PatsWSB47
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.I find that people referring to Rodgers is that his "physical" attributes are what makes him the "best" player. He is very exciting to watch and as much as Favre was a "gunslinger" and also exciting to watch.
Personally, winning is exciting and if you were building the Frankenstein of QBs, to make the ultimate QB, you would choose Brady's brain as this is what separates him from the rest.
It's just lazy reporting and most media and people have pretty much confirmed Brady is the GOAT. I am at peace and they can be fan boys as much as they want. I've got my QB and that's all I need (well continued OL improvement helps too : )
Since the beginning of 2009, Aaron Rodgers has 281 TD, 61 INT, and a 105.8 passer rating to along with 21 rushing TD.
In that same time frame Brady has 272 TD, 68 INT, and a 100.9 passer rating and 12 rushing TD.
Is it really such a travesty to entertain the idea that Rodgers might be slightly better? (Personally, I would take Brady, but if I put him ahead of Rodgers he's ahead by a hair.)
Since the beginning of 2009, Aaron Rodgers has 281 TD, 61 INT, and a 105.8 passer rating to along with 21 rushing TD.
In that same time frame Brady has 272 TD, 68 INT, and a 100.9 passer rating and 12 rushing TD.
Is it really such a travesty to entertain the idea that Rodgers might be slightly better? (Personally, I would take Brady, but if I put him ahead of Rodgers he's ahead by a hair.)
People are going to be quick to scream "YEAH, BUT WINS!" or "YEAH, BUT SUPER BOWLS!", but Brady has the luxury of the best coach in NFL history. What would their resumes look like if the roles were reversed? (Brady spends his whole career with Mike McCarthey, Rodgers his whole career with Belichick?)
I hate how thin-skinned sports fans are. Go outside and get a breath of fresh air. It's like, at worst, someone thinks Brady is the second-best QB in the league, and it's now perceived as a giant slap in the face. Practically everyone has conceded that Tom Brady is the GOAT at this point. This isn't "disrespectful". Please, have some perspective.
Right. Semantics and I mostly agree, but I see it more like an added bonus if you can scramble well. Though, Brady either developed his pocket presence partly because he can't scramble or because he's just born with it. Either way, it has served him (and us fans) well.Rodgers has holes in his game. So does Brady.
Playoff career:Well, now you've done it. I'm going to have to bag on Rodgers even though I had no intention to do so, I think he's a great player and fun to watch and I'm sorry he's injured, was looking forward to Tom slaying that dragon this year. But...
Once again, I awake to the sounds of the veneration of Aaron Rodgers and lamentations over his being injured. And over and over again, I hear people call him "the best player in the league in the most important position". . . .
When is this ageism going to end? Brady is the best QB in the league, and still was long before Rodgers snapped his clavicle for the 2nd time.
Just a reminder - he's snapped his clavicle more times than he's played in a Super Bowl.
On the day when Brady tops the third most important statistical category giving him the trifecta, I want to hear NOTHING about this pretender other than how his career is basically a great big "if only..." Wouldn't have traded them straight up even before the injury.
Okay, glad I got that off my chest.
What GOAT DEBATE? Rodgers is barely in the top 10.Rodgers is an incredibly gifted QB and easily one of the most talented we've ever seen. His achievements aren't as prolific as Brady is.... but with better coaching and a better system, who knows where he'd be now.
I see no reason to sh*t on Rodgers now... can we end the GOAT debates till he returns at least?
Playoff career:
Rodgers: 17 games, 36 TD, 10 interceptions, 99.4 passer rating
Brady: 34 games, 63 TD, 31 INT, 89.0 passer rating
The narrative that Rodgers doesn't show up in big games is inaccurate.
By the way, you know who also has an amazing win-loss record and has a stellar playoff career? Russell Wilson. I don't know about you, but I don't think that Wilson can sniff Rodgers/Brady's jockstrap. Brady has a better organization/coach than Rodgers does. It's not hard to see how people would factor that into their opinion.
Also, let me again emphasize in my original post that I think Brady is better. Getting upset about someone suggesting Rodgers is better is really insecure. Accept that other people are going to have opinion other than your own. It's not hard to see why someone might give Rodgers the edge. This constant victim playing by Patriots fans is really a bad look.
Playoff career:
Rodgers: 17 games, 36 TD, 10 interceptions, 99.4 passer rating
Brady: 34 games, 63 TD, 31 INT, 89.0 passer rating
The narrative that Rodgers doesn't show up in big games is inaccurate.
By the way, you know who also has an amazing win-loss record and has a stellar playoff career? Russell Wilson. I don't know about you, but I don't think that Wilson can sniff Rodgers/Brady's jockstrap. Brady has a better organization/coach than Rodgers does. It's not hard to see how people would factor that into their opinion.
Also, let me again emphasize in my original post that I think Brady is better. Getting upset about someone suggesting Rodgers is better is really insecure. Accept that other people are going to have opinion other than your own. It's not hard to see why someone might give Rodgers the edge. This constant victim playing by Patriots fans is really a bad look.
And yet earlier in the thread I compared numbers from 2009 forward, when both quarterbacks were playing under the same rules and played in nearly an identical number of games. Rodgers compared favorably.As far as overall stats, much of Brady's career was prior to major rule changes helping offenses and QB's. Rodgers' career began after those rule changes. Plus, the Packers have always invested more in receivers than the Pats have.
So since Rogers doesn't have as good a history as Brady going deep in the playoffs suggest that he might have better stats because the opponents are easier. Actually making it to the next round means the defenses get betterPlayoff career:
Rodgers: 17 games, 36 TD, 10 interceptions, 99.4 passer rating
Brady: 34 games, 63 TD, 31 INT, 89.0 passer rating
The narrative that Rodgers doesn't show up in big games is inaccurate.
By the way, you know who also has an amazing win-loss record and has a stellar playoff career? Russell Wilson. I don't know about you, but I don't think that Wilson can sniff Rodgers/Brady's jockstrap. Brady has a better organization/coach than Rodgers does. It's not hard to see how people would factor that into their opinion.
Also, let me again emphasize in my original post that I think Brady is better. Getting upset about someone suggesting Rodgers is better is really insecure. Accept that other people are going to have opinion other than your own. It's not hard to see why someone might give Rodgers the edge. This constant victim playing by Patriots fans is really a bad look.
And yet earlier in the thread I compared numbers from 2009 forward, when both quarterbacks were playing under the same rules and played in nearly an identical number of games. Rodgers compared favorably.