Titans kidnapping Dion Lewis

[Bourne Again Christian]

It’s Cedric Cobbs but point taken.

Their was A sedrick Shaw runningback
And a Harold Shaw

 

[Ring 6]

Funny hearing people who seriously wanted to sit Lewis all season until the playoffs because they were afraid he would get hurt if he played at all bemoaning not giving him a 4 Yr 20 mill contract.
RBs are largely interchangeable in this system. The drop off from one to the next is negligible and not worth overpaying an injury prone player.
Last year Lewis and burkhead spilt up the job with Lewis getting a heavy load of the snaps. Next year we either bring a new guy or 2 in and figure out the mix or burkhead and gillislee split the role that Lewis and burkhead split last year and there will be no appreciable difference.
The only issue will be if the position is decimated by injury which likely has a lot to do with not anchoring the position on Lewis.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

Their was A sedrick Shaw runningback
And a Harold Shaw

I think I remember Sedrick Shaw from the late 90s. Cobbs was mid 2000s. If we’re going that far back for rb help what’s Derrick cullors up to these days?

 

[supafly]

I think I remember Sedrick Shaw from the late 90s. Cobbs was mid 2000s. If we’re going that far back for rb help what’s Derrick cullors up to these days?

Mike Cloud.

FTW.

 

[Bourne Again Christian]

I think I remember Sedrick Shaw from the late 90s. Cobbs was mid 2000s. If we’re going that far back for rb help what’s Derrick cullors up to these days?

JR Redmond
Maybe we can afford Mike Cloud in free agency.
I still remember Clouds big game and I think Chris Berman said I don't want to come back down from Mike Cloud.
Which was a Bush reference.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

JR Redmond
Maybe we can afford Mike Cloud in free agency.
I still remember Clouds big game and I think Chris Berman said I don't want to come back down from Mike Cloud.
Which was a Bush reference.

JR Redmond justified us taking him with 1 play of getting out of bounds on the last drive of super bowl 36.

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

We have no players left!

 

[Soliel]

Is it too soon to start a lewis sucks thread?

 

[maust]

Again, you're confusing numbers with logic. They are not the same thing.
Cap space in March has literally ZERO to do with whether or not they can afford to take a risk of having an injury guy on the field come the start of the season.

And there lies the fly in the ointment, which somehow didn't come through. I am not the least bit confused, although apparently my standpoint was. My argument pertains purely to managing the attendant cap risk that comes with an injury prone player, not the roster spot. My logic was entirely based on cap management. The cap space is what it is. If the Pats were sitting on $60m a $5m risk would be acceptable but they aren't and therefore from my standpoint it isn't. There is no trolling (at least on my part) involved here, just simple math applied to risk management. . Sometimes the numbers are in our favor and sometimes they aren't. It's that simple, sorry if my explanation somehow wasn't. If you want to call that flawed then maybe you could start by telling us how $57m=$17m because that's all the numbers were there to illustrate.

 

[Greg]

4yr/23.5 million with 11 mill guaranteed. Not sad to see him go at that price.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

4yr/23.5 million with 11 mill guaranteed. Not sad to see him go at that price.

Would’ve matched it if not for James white. And even if we did there’s no guarantee Lewis chooses us. He seemed pretty pissed about his limited reps in the super bowl

 

[HailHydra]

Let's think about this with the contract situation.

Lewis is 27 - which means that he'll likely start to see a decline around age 29, if not earlier. The goal of the contract for Lewis is to get his last large payday. The Patriots wanted Lewis for around 2 more years so that they could move on from him as he entered the dead zone of RBs.

Looking at the 11 mill guaranteed tells us that if Lewis were to only stay for 2 years, he would be taking home at least 5.5 mill each year, on top of some additional amounts from the rest of the salary. Lewis at 3 years would be around 3.6 mill, and then the additional salary amount, which turns out to be a reasonable number. The goal is to pay all the necessary money before his regression so they can cut later, and for the Titans, he'll be taking up a very large amount if he plays for 2 years, rather than 3 years.

Hope that makes some kind of sense

 

[Deus Irae]

And there lies the fly in the ointment, which somehow didn't come through. I am not the least bit confused, although apparently my standpoint was. My argument pertains purely to managing the attendant cap risk that comes with an injury prone player, not the roster spot. My logic was entirely based on cap management. The cap space is what it is. If the Pats were sitting on $60m a $5m risk would be acceptable but they aren't and therefore from my standpoint it isn't. There is no trolling (at least on my part) involved here, just simple math applied to risk management. . Sometimes the numbers are in our favor and sometimes they aren't. It's that simple, sorry if my explanation somehow wasn't. If you want to call that flawed then maybe you could start by telling us how $57m=$17m because that's all the numbers were there to illustrate.

Your logic still sucks because you keep confusing a simple number with a logic argument, sorry. There is zero attendant cap risk that comes with an injury prone player.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

Just gonna throw this out there

2018 cap room (before the butler and Lewis signings)

Pats-22 million
Titans-58 million

 

[maust]

Your logic still sucks because you keep confusing a simple number with a logic argument, sorry. There is zero attendant cap risk that comes with an injury prone player.

There are none so blind as those who will not see, except maybe for those that choose to troll.
Have a good night.

 

[Joey007]

Bill is becoming strangely senile in a sense.

Nothing he’s doing is making any sense. It’s the first time I’m starting to wonder if he’s even trying to build the best team possible, or if he’s just f*cking with everyone’s heads at this point.

 

[Deus Irae]

There are none so blind as those who will not see, except maybe for those that choose to troll.
Have a good night.

I'm not trolling, though I suspect you must be, because your position about your claim is ludicrous. I do agree with part of what you wrote here, though:

There are none so blind as those who will not see

Get yourself a mirror, because that applies to you on this.

 

[dafoe2016]

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It’s Cedric Cobbs but point taken.

Edit. Boy do I feel foolish forgetting we did have a Sedrick Shaw back in the day. My apologies

I only remember him because he made Maroney look like Barry Sanders. It was impossible for him to get beyond the LOS. My friends and I used to call him One Yard Sedrick. I had a Curtis Martin poster at the time and under his picture was the word "Unstoppable". My friends and I used to joke that they could make a Shaw poster and at the bottom it would just have the word "stoppable" Man, have we had some awful backs through the years.

Parcells stealing Martin in that sleazy, illegal, backroom deal with the league office was still the most difficult player loss of my life as a Patriots fan.

 

[TheFlyingWedge]

Deep Running back draft this year - quality players will be found in the mid to late rounds.

 

[DaBruinz]

$20 million for 4 years.

What are the guaranteed numbers?