Rewatch Thread: Philly @ NE (Preseason #2)

[Ring 6]

The first job of a player in coverage is to discourage the QB from throwing his way.

100% correct.

 

[maineman209]

Most of the time, but not always. A CB that's excellent at trail tech may want to encourage/bait the QB into throwing the ball his way on deeper routes (such as the 9, 8, or 7 routes) so he can close and make an attempt to get his hands on it. Butler was pretty good at that early on in his career.

IDK. It seems to me that the ideal scenario would be the QB thinking, "Can't throw it there. Nope, not there either. Or there. Or THERE, or ... S**T!"

CRUNCH.

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[Uptown]

IDK. It seems to me that the ideal scenario would be the QB thinking, "Can't throw it there. Nope, not there either. Or there. Or THERE, or ... S**T!"

CRUNCH.

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Ideally lol.

 

[Mack Herron]

White is not big, fast, or shifty, but he is effective because he does so many things well that go unnoticed by many:

 

[Kontradiction]

IDK. It seems to me that the ideal scenario would be the QB thinking, "Can't throw it there. Nope, not there either. Or there. Or THERE, or ... S**T!"

CRUNCH.

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Well yeah, ideally. And that's what you want the vast majority of the time. But I'm just pointing out that there are situations where that doesn't always apply and typically results in a turnover.

 

[luuked]

In terms of the Dorsett play it seems like Lazar agrees with you @long distance .

But Chatham kinda disagrees.



Honestly think the play was supposed to go inside and thats what Dorsett assumed.

 

[Clonamery]

FIFY.

The guard dove and missed his guy. Excellent. Brown lets his guy go inside and make the tackle. More excellent. Inside or outside Dorset wasn't going anywhere. You wanna say he was too deep to come back and have a better position to go outside, fine.

 

[Ring 6]

IDK. It seems to me that the ideal scenario would be the QB thinking, "Can't throw it there. Nope, not there either. Or there. Or THERE, or ... S**T!"

CRUNCH.

Fade to black.

Absolutely. That’s a reason why people who think passes defended is a stat to judge corners by are missing the big picture.

Same with passer rating against.

 

[maineman209]

White is not big, fast, or shifty, but he is effective because he does some many things well that go unnoticed by many:

Bam Childress notes that we should watch what Edelman does to the slot corner covering him on the play.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Might be the 2nd best run White has made since getting drafted tbh.

 

[captain stone]

The guard dove and missed his guy. Excellent. Brown lets his guy go inside and make the tackle. More excellent. Inside or outside Dorset wasn't going anywhere. You wanna say he was too deep to come back and have a better position to go outside, fine.

Dorsett lost yardage when he walked back to the ball when he still had plenty of cushion; mistake #1.

He then turned Into the coverage when, if he had any instincts whatsoever, he should have turned Away from it and toward the sideline; mistake #2.

Neither of these 2 Mistakes had anything at all to do with the blocking, but Everything to do with Phil Dorsett just plain sucking, as usual.

 

[Ring 6]

White is not big, fast, or shifty, but he is effective because he does some many things well that go unnoticed by many:

The old “white goes down on first contact” mantra just isn’t true any more.

 

[Mack Herron]

The old “white goes down on first contact” mantra just isn’t true any more.

He's slow and stubby and I was not a fan but he's grown on me like a stubborn fungus.

 

[long distance]

In terms of the Dorsett play it seems like Lazar agrees with you @long distance .

But Chatham kinda disagrees.

usually id prefer the other way around

Honestly think the play was supposed to go inside and thats what Dorsett assumed.

in any case he should've F'in move and get those yards

 

[Hyped]

I'm not as good at breaking down film as some of you are, so I'm curious how Jason McCourty did overall last night. I know he got beat pretty badly on the touchdown, but outside of that I don't remember seeing him much (which could be a good thing, if he was out there and not getting beat).

There was the one kick coverage play where he seemed to take the wrong angle on the returner (resulting in Gost having to make the tackle), but that was also the return where Moore completely botched his containment, so I'm not sure McCourty wasn't just reacting to that breakdown.

Either way, anyone notice anything good or bad?

It was Jeremy Hill who ran too far to the inside vs. containing the returner. I remember asking myself to look up who #33 was.

 

[Kontradiction]

Chatham = Tool.

Nah, he's just a Patriots fart-sniffer. I do enjoy his play breakdowns, though.

 

[Hyped]

The guard dove and missed his guy. Excellent. Brown lets his guy go inside and make the tackle. More excellent. Inside or outside Dorset wasn't going anywhere. You wanna say he was too deep to come back and have a better position to go outside, fine.

Dunno….if Dorsett had been decisive and ran to the outside immediately...I think that is a TD. Question is whether Dorsett was expecting an inside run to be set up...or was he in the wrong place?

 

[Sicilian]

It was Jeremy Hill who ran too far to the inside vs. containing the returner. I remember asking myself to look up who #33 was.

I'm pretty sure it was Moore (they are both 33).

 

[long distance]

I'm pretty sure it was Moore (they are both 33).

It was Moops!

 

[Hyped]

It was Moops!

Moors!