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Married to a Falcons fan?...by the way, heh..as a lover of the ironical I positively adore being dressed down by someone who, essentially, logs on under the name **** Cheese...this is why I am a huge Patsfans supporter :D:cool:
Lol, yeah Joker, I've been coming here a while, haven't updated my avatar...no, I'm not married to a Falcons fan (not that there's anything wrong with that)...not dressing anyone down, but I remember how crushing those Jints losses were for many Pats fans and I myself don't wanna join in tormenting the Falcons folks. And I don't like the way Pats fans are perceived by people. Again, though, I'm not some moral arbiter here,so, carry on!
 
I live in Manhattan, surrounded by Giants fans. I give and take trash talk with friends who are Giants fans all the time.

When they bring up Tyree and Manningham, I say, "More power to you. If it comes down to one play, the loser can't complain. As Belichick says, Championships come down to who can make a play. Eli, Tyree and Manningham made plays. Asante, Rodney and Welker didn't. No whining here." [Eventually, though, I'll bring the conversation around to Eli and ask, after a beer or two, "Do you ascribe to the theory that Eli might be the only player to play his way OUT of Canton?" Drives 'em nuts. Gotta love it.]

I don't expect Giants fans to worry about "hurting" my feelings, like I don't worry about hurting Falcons' fans feelings (adults' feelings, not kids' feelings). Hightower, Edelman and Brady made plays. Freeman (blown block) and Ryan didn't. End of story. Suck it up.
Over the past 10 years there was no way I was going to have a football discussion with a Giants fan unless I was going to be humble about it. It has changed a lot with 49 and 51 obviously as the Pats got their mojo back, and in style.

If a Giants fan wants to get into it with you its simple. Ask said Giants fan if they can get you a game worn Eli Manning jersey. If they cant, just ask if its ok for you to get a new Eli Manning jersey and rub it in the dirt since its the same thing.
 
Over the past 10 years there was no way I was going to have a football discussion with a Giants fan unless I was going to be humble about it. It has changed a lot with 49 and 51 obviously as the Pats got their mojo back, and in style.

If a Giants fan wants to get into it with you its simple. Ask said Giants fan if they can get you a game worn Eli Manning jersey. If they cant, just ask if its ok for you to get a new Eli Manning jersey and rub it in the dirt since its the same thing.
Barbaric.
 
Barbaric.
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Also, @XLIX stop going around the forum and disliking every one of @Wheelman posts.
They're doing it to each other. It's been going on for like six months. It's great. Scholars have maintained that it will be an occurrence that will stretch to the end of time.
 
ahem...*burp*....uh...no...........

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That play isn't as upsetting now. It wasn't a playoff game and the Patriots have won 2SBs since then. Still, it wasn't that the officials watched that play and didn't throw a flag. One of them threw a flag for PI and then they decided there was no penalty.
 
There are literally hundreds of games you can point to like that. The only game where I can legitimately say that the product on the field might have been fixed by the refs was the Miami/Ohio State national championship from (I believe) 2002 where Ohio State was on Miami's 5 yard line with the clock ticking down. The pass got tipped and was originally ruled incomplete. About 30 seconds later (as Miami was coming onto the field to celebrate), the flag was thrown and called pass interference. Miami went on to lose that game. That was among a litany of other blown calls that went against the Hurricanes in that game. And I am by no means a Miami fan. I hate that team. But they legitimately got jobbed.


You should re-watch the 2006 AFCCG

If there was ever a game to convince me that the league could try to influence the outcome, it would be that one
 
Over the past 10 years there was no way I was going to have a football discussion with a Giants fan unless I was going to be humble about it. It has changed a lot with 49 and 51 obviously as the Pats got their mojo back, and in style.

If a Giants fan wants to get into it with you its simple. Ask said Giants fan if they can get you a game worn Eli Manning jersey. If they cant, just ask if its ok for you to get a new Eli Manning jersey and rub it in the dirt since its the same thing.
Agree 100% on your first paragraph.
The second is something a Jetes fan would say to a Giants fan. We're way beyond that now.
 
Agree 100% on your first paragraph.
The second is something a Jetes fan would say to a Giants fan. We're way beyond that now.

We are way beyond a harmless joke? Actually Eli was stealing from the American people and deserves whatever he gets which wont be much because its , you know, the Giants. If Brady got caught doing what Eli did there would be a lynch mob.

Threatening people, yelling obscenities at other fans at games, starting fights, those are the things we should be "way beyond." Even a "Jets suck" thread seems like something we should be way beyond.
 
I live in Manhattan, surrounded by Giants fans. I give and take trash talk with friends who are Giants fans all the time.

When they bring up Tyree and Manningham, I say, "More power to you. If it comes down to one play, the loser can't complain. As Belichick says, Championships come down to who can make a play. Eli, Tyree and Manningham made plays. Asante, Rodney and Welker didn't. No whining here." [Eventually, though, I'll bring the conversation around to Eli and ask, after a beer or two, "Do you ascribe to the theory that Eli might be the only player to play his way OUT of Canton?" Drives 'em nuts. Gotta love it.]

I don't expect Giants fans to worry about "hurting" my feelings, like I don't worry about hurting Falcons' fans feelings (adults' feelings, not kids' feelings). Hightower, Edelman and Brady made plays. Freeman (blown block) and Ryan didn't. End of story. Suck it up.

I was an AOLe at the time and the Giants fans were some of the most respectful fans that I came across back then. Much better than most.

I ran into a Giants fan in Saugus a couple of weeks after the 07 SB and congratulated him on his team's win. He was surprised at my reaction.
 
I was an AOLe at the time and the Giants fans were some of the most respectful fans that I came across back then. Much better than most.

I ran into a Giants fan in Saugus a couple of weeks after the 07 SB and congratulated him on his team's win. He was surprised at my reaction.
Giants fans and Jets fans are from different planets.
 
We are way beyond a harmless joke? Actually Eli was stealing from the American people and deserves whatever he gets which wont be much because its , you know, the Giants. If Brady got caught doing what Eli did there would be a lynch mob.

Threatening people, yelling obscenities at other fans at games, starting fights, those are the things we should be "way beyond." Even a "Jets suck" thread seems like something we should be way beyond.

I'm not sure where I said anything about a "harmless joke." But, if it can be proven to the satisfaction of a Prosecutor or Grand Jury that Eli did this, then it's Fraud and he could be indicted; if the amount of money can be proven to be large enough, it would be Felony Fraud. I just don't feel the need to bring it up with Giants fans. It has nothing to do with the game on the field.

Eli gives me enough to talk about with his inconsistent play on the field; aside from two stretches of a total of about 12--15 games in a career of over 200 Regular Season and Playoff Games Started he is at best an "Above Average" QB...at best. That's what I stick to when I talk about Eli Manning. The Equipment stuff will play itself out in the legal system.
 
You should re-watch the 2006 AFCCG

If there was ever a game to convince me that the league could try to influence the outcome, it would be that one
I would if I didn't see that call get made in the form of PI in most games I watched. "He never got his head turned toward the ball". The difference is that they called it face guarding, which hadn't been a penalty in some time. If anyone put the fix in against the Pats in that contest, it was Eric Alexander.
 
I'm not sure where I said anything about a "harmless joke." But, if it can be proven to the satisfaction of a Prosecutor or Grand Jury that Eli did this, then it's Fraud and he could be indicted; if the amount of money can be proven to be large enough, it would be Felony Fraud. I just don't feel the need to bring it up with Giants fans. It has nothing to do with the game on the field.

Let's not forget how connected the corrupt Manning family is. I highly doubt any of that happens.
 
If you're gonna say this type of crap, you can't whine when the Jints fans say it.

I guess my point boils down to good sportsmanship and respecting the other fans, especially the ATL fans who got their hearts ripped out, by not taunting their hurt feelings afterwards; as Pats fans we've been through things quite similar and we should know better.

I don't know what your team is, Richard. But I have that conversation regarding both Gintz SBs, regarding camera-placement-gate, and most recently regarding the world's most blatant witch-hunt, defamegate.

I went to physical therapy, wore a Patriots jersey, and had the young lady in reception tell me how "they're cheaters." First I asked her if she could define the terms in PV=nRT. I then patiently explained to her alllll about cold wet footballs, gauges that were out of calibration and flip-flopped via footnote in the Wells report, and a raft of other ****, because I just wasn't in the mood. And that's with a team that, at the time, had just won ANOTHER Super Bowl.

Boo freaking hoo. The Pats lose the best TE in the league, maybe in history, and we're expected to have Marty Bennett or somebody of that caliber to fill it in. Any other team...? "Oh yeah of course you beat us, with our star running back out."

The Pats come within a minute of what was generally agreed would never happen - a 19-0 season - and it's really funny because we lost the big one.

Next time I went to PT, had the same jersey on. Yes I washed it in between. Same young lady said "they're still cheaters."

To get this next part you have to understand something about the PT I was doing. There are these things called nerve glides, and one looks just like a cop holding out his hand, palm-first, to command you to stop (in traffic).

I did that and said "Talk to the glide."

So yeah, tell me all about fuggin good sportsmanship. I don't have anything personal against Falcons fans, they just couldn't rise all the way up. By saying this I do not mean to imply that this is a general condition for Falcons fans, particularly in the bedroom.

By saying that their tears taste sweet I certainly do not intend that any given Falcons fan should weep more of them, although I do not mind. I hurt pretty bad - inexplicably, since I don't play for the Pats - after that helmet-catch SB.

There's a difference between "How would you feel if..." and "How did you feel when..."

So when I say, Hey Falcons fans, show us on the doll where the Patriots hurt you, you'll need to take into account for the cycle of abuse. We're subject to "Bad sportsmanship" when we're the greatest dynasty in the history of the league. I never saw a single analyst on the various NFL* networks, on bulletin boards, or anywhere else, saying "oh my that's bad sportsmanship."

I doubt when I say "we" that includes you, Mr. GoodSport. Otherwise you'd get this history. But maybe you just want to be the most agreeable fanbase in the universe.

I see no problem with subjecting the Falcons fanbase to such things, over on a Patriots board, when any Falcons fans here are crashing the party.

They deserve to have that 28-3 comeback hanging over them. If their team rises to the challenge, they've done one-fifth of what the Patriots have done in the last 15 years. If they can't, they're a mentally weak team to match their mentally crushed fanbase.

I thank GOD that when the Patriots are down -- and we have been down, especially during those roughly 1/2 of Super Bowls that the Patriots did not play in since 2001 -- our team never SAYS "rise up." They say "get to work."

Get to work, Atlanta. You've collected the talent. Do you have a team?

We do.

Otherwise, show us on the doll where the Patriots hurt you.
 
I would if I didn't see that call get made in the form of PI in most games I watched. "He never got his head turned toward the ball". The difference is that they called it face guarding, which hadn't been a penalty in some time. If anyone put the fix in against the Pats in that contest, it was Eric Alexander.

There was no contact to call P.I..

It was a blatant mistake/robbery
 


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