Peter King -One on One with Brady

[TB_Helmet]

Fair enough, not bad at all although I'd disagree. I feel like Brady is still the better player at this stage. Peyton walked into a dream situation & fell off a cliff right after. He already missed an entire year. Brady was in a nightmare situation this year & isn't close to as fragile as Manning was at the time.

Give him those weapons & he'll perform the #'s will be very comparable.

Props for the good post & response.

Yeah, it's all hypothetical.

If you give 43-year-old Brady a team of D. Thomas, E. Decker, J. Thomas at their absolute peaks, and a decent Welker although on the decline, and an O-line that allows about 1 sack per game, and you want to say Brady gets 5500 yards and 55 TDs or whatever it was, to me that's a slight reach. But I'm not going to argue strongly against it.

That year by Peyton pissed me off since it was Brady's TD record that he broke, although passing stats have also inflated since then in general.

 

[IllegalContact]

Any team that wants him is rolling out the red carpet. He'd arguably be the greatest FA ever.

You can't be serious abt the OC part. Brady will bring his playbook & hand it to the OC or they'll get a new one. No questions asked.

There isn't a OC in the league 1/4 as valuable as Brady.

If he does go to LAC & plays 16 I'd bet 2K he surpasses 4000/25 TD or 2/1 TD/INT ratio.

lol.....this is delusional

 

[IllegalContact]

First let’s see what happens and then bet. Everything is pure speculation right now.

It’s only a bet if he plays somewhere else

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Nonsense.

Didn't Brady make $27M this past season?

 

[Ring 6]

Whatever it takes, for as long as is needed to be happy with the cap hit. Brady wants to play until he's 45, so you can easily spread out the cap hit.

I don’t disagree with that but a lot goes into it. Assuming he commits to at least 2 years it’s worth the risk.
But they can’t just write a blank check, and I don’t think Brady will ask for it. Brady has to accept there is more risk to the team than ever.

 

[Ring 6]

Brady is absolutely getting paid.

Again he'll arguably be the most valuable FA in the history of the league. The GOAT QB. Fans are spoiled beyond belief here. 25 other teams would do w/e it took to get him in there. Esp ones that are ready to roll. LAC, Chi, Tenn etc.

We will see. Well hopefully we won’t.

 

[Ring 6]

Lol k bud.

Brady super happy with his surrounding talent!!

So you can’t give one example. Thought so.
There is a difference between the team needing to improve an area and a player acting like a child and blaming others, and leaving because the greatest organization ever had one bad year.

 

[SVN]

Curran: How 'hope' factors into Brady's future in Foxboro

 

[SVN]

I think it all comes down to ego. If the triumvate of brady,BB and RKK can realize the best they can do is together then its an easy solution. If either wants to be stubborn to prove a point or be inconsiderate then it will end badly.

 

[Deus Irae]

I don’t disagree with that but a lot goes into it. Assuming he commits to at least 2 years it’s worth the risk.
But they can’t just write a blank check, and I don’t think Brady will ask for it. Brady has to accept there is more risk to the team than ever.

Historically speaking, there's no more risk today than there was in 2014, because there is no precedence for what we've got today. And we were already hearing the talk about "Cliff!" back in July of 2016.

ESPN's Max Kellerman: Tom Brady's 'Just About Done' And 'Is Going To Be A Bum In Short Order'

Other than Brady being Brady, there's no reason why he should accept anything less than the likes of what Prescott/Wents/Cousins make, especially since he's been taking less than he probably should have been in recent years. Saying that, I hope that he's willing to agree to a more Drew Brees level deal ($25m) instead, with a length that get him reasonably to 45, if he's still capable and desirous.

 

[Deus Irae]

Didn't Brady make $27M this past season?

They played cap games to get his number down to $21.5m.

Apparently, if we listen to the naysayers around here, it will be impossible to play cap games this year. The "why" of it is a mystery to me, but...

 

[Ring 6]

Historically speaking, there's no more risk today than there was in 2014, because there is no precedence for what we've got today, and we were already hearing the talk about "Cliff!" back in July of 2016.

ESPN's Max Kellerman: Tom Brady's 'Just About Done' And 'Is Going To Be A Bum In Short Order'

Other than Brady being Brady, there's no reason why he should accept anything less than the likes of what Prescott/Wents/Cousins make, especially since he's been taking less than he probably should have been in recent years. Saying that, I hope that he's willing to agree to a more Drew Brees level deal ($25m) instead, with a length that get him reasonably to 45, if he's still capable and desirous.

Oh I think there is certainly more risk. Watching Brady in 2019 vs Brady in 2014 it’s clear that he is closer to the end.
There is also a much greater injury risk with each passing year.
But Brady has often been the difference between contender and champion. While 5 years ago I think he would have done better with this years group if you put an acceptable 10 other guys out there he will take them as far as anyone

 

[festy1986]

So you can’t give one example. Thought so.
There is a difference between the team needing to improve an area and a player acting like a child and blaming others, and leaving because the greatest organization ever had one bad year.

I'm not getting into this conjecture with someone who fundamentally ignoring what they saw with their own eyes.

 

[Ring 6]

I'm not getting into this conjecture with someone who fundamentally ignoring what they saw with their own eyes.

You are the one involved in conjecture.
You aren’t saying the receiving corps was bad your are saying brady is going to tell the franchise to F off because he thinks it’s all their fault and the team let him down. There is not a shred of evidence or trusty to that.

 

[Deus Irae]

Oh I think there is certainly more risk. Watching Brady in 2019 vs Brady in 2014 it’s clear that he is closer to the end.

2013 was the down year that had people panicking over Brady. 2014 was the press conference. It's clear that he's closer to the end now because every year will be one year closer. It's not really clear beyond that. His play, when he had the talent around him and healthy, was not the play of a QB in decline.

 

[festy1986]

You are the one involved in conjecture.
You aren’t saying the receiving corps was bad your are saying brady is going to tell the franchise to F off because he thinks it’s all their fault and the team let him down. There is not a shred of evidence or trusty to that.

No one said brady is leaving because his wideouts are bad.

I'm saying that if the pats cant fix this issue, while given him a defense that can compete then hes going to exercise his right to move on.

But to ignore that he doesnt wanna play with the guys he has now is moronic. He doesnt. He didnt say it. We all know it. Let's move on.

Let's not bicker back and forth on wether or not it's true because if you dont believe it to be true you just ignored 17 games that say otherwise.


He will not under ant circumstance waste another valuable year with Meyers, harry and dorsett as 3 of his top 4 wideouts. And I dont blame him one bit.

 

[festy1986]

2013 was the down year that had people panicking over Brady. 2014 was the press conference. It's clear that he's closer to the end now because every year will be one year closer. It's not really clear beyond that. His play, when he had the talent around him and healthy, was not the play of a QB in decline.

People shouldn't panick on wether Brady has it still or not, they should be panicking that bill is gonna let him walk because he cant afford to keep him and provide him the weapons on offense he needs.

Cause that's basically what's going on here. Brady has done wonders with ****ty defenses in the past but we just found out the hard way he cant make chicken soup with chicken **** anymore.

 

[Ring 6]

2013 was the down year that had people panicking over Brady. 2014 was the press conference. It's clear that he's closer to the end now because every year will be one year closer. It's not really clear beyond that. His play, when he had the talent around him and healthy, was not the play of a QB in decline.

Not in significant decline, but there is certainly some level of it.

 

[Ring 6]

No one said brady is leaving because his wideouts are bad.

I'm saying that if the pats cant fix this issue, while given him a defense that can compete then hes going to exercise his right to move on.

But to ignore that he doesnt wanna play with the guys he has now is moronic. He doesnt. He didnt say it. We all know it. Let's move on.

Let's not bicker back and forth on wether or not it's true because if you dont believe it to be true you just ignored 17 games that say otherwise.


He will not under ant circumstance waste another valuable year with Meyers, harry and dorsett as 3 of his top 4 wideouts. And I dont blame him one bit.

You are wrong. There isn’t more to say.

 

[festy1986]

You are wrong. There isn’t more to say.

We already know he cant win with these guys, wether he wants to play with them or not is irrelevant.

Even though we know he doesn't. Everyone but you.