Post Game Thread - Pats @ Steelers

[festy1986]

Yes. I know exactly what I say and I make it a point to differentiate between calling someone stupid and calling their posting stupid.

Work on that reading comprehension, Huckleberry.

I can read very well thank you and called you out on your attack on my intelligence. I dont need to argue with you over whether it was directly or indirectly said by you but by saying my comment was stupidity you are saying I am stupid. While claiming that wasnt what you was doing.

It's a pivot and pathetic. But I'm not surprised.

 

[Ring 6]

Correct, there is nobody near him. That is the point, numbnuts. He didn’t have any real pressure but still bailed out to protect himself instead of waiting for Patterson to come open at the back of the end zone and then planting his feet in order to make a strong, accurate throw.

You think that with no one beat him Tom Brady decided to throw the ball and fall down?
Is this the first game you have seen him okay,

It’s not an exaggeration to say that you you may be the only person in America who believes that he fell off to the left because he was throwing the ball wicked hard to his (triple covered) binky and that’s what happens when you throw a football wicked hard.

It would be an exaggeration to say you have a clue.

First, even the right-handed pitchers with the most violent delivery don’t fall on their asses to the left of the mound, when they pitch. Former Reds RP Rob Dibble (who also happens to be my cousin) threw 100 mph with an incredibly violent delivery and managed to stay upright every time. Second, baseball season ended in October. The Red Sox won. It was awesome.

One thing is for sure, Tom House’s job is secure if he is competing against the likes of self-described throwing mechanics coach Andy Johnson.

Ok buddy. Brady’s a chicken **** who is afraid of getting hit. Dumbest thing I’ve seen posted in years.

 

[Ring 6]

I’ve noticed it in the Titans game as well and the sequence ending the first half of the Dolphins game.

It looked to me like he was bailing out on some passes. Then, I read an article last week written by Greg Bedard in the BSJ reporting Brady’s left knee is hurt. Bedard also mentioned that Patriot trainers came out to help him when his knee seemed to give out after the Gronk TD pass against the Dolphins.

That would make sense and be consistent with what we’re seeing where his plant leg is sometimes giving out on him altering his throwing motion. I think that’s what is happening. It’s not a good look you must admit, but I thing we’re going to find out when the season ends that his left knee is not stable and has ligament damage.

No, he doesn’t need to be listed on the injury report because it’s not limiting him in practice nor bringing into question his availability for a game. He’s practicing and playing with it, but, based on Bedard’s report and what our eyes are seeing, Brady’s not 100% physically.

That does look like what happened. When he follows through the left leg won’t suoport the weight.

 

[bormio]

Ok buddy. Brady’s a chicken **** who is afraid of getting hit. Dumbest thing I’ve seen posted in years.

It certainly is on a top 10 list .... Tom Brady turtling .... smdh

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

@AndyJohnson - Your post reflects the logical reality that even you don't have a proper thesis, you will force a stance that shows how out of the times you truly are. You live in a dated world and have absolutely no clue how forums operate. You're too immature to deal with negative stances which are very common and welcome on most forums. I think you know more about football than me, but I'd wager I can properly deal with people and have a higher intelligence in social cues and how the internet works. I also firmly believe you suffer from potential anger related issues.

Oh, and you also had a couple absolute logical fallacies in your post.

 

[bormio]

@AndyJohnson - Your post reflects the logical reality that even you don't have a proper thesis, you will force a stance that shows how out of the times you truly are. You live in a dated world and have absolutely no clue how forums operate. You're too immature to deal with negative stances which are very common and welcome on most forums. I think you know more about football than me, but I'd wager I can properly deal with people and have a higher intelligence in social cues and how the internet works. I also firmly believe you suffer from potential anger related issues.

Oh, and you also had a couple absolute logical fallacies in your post.

Oh this oughta be lit

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

So your argument is that your generation is advanced because all you do is complain?
You also seem to think that the internet is a place where you are supposed to tell people what you think about yourself.
Try getting off the internet and having a life snowflake.

This post is funny because you're so intent on not being wrong that you will willingly dodge logic, create fallacies and insult people without actually realizing the true crybaby is actually you. You have a pattern of snapping, whining and actually crying when people simply say something that is very normal in most forums. However, being so out of the times and obviously not understanding of how forums operate, this doesn't surprise me.

Just by reading our exchange, I can simply and easily conclude I could embarass you in any debate outside football and that includes a debate of logic so the former point of this second paragraph is relevant. I could probably make a youtube video titled: "OMG out of times football jackass actually believes he isn't the moron" with circus music < as I collect hundreds of posts from your Patriots forum career than concludes your every day thesis is both hypocrisy and spineless incarnate.

You're outmatched outside football, clearly.

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

Anyway, I'm done. I don't intend to debate this further because I'm on less than some people so our debate will get lost in pages of posts.

Just had to get that thesis off my chest. However if you ever need someone that can outduel Andy in logic, hit me up boys. Its like a wolf waiting for its dinner.

 

[supafly]

I’ve noticed it in the Titans game as well and the sequence ending the first half of the Dolphins game.

It looked to me like he was bailing out on some passes. Then, I read an article last week written by Greg Bedard in the BSJ reporting Brady’s left knee is hurt. Bedard also mentioned that Patriot trainers came out to help him when his knee seemed to give out after the Gronk TD pass against the Dolphins.

That would make sense and be consistent with what we’re seeing where his plant leg is sometimes giving out on him altering his throwing motion. I think that’s what is happening. It’s not a good look you must admit, but I thing we’re going to find out when the season ends that his left knee is not stable and has ligament damage.

No, he doesn’t need to be listed on the injury report because it’s not limiting him in practice nor bringing into question his availability for a game. He’s practicing and playing with it, but, based on Bedard’s report and what our eyes are seeing, Brady’s not 100% physically.

That could well be the case, although it may not be too bad or they would be more limited in what they can do with him. For example, utilizing the running game and continuing the screen passes to White would help to take some of the pressure of off him. Thus far, we haven’t seen too many limitations, although that may change moving forward.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

He and Da Bruinz are basically ths same - you can’t criticize Belichick over anything.

 

[TB_Helmet]

Jesus what happened to this thread

 

[supafly]

He and Da Bruinz arw basically ths same - you can’t criticize Belichick over anything.

It’s not the fact that they are extreme over the top homers that bothers most of us, that’s totally understandable; but rather the fact that they simply don’t know how to have a reasonable debate with the ability to shake hands and move forward when all is said and done. They have no desire to keep things light, have fun, share knowledge, etc.

They are here to try and “win” arguments, many of which they manufacture themselves by resorting to name calling (“I didn’t say you were stupid, ‘huckleberry,’ I said what you said was stupid”), breaking down a hundred individual sentences like we’re in some type of debate class rather than just agreeing/disagreeing with the general point, and refusing to move on when it’s obvious that someone else has a different viewpoint. It’s mainly just the fact that the tone of the exchange goes to a dark place.

For awhile, I was actually convinced they were the same person with two different accounts, but over time it became apparent that one comes in much hotter in an attacking type of style, whereas the other is just more argumentative in general. It sucks.

 

[luuked]

Bedard also mentioned that Patriot trainers came out to help him when his knee seemed to give out after the Gronk TD pass against the Dolphins.

Bedard back to slinging **** against the wall. There is absolutely NOTHING in the tape of the last 6 quarters to suggest he has a knee injury. Brady moves normally in the pocket, when he steps into throws he looks normal, he gets the usual amount of zip onto thrown balls, he is pretty accurate. Look at the late passes to Edelman on Sunday as an example.

His issues are not physical but for the most part mental. Indecisiveness at times which shows how sometimes he is too early to throw a ball away to avoid contact and at other times he is too late on it. Maybe he doesn't want to get hit as much anymore as before. Maybe he just doesn't feel like he has the same kind of security blanket as before with Gronk being not himself.

Bedard is on his way to catch up with Volin when it comes to coming up with whacky theories. Wonder if he ever will publicly acknowledge his Loyko investigation or just hopes everyone forgets about it.

 

[Patsgofor4]

You think that with no one beat him Tom Brady decided to throw the ball and fall down?
Is this the first game you have seen him okay,


It would be an exaggeration to say you have a clue.


Ok buddy. Brady’s a chicken **** who is afraid of getting hit. Dumbest thing I’ve seen posted in years.

I question whether that was the first gave that YOU have seen Brady play. From time to time Brady has seen ghosts (ie. pressure that isn’t there) has bailed on plays prematurely. That is nothing new. What is new is the frequency with which it has been occurring this year. Even my friends who always circle the wagons for Brady and rarely fault him for anything have been able to objectively view that fourth-down play and see that Brady saw pressure that wasn’t there (probably saw Watt out of the corner of his eye) and bailed on the play prematurely.

First you said that falling over the left in such an exaggerated manner is a natural extension of the throwing motion (while using a totally different sport as your key piece of evidence). I’d love to see other clips Brady doing the same.

You subsequently agreed with Bedard’s laughable theory that Brady’s knee collapsed during the fourth down play and that is why he fell to his left (and in the process argued against your original theory, which was probably proposed by one of your other internal personalities, who was not supposed to come out of his room and went to bed hungry as punishment).

You have to choose one dogsh*t excuse, it can’t be both.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

For awhile, I was actually convinced they were the same person with two different accounts, but over time it became apparent that one comes in much hotter in an attacking type of style, whereas the other is just more argumentative in general. It sucks.

Nah, I actually look forward to which crazy debate they’ll have next. In this sense I actually enjoy what they bring to this forum.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I can live with Bill conceding the run if it means shutting down their top WRs. But this is predicated on the offense doing it’s thing...

Yep. Yards are yards. I'm not freaking out over that either. However getting pushed around, getting 1st down runs on 3rd n 1 and chunk plays which flip field position are unacceptable

 

[Ivan]

No, they’re not. I appreciate the optimism though.

I am not suggesting they have looked like a championship team this season because they haven’t, however whenever everyone really starts writing them off that is the time to go all in on them. After the K.C. Game in 2014, when they traded Collins to Cleveland in 2016, and 28-3, just to name a few examples. And like another poster said just after I posted that, all they have to do is embrace their underdog status and pull a few upsets, just as suckass Eli did on two separate occasions. It may not be the preferred route but I wouldn’t put it past Brady and Belichick to put a bookend Lombardi on their careers by finishing the way they started, with an improbable Super Bowl Run as the underdog. Anyways that’s my story and I’m sticking to it. Enjoy your holidays Kontra.

 

[Kontradiction]

I am not suggesting they have looked like a championship team this season because they haven’t, however whenever everyone really starts writing them off that is the time to go all in on them. After the K.C. Game in 2014, when they traded Collins to Cleveland in 2016, and 28-3, just to name a few examples. And like another poster said just after I posted that, all they have to do is embrace their underdog status and pull a few upsets, just as suckass Eli did on two separate occasions. It may not be the preferred route but I wouldn’t put it past Brady and Belichick to put a bookend Lombardi on their careers by finishing the way they started, with an improbable Super Bowl Run as the underdog. Anyways that’s my story and I’m sticking to it. Enjoy your holidays Kontra.

The thing is, those two teams had a core of young talent on both sides of the ball. This one does not. They also cannot stop the run. Not a formula for postseason success when you want to give Brady and a struggling offense the ball as many times as you can. I think this bad boy is over and it’s just a formality at this point. I’d love to be wrong and will happily eat my words if you’re right and want to cram them down my throat after the season. Happy holidays to you as well.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Yep. Yards are yards. I'm not freaking out over that either. However getting pushed around, getting 1st down runs on 3rd n 1 and chunk plays which flip field position are unacceptable

I was one of the few folks on here after last year’s super bowl saying the Pats were pushed around by the Eagles on both sides of the ball but was met with a lot of Malcolm Butler talk as the real reason they lost

 

[Ring 6]

I question whether that was the first gave that YOU have seen Brady play. From time to time Brady has seen ghosts (ie. pressure that isn’t there) has bailed on plays prematurely. That is nothing new. What is new is the frequency with which it has been occurring this year. Even my friends who always circle the wagons for Brady and rarely fault him for anything have been able to objectively view that fourth-down play and see that Brady saw pressure that wasn’t there (probably saw Watt out of the corner of his eye) and bailed on the play prematurely.

First you said that falling over the left in such an exaggerated manner is a natural extension of the throwing motion (while using a totally different sport as your key piece of evidence). I’d love to see other clips Brady doing the same.

You subsequently agreed with Bedard’s laughable theory that Brady’s knee collapsed during the fourth down play and that is why he fell to his left (and in the process argued against your original theory, which was probably proposed by one of your other internal personalities, who was not supposed to come out of his room and went to bed hungry as punishment).

You have to choose one dogsh*t excuse, it can’t be both.

I did not say it was natural and I did not say his knee collapsed.
I said his follow through created how he ended the throw and that his knee looks like a good explanation.
Throwing a football creates torque in the upper body and a transfer of weight from right to left with a right handed thrower.
The throw had plenty of zip and at the point of the release it was fine. You are crying about the follow through which had zero effect in the throw.