Game Day Thread 2018 Preseason G2: PHI @ NE

[ForThoseAboutToRock]

After rewatching this frame by frame a few times I think Shaq Mason hits Wynn leg while Wynn is stepping backwards and about to plant his foot and puts him out of balance. Unfortunately the shot is so crowded that you can't really see too much of what happens with the feet.

Well an Achilles tear isn't ambiguous. So we'll know soon enough whether Wynn's out for the year.

While we're on the subject, here's more from one of those sports docs on Rex Burkhead's partially torn knee (whatever that means).

 

[luuked]

Sorry I was adding in a second tweet to my post which has a second doc who was a team physician saying he thinks it's the Achilles.

Yeah I saw all those tweets but like I said I think they are mostly based on the fact that the videos do not make it clear when Wynn hurt himself. So the achilles is the logical next step if nothing obvious happened to the foot. I am not saying it is not the achilles but I just felt better after someone found a frame where you can see his ankle twisting because it means there is a realistic chance that it really is "just" an ankle sprain.

 

[maineman209]

I've had just about enough of Zo. With that said I'd still take him over Fauria.

Honestly, I don't want to hear from, much less see, anybody but the play-by-play guy.

Unless the "extra" people are actually helping with spotting - identifying players on the field, who made the tackle, who's in coverage on who, who's being subbed in - anybody else is pretty much useless, unnecessary and should just STFU instead of taking focus off the players and action on the field. I'd do away with the segments "from the basement" entirely.

That said, Nink has occasionally chipped in a few informative and insightful comments from the sideline, but he still seems to spend way too much air time participating in Zo's drunken frat boy BS.

This kind of crap that now dominates all TV broadcasts is why the Mute button was invented. I really don't understand how advertisers haven't figured this out yet.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Crossen was a disaster.
Isn’t a 57 yard reception the definition of playing poorly. How many snaps did he play?

Jackson was out there a lot. Not sure of snap count. Richards was supposed to provide over the top help on the Jackson bomb. He didn't. Nonetheless he allowed the catch. Not good.

Crossen had a bad night. I think he was sticking with receivers though. If he can fix his technique i think hes athletic enough to play at this level. If not he needs to go.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Honestly, I don't want to hear from, much less see, anybody but the play-by-play guy.

Unless the "extra" people are actually helping with spotting - identifying players on the field, who made the tackle, who's in coverage on who, who's being subbed in - anybody else is pretty much useless, unnecessary and should just STFU instead of taking focus off the players and action on the field. I'd do away with the segments "from the basement" entirely.

That said, Nink has occasionally chipped in a few informative and insightful comments from the sideline, but he still seems to spend way too much air time participating in Zo's drunken frat boy BS.

This kind of crap that now dominates all TV broadcasts is why the Mute button was invented. I really don't understand how advertisers haven't figured this out yet.

Yea I turned the volume down low in the 2nd qtr. I'd had it.

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

Will keionta davis make the team?

 

[Mack Herron]

Yea.

This according to my extensive research which lasted all but 30 seconds on Google.

A tear in this "red" zone may heal on its own, or can often be repaired with surgery. A longitudinal tear is an example of this kind of tear. In contrast, the inner two-thirds of the meniscus lacks a blood supply. Without nutrients from blood, tears in this "white" zone cannot heal.

Also, the red zone shrinks with age, and healing works better with a knee that is immobilized and not stressed. But a small tear can exist in a fully functional knee. Obviously not ideal, but tough to predict.

 

[Ring 6]

Jackson was out there a lot. Not sure of snap count. Richards was supposed to provide over the top help on the Jackson bomb. He didn't. Nonetheless he allowed the catch. Not good.

Crossen had a bad night. I think he was sticking with receivers though. If he can fix his technique i think hes athletic enough to play at this level. If not he needs to go.

Sticking with receivers because you have crappy technique and aren’t really covering them turns into not sticking with them when you have proper technique.
Running into the receiver with your back to the QB is just a different version of torched. Getting into that position in the first place means he wasn’t sticking with the receiver. But he has speed and evidently make up speed so if he learns how to cover maybe he has a future.

 

[luuked]

Will keionta davis make the team?

After BB talking like this about him I don't see how he will not.

 

[jah]

Will keionta davis make the team?

I've been reluctant to buy into his hype and had a hard time seeing evidence of him playing well, but last night I did actually see one or two encouraging plays. He also just wasn't a liability with the first team so there's that. At this point I think he deserves a spot over Valentine (different positions though).

His main competition would be Grissom and Lee. Grissom looks improved while Lee looks to have regressed (or maybe our awful 2017 pass rush just made him look okay in comparison).

 

[luuked]

I've been reluctant to buy into his hype and had a hard time seeing evidence of him playing well, but last night I did actually see one or two encouraging plays. He also just wasn't a liability with the first team so there's that. At this point I think he deserves a spot over Valentine (different positions though).

His main competition would be Grissom and Lee. Grissom looks improved while Lee looks to have regressed (or maybe our awful 2017 pass rush just made him look okay in comparison).

Yeah, Lee looks like a goner.

 

[turkeyneck]

Looks to me like he had his foot planted awkwardly (or maybe it got caught in the turf ?) while Bennett was engaging with him. Which resulted in a snapshot of a pretty twisted ankle.

Sorry to belabor this but I didn't see the game and the pic is pretty muddy.

So Wynn's somewhere behind all those bodies and that's his leg sticking out into the red circle. Then there's the foot either distorted at an impossible angle or there's some trash blowing by in front of it.

And didn't someone post that he played another down after this?

It seems there is a paucity of actual facts (vs. interpretations) here. I'll wait to see what action the Pats take.

 

[Sicilian]

I've been reluctant to buy into his hype and had a hard time seeing evidence of him playing well, but last night I did actually see one or two encouraging plays. He also just wasn't a liability with the first team so there's that. At this point I think he deserves a spot over Valentine (different positions though).

His main competition would be Grissom and Lee. Grissom looks improved while Lee looks to have regressed (or maybe our awful 2017 pass rush just made him look okay in comparison).

Grissom is always good for a few sacks in pre-season, but it never translates to the regular season. I think Davis' best way to beat him out for a spot is to make a mark on ST like he does as well.

 

[maineman209]

Yeah I saw all those tweets but like I said I think they are mostly based on the fact that the videos do not make it clear when Wynn hurt himself. So the achilles is the logical next step if nothing obvious happened to the foot. I am not saying it is not the achilles but I just felt better after someone found a frame where you can see his ankle twisting because it means there is a realistic chance that it really is "just" an ankle sprain.

I can't seem to recall an instance in which a player was injured with what turned out to be an Achilles tear and he didn't immediately go to the ground and stay there.

 

[Kontradiction]

Sorry to belabor this but I didn't see the game and the pic is pretty muddy.

So Wynn's somewhere behind all those bodies and that's his leg sticking out into the red circle. Then there's the foot either distorted at an impossible angle or there's some trash blowing by in front of it.

And didn't someone post that he played another down after this?

It seems there is a paucity of actual facts (vs. interpretations) here. I'll wait to see what action the Pats take.

He's going on IR with an Achilles. Book it.

 

[Ring 6]

Grissom is always good for a few sacks in pre-season, but it never translates to the regular season. I think Davis' best way to beat him out for a spot is to make a mark on ST like he does as well.

Well Grissom only played 37 snaps of defense in the last 2 years so it’s not translating because he isn’t getting a chance. Not that he deserves it but it’s only fair to point out.

 

[luuked]

Sorry to belabor this but I didn't see the game and the pic is pretty muddy.

So Wynn's somewhere behind all those bodies and that's his leg sticking out into the red circle. Then there's the foot either distorted at an impossible angle or there's some trash blowing by in front of it.

And didn't someone post that he played another down after this?

It seems there is a paucity of actual facts (vs. interpretations) here. I'll wait to see what action the Pats take.

He did not play another down after this. He went straight out after it.

If you didn't see the game the picture will make more sense if you check out some of the clips of the entire sequence that others have posted.

 

[turkeyneck]

He's going on IR with an Achilles. Book it.

That whatever happened was serious enough to have him carted off, and with the start of the season this close, IR is a foregone conclusion, achilles or otherwise.

 

[luuked]

I can't seem to recall an instance in which a player was injured with what turned out to be an Achilles tear and he didn't immediately go to the ground and stay there.

Honestly as the game was going I assumed as well it was an achilles (or something internal) mostly because the handful of replays we got to see showed no indication whatsoever of anything happening to him. The Pats calling it an ankle injury and that frame someone caught of his foot being twisted are at least something realistic to hope for.

 

[Uptown]

Damn. Damn. Damn