the most exciting offense in the NFL as they win 12 games.

Let's make this happen, NFL GMs.

 

[Ian]

Let's change the parameters a bit, here. Let's say that there are only 2 QBs for the top, and let's call them Al and Bob. Let's say that the team drafting at #1 doesn't need a QB. Let's say that the 49ers trades up to #1 in order to get Al. Now, let's say that, over the course of a month, with more research and interviews, etc... the 49ers look at Al and still like him, but find that they actually like Bob even more than Al.

Why should anyone have a problem with that?

In your scenario, I don't disagree. But I need you to help me with this one...because the two teams ahead of them are both taking a QB...?

 

[NYCPATS4LIFE]

if your Belichick, do you want Fields/Lance or Rodgers?


he’s been disgruntled for a while now. like i said, it’s not Brady

Sure you wanna believe that but i don’t. If he went to the super bowl he wouldn’t be moaning and b*tching.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

if your Belichick, do you want Fields/Lance or Rodgers?


he’s been disgruntled for a while now. like i said, it’s not Brady

Is there any question? Rodgers is an all-time great quarterback. The odds are probably 10% that either Fields or Lance ever get an all-pro nod. Unless this about the money and trade comp (which it would be, but I don't know if it is in your theoretical) it is so obviously Rodgers.

 

[Ian]

That's where I'm coming from Ian. But Deus can also be right - we're basing all of this on random stuff coming out of the media. Maybe SF has known what they want all along and the rest is junk. But even if it is - it's not painting Shanahan and Lynch in a very favorable light. Perhaps they have a plan, but the media is certainly making them look like they don't.

I'm with you. My issue is, if they're suddenly not comfortable with either guy, change course, trade out and cut your losses and try and recoup some of your capital. Or keep Jimmy and take Pitts and pair him with Kittle. Shanahan seems to like Belichick enough to follow his philosophy, so why not...?

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Give us the 2021 season we deserve after Covid:

10-0 Tampa Bay travels to 10-0 New England as Garoppolo vs. Brady gets the highest ratings in league history.

Aaron Rodgers, now with the 49ers, battles Russell Wilson and the Seahawks, for the NFC West crown.

Jordan Love leads the stacked Packers to the playoffs and faces Rodgers the 49ers.

The Saints get a kick start from Justin Fields and run the most exciting offense in the NFL as they win 12 games.

Let's make this happen, NFL GMs.

I think if NBC could do it, they'd pay Rodgers' salary just so they could have Brady leading Tampa Bay into Foxboro to play Rodgers and the Pats.

 

[Deus Irae]

In your scenario, I don't disagree. But I need you to help me with this one...because the two teams ahead of them are both taking a QB...?

Sure, but those names have been known. SF has known that the available QBs were Fields, Lance, and Jones since before the trade. So, they may have loved one of those 3, and they may still like that one, but subsequent interviews, and/or deeper dives of players who went through the craziness of the Wuhan Flu year, may have pushed them towards another QB. I still don't see the problem.


Now, if the story was something like "49ers loved Jones, but did some more research and now think they really screwed up and that he's gonna suck in the NFL", that would be completely different.

 

[moosekill]

In your scenario, I don't disagree. But I need you to help me with this one...because the two teams ahead of them are both taking a QB...?

But the general consensus is the qb's going 1 and 2 has never changed. So SF has always had the choice of the next three. One has to assume they liked at least one of those three enough to move up to number 3. The only possible issue is if they don't like either qb 1 or 2 and the Jets decide to take a different one.

 

[Steve102]

Yeah, but it feels like they traded up and now they're not 100% sold on whoever it is they think they're going to get. If they honestly believe that, then moving out of that slot and cutting their losses makes sense rather than potentially costing themselves their jobs in a few years by making the wrong decision and giving up what they paid to get there.

The only thing that makes any sense to me is that Lynch and Shanny are trying to weaken another team's hand somehow. Trying to get someone they are competing with to make a mistake. None of the ancillary noise makes any sense. They didn't go up to #3 and mortgage the next three year's first round picks without a plan. They went up there with one guy in mind. The rest of this is just drama for drama's sake.

If they went up there without a plan, and now want out of that slot, then they should get canned.

 

[Deus Irae]

I'm with you. My issue is, if they're suddenly not comfortable with either guy, change course, trade out and cut your losses and try and recoup some of your capital.

How do you think they could do that? Who's going to be the trade partner that makes it possible?

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Is there any question? Rodgers is an all-time great quarterback. The odds are probably 10% that either Fields or Lance ever get an all-pro nod. Unless this about the money and trade comp (which it would be, but I don't know if it is in your theoretical) it is so obviously Rodgers.

Rodgers is going to be in the league for 3 years and then he'll be hosting jeopardy. Plus it will take a King's ransom to get him. So I'm not sure. If Rodgers comes for #15, a 2021 1st rounder, and Gilmore, sure...but beyond that I think it's a lot.

 

[Ian]

Sure, but those names have been known. SF has known that the available QBs were Fields, Lance, and Jones since before the trade. So, they may have loved one of those 3, and they may still like that one, but subsequent interviews, and/or deeper dives of players who went through the craziness of the Wuhan Flu year, may have pushed them towards another QB. I still don't see the problem.


Now, if the story was something like "49ers loved Jones, but did some more research and now think they really screwed up and that he's gonna suck in the NFL", that would be completely different.

No, I get what you're saying, I just wasn't sure what you were thinking their alternate move would be? Although, trading for Rodgers would have obviously been the answer if that's what they were thinking.

 

[Todd Bradley]

Really, Rodgers couldn’t of made this known a month ago? Why wait four hours before the draft to leak this?

Bill’s head must be ringing from all the phone calls....hopefully one of those calls went to Green Bay....

 

[Ian]

How do you think they could do that? Who's going to be the trade partner that makes it possible?

See the post I just posted. But it's a good question...I'm not sure who else would want to move up that high unless they wanted to leapfrog ahead to grab Pitts if that team didn't need a QB.

 

[Ross12]

I'm with you. My issue is, if they're suddenly not comfortable with either guy, change course, trade out and cut your losses and try and recoup some of your capital. Or keep Jimmy and take Pitts and pair him with Kittle. Shanahan seems to like Belichick enough to follow his philosophy, so why not...?

I remember a rumor that came out right after SF traded, where they said that SF actually wanted to go higher, but took what they could get and might work up further. If that's true... that might mean Wilson was indeed their target and they had the goal of trading with NYJ one more slot, but NYJ wouldn't bite. And in the end they are left with choices of a few guys they don't love and paid a big ransom for. Perhaps they could trade back down but... at least some amount of damage has been done. They'd stick with Garoppolo, probably, but you'd know Jimmy would probably be a bit jaded now, knowing they tried to ditch him...

 

[Ian]

Interesting...

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Sure, but those names have been known. SF has known that the available QBs were Fields, Lance, and Jones since before the trade. So, they may have loved one of those 3, and they may still like that one, but subsequent interviews, and/or deeper dives of players who went through the craziness of the Wuhan Flu year, may have pushed them towards another QB. I still don't see the problem.


Now, if the story was something like "49ers loved Jones, but did some more research and now think they really screwed up and that he's gonna suck in the NFL", that would be completely different.

I think they've always been big on Jones, and not only that, they're aware of other teams being big on Jones. This isn't unique to see the mock draft world totally unaware of a situation like this.

Just an interesting piece of context around this: several of these coaches are pretty close to each other. Mike LaFleur (Jets offensive coordinator picking second), Matt LaFleur (Packers coach, in talks with 49ers), and Shanahan have obvious ties. So, I'd be very, very surprised if Shanahan had no idea that Mike LaFleur was going to pick Zach Wilson. I wonder if there are other considerations here...example: were the Falcons looking to move up one spot to pick Mac Jones? There's been some smoke about them looking to rebuild and if Shanahan loves Jones than it's probably because he has similarities to Ryan, so the Falcons would have interest too.

And I'll add that just because the 49ers would be willing to trade the 3rd pick for Aaron Rodgers doesn't mean they didn't have a solid plan for why they wanted that 3rd pick. Based on where they are as an organization with their talent, I don't see how they could pass on Rodgers if they can afford him.