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PostGame Thread 2025 OFFICIAL POSTGAME THREAD: Patriots 28, Texans 16

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Then whose fault was it?
That's on Campbell. But I don't know if there are many tackles in the NFL that could have held up against that particular pass rush. Sometimes the big dogs get to eat and you just have to accept it and move on.
 
For some reason I thought Campbell played a bigger role in Maye's fumbles, but after watching some highlights, I realized he was only responsible for 1, IMO:

1. The first one was actually on Moses' side. Campbell had his guy on the other side pretty well handled.
2. The second one was Drake scrambling up the middle and just got it punched out, nothing to do with the OL
3. The third one was 100% on Campbell getting beat immediately
4. The fourth one was on Campbell's side, but Drake had the ball for over 3 seconds by that point and could see the rusher was right on him, he really needed to get rid of it by that point. That's way more on Drake than Campbell.

I don't know if I have the plays in the right order here, but it accounts for all four. I'd really only say Campbell screwed the pooch on one out of four, and he was only even involved in two. Conversely, he recovered two fumbles himself which is very heady of him.
The first one on Moses side Maye had the ball for about 3.5 seconds, so I feel like that was more on Maye and pocket presence. I find his pocket presence or lack of to be concerning (Houston and Chargers games were rough from that perspective), but he is still very young and is too talented not to improve that aspect.
 
Voters for the league's All-Pro (NOT pro-bowl) teams disagree with you. Strongly.
Not necessarily. They voted 2 all pro, that doesn’t mean the entire unit is top 5. Not that I cede analysis to sportswriters either.
 
Ohhhhh REALLY. Let’s look at snaps.


Diggs is our acknowledged #1 ( still recovering to start year, so snap counts don’t mean so much)

Looking at rest of snap counts; so long BOTH WERE HEALTHY, ( thru week 8, & Boutte hamstring injury) please point out to me where / when Mack had more snaps than our #2 Boutte?……..
Hollins played the most snaps of all the WRs
 
My only problem is whether it is also regardless of denomination?

Something I saw in a discussion a couple of weeks ago attributed those gatherings to the Fellowship of Christian Athletes.

Are they nondenominational? Would Jews or Muslims be welcome to join and if they did would the worship be inclusive or would they have to endure exaltations of ************?

I’m concerned because I see religious fervor as being divisive as much or more than it’s uniting. too often it turns into “our god is better than your god” conflicts. And on an individual level there’s no need for this kind of person attack against a fellow Pats fan for example:

The FCA postgame prayer circles go back decades, hardly attributable to "religious fervor." I would assume anyone who wishes to join in is welcome regardless of denomination or orientation, although the prayer(s) likely mention Christ as per the group's namesake.
 
My only problem is whether it is also regardless of denomination?

Something I saw in a discussion a couple of weeks ago attributed those gatherings to the Fellowship of Christian Athletes.

Are they nondenominational? Would Jews or Muslims be welcome to join and if they did would the worship be inclusive or would they have to endure exaltations of ************?

I’m concerned because I see religious fervor as being divisive as much or more than it’s uniting. too often it turns into “our god is better than your god” conflicts. And on an individual level there’s no need for this kind of person attack against a fellow Pats fan for example:
This is something I’ve never understood.
How is a group that shares beliefs gathering offensive to those that don’t share the belief?
Why would those that don’t share it want to participate and why would anyone want them to change to accommodate those that don’t share the beliefs?

Everyone of any set of beliefs is allowed to form their own groups.

If Christians meet together for a Christian prayer, how does that harm non-Christians? The literal purpose of the gathering is their shared beliefs.
 
Hollins played the most snaps of all the WRs
Ignore my first sentence parenthetical and the 2d clause of my second sentence and you are 100% correct.

Congratulations “Board-argument Champion”.*

* you should ask Ian for a banner.
I’m done here. Shout out to @maust for his great advice on avoiding blunders

 
Ignore my first sentence parenthetical and the 2d clause of my second sentence and you are 100% correct.

Congratulations “Board-argument Champion”.*

* you should ask Ian for a banner.
I’m done here. Shout out to @maust for his great advice on avoiding blunders

Regardless of any statement you made I am 100% correct. It is a fact he plays the most snaps of all WRs. It’s not an argument it’s a fact. I’m sorry you don’t like being wrong but that’s a you problem.
 
I know people hate Orlovsky, but he makes good points here.


Yes those Tight window Throws were Phew not many QB's make those throws. I am sure the Houston DC have a new level of respect for Drake Maye. Houston's Brass is probably saying" if the Patriots had a different QB we win this game.
 
Yes those Tight window Throws were Phew not many QB's make those throws. I am sure the Houston DC have a new level of respect for Drake Maye. Houston's Brass is probably saying" if the Patriots had a different QB we win this game.
Drake Maye is better than the Texans defense
 
Yes those Tight window Throws were Phew not many QB's make those throws. I am sure the Houston DC have a new level of respect for Drake Maye. Houston's Brass is probably saying" if the Patriots had a different QB we win this game.
They're probably saying if we had a different QB we win this game.
 
I know people hate Orlovsky
Not sure why - he's always championed Maye, even pre-draft. And he almost always has great analysis of plays. Was it just his MVP musings that pissed some people off?
 
Not sure why - he's always championed Maye, even pre-draft. And he almost always has great analysis of plays. Was it just his MVP musings that pissed some people off?
Yes
 
Not sure why - he's always championed Maye, even pre-draft. And he almost always has great analysis of plays. Was it just his MVP musings that pissed some people off?

I get why people don't like the guy. He gives hot takes and analysts who give hot takes are always hated. He, unlike most of the hot take guys, at least brings value to his hot takes.
 
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