A Note to Bob Kraft

[TheAdultintheRoom]

There's only one way to settle this. Whip em out boys.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

The fact that Jerry Jones got elected into the HOF before Kraft is telling...

 

[TheRainMaker]

The fact that Jerry Jones got elected into the HOF before Kraft is telling...

Jerry Jones did more for the sport. And it’s not even close.

 

[supafly]

Maybe you should apply for the masseuse opening he has.

Hey man, 20 bucks is 20 bucks.

 

[mosi]

Jerry Jones did more for the sport. And it’s not even close.

Examples?

 

[Kontradiction]

Hey man, 20 bucks is 20 bucks.

Legit laughed out loud. Thank you.

 

[Kontradiction]

There's only one way to settle this. Whip em out boys.

No need to. It’s already apparent that he actually agrees with me. He knows it but, for whatever reason, doesn’t want to admit it.

 

[supafly]

Legit laughed out loud. Thank you.

For $40, he can get some on my hands. I’m not picky.

 

[1960Pats]

Dear Mr Kraft,

Thank you for helping turn the legacy of our greatest player and HC into a legacy of cheating.

Sincerely, many more Pats fans than you might think.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

If the Pats get penalized again, how much do you want to bet that Kraft will just accept the punishment?

 

[Joker]

Dear Mr. Kraft<

Please have some members of the grounds crew grab Lou Merloni and squish him face first into an industrial woodchipper,

Sincerely, the army of pizzed off Pats fans that want this little baseball twat to become a Picasso print...

 

[TheRainMaker]

Examples?

The fact that he’s kept the Cowboys as the #1 brand in maybe all of sports despite them being a train wreck for over 20 years is amazing.

He bought the team where the ownership was losing $1M per month. They are worth over $4B today.

He secured Fox as the primary channel for the NFC. And they regularly show the Cowboys as the featured game.

Increased television revenues have played a decisive role in securing the NFL's place as the world's richest sports league, with revenues of well over $10 billion per season.

Jerry Jones - Wikipedia

 

[IcyPatriot]

Hey man, 20 bucks is 20 bucks.

It's 20 bucks per inch only ...

 

[shmessy]

I just told you I’d take either of them over Kraft and that’s even after removing BB and Brady because Kraft is ultimately nowhere without them. They also aren’t getting caught in strip malls getting rub and tugs. There are more too. Owners that stay out of the football ops side of things are interchangeable and what’s important is the coach and QB. But the best owner is completely irrelevant to the topic and hand. It’s a red herring dropped because you’re either going to get roasted for putting a damn owner over players and coaches when it comes to who to thank for the run or you’ll ultimately have to concede my point. You’re stuck and can’t find a way out so you’re pretending like I didn’t answer your completely irrelevant question because you don’t know what to do.

Tick tock, shmessy. Either give me your rank order or tell me what you agree or disagree with regarding the one I set up for you (or mine). You’re not fooling anyone here.

Thank you!

You finally said you'd take Virginia McCaskey (Bears) and the Town of Green Bay (Packers) over Bob Kraft as owners over the past 25 years.

That's Bat$hit crazy, but at least you FINALLY answered the question after much wriggling.

Now, I will answer your SECOND question (I answered in detail your first):

Your question is idiotic. It's like asking a parent to rank their children. They ALL have a job to do. They are completely different jobs.

If you were to ask a fan of the Washington Redskins over the past 20+ years, you would be told that Bob Kraft is easily the most important person in the franchise. If you were to ask a fan of the Indianapolis Colts of the 21st century, you'd be told Brady is easily the most important person in the franchise. If you were to ask a fan of your co-favorite owner Virginia McCaskey's Bears of the 1980's, you'd be told that Belichick is easily the most important person in the franchise.

I happen to think that none of this happens (no team, no Belichick in New England, no Brady in New England) without Bob Kraft. So to me, it is Bob Kraft. Would it have been a championship dynasty without Brady - hell no. Would it have been a championship dynasty without Belichick - hell no. None of it would even be in place without Kraft.

The 3 of them (plus many others) have been organs of one body. If either of them weren't there it wouldn't be what it was. Your question of ranking the importance of your heart vs. your brain vs. your lungs would be a similar question. It's that stupid a question.

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[shmessy]

The fact that he’s kept the Cowboys as the #1 brand in maybe all of sports despite them being a train wreck for over 20 years is amazing.

He bought the team where the ownership was losing $1M per month. They are worth over $4B today.

He secured Fox as the primary channel for the NFC. And they regularly show the Cowboys as the featured game.

Increased television revenues have played a decisive role in securing the NFL's place as the world's richest sports league, with revenues of well over $10 billion per season.

Jerry Jones - Wikipedia

How lucky do you consider Cowboys fans, then?

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[TheRainMaker]

How lucky do you consider Cowboys fans, then?

.

Apparently, they like what they see. They are the most bizarre fan base.

 

[TheRainMaker]

I happen to think that none of this happens (no team, no Belichick in New England, no Brady in New England) without Bob Kraft. So to me, it is Bob Kraft. Would it have been a championship dynasty without Brady - hell no. Would it have been a championship dynasty without Belichick - hell no. None of it would even be in place without Kraft.

Fair enough.

However, he meddled with Parcells, which forced him to leave a team on the rise. Parcells most notably took BB, Weiss and Curtis Martin who tortured the Pats for 3 years until Parcells stepped down with the Jets. Pats declined each year.

Kraft hired BB, who was the hottest HC candidate after the massive upset against the Pats on MNF in 1999 and him slowing down Peyton Manning in both meetings that year.

But BB wasn’t looking too good until Bledsoe got injured and he put in a guy he was convinced to draft in Brady. Brady succeeded right away and BB hit the football lottery getting the best QB of all time.

Because of this, Brady is the main reason for their success.

 

[fnordcircle]

However, he meddled with Parcells,

I'm dying laughing rn. You call siding with the team's GM over the coach 'meddling' in the same argument where you defend an owner who doesn't just meddle but is the goddamn GM?

And you also fault Kraft for losing Parcells who did -jack ****- after leaving the Pats but in the end Kraft landed us Belichick who did far more than Parcells could ever dream. Not to mention that appeasing Parcells would have meant watching Belichick go somewhere else (quite possibly the ****ing Jets of all places)

Look you're free to have your opinions, we both know that, but take a step back and look at how insane you're being in trying to paint Kraft as worse than Jerry Jones. Because really, ultimately, what that means is you'd rather trade Kraft's tenure as owner for Jerry's and frankly that is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. The period of Kraft's ownership is the most dominant a team has ever been in the league, period.

 

[IllegalContact]

Careful now. Half of the forum is hoping they get added to the will and might take exception to that.

But they won’t be talking about sucking his ****

 

[TheRainMaker]

I'm dying laughing rn. You call siding with the team's GM over the coach 'meddling' in the same argument where you defend an owner who doesn't just meddle but is the goddamn GM?

And you also fault Kraft for losing Parcells who did -jack ****- after leaving the Pats but in the end Kraft landed us Belichick who did far more than Parcells could ever dream. Not to mention that appeasing Parcells would have meant watching Belichick go somewhere else (quite possibly the ****ing Jets of all places)

Look you're free to have your opinions, we both know that, but take a step back and look at how insane you're being in trying to paint Kraft as worse than Jerry Jones. Because really, ultimately, what that means is you'd rather trade Kraft's tenure as owner for Jerry's and frankly that is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. The period of Kraft's ownership is the most dominant a team has ever been in the league, period.

Without Brady, BB probably has the same fate as Carrol did.

No need to act like Kraft is some genius. He got lucky getting BB who also got lucky by drafting the Goat. He’s been on auto pilot since.

You clearly missed what I was talking about with Jerry Jones.