Matt Chatham slams Roger Goodell over Ray Rice in Time magazine editorial

[QuantumMechanic]

Chatham got an editorial in Time, slamming Goodell for his handling of the Ray Rice situation:

http://time.com/3614623/roger-goodell-ray-rice-scandal/

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Chatham on point as usual. He'd love our Goody bashing threads here.

 

[dales804]

Good points in that article. The guy needs to go. Less and less people take him seriously every day. The NFL will be fine without Goodell.

 

[Gronkandez]

Goodell is just a puppet. He gets paid $44M to take the heat. People should be slamming the owners.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Of course we should be slamming the owners. I find it unbelievable that they could not find a more capable executive than Goodell. His big accomplishments, the TV contract & CBA had heavy assist from Kraft and presumably other capable owners. What is/was his specific value add that can't be done by some other professional? With the 2 overturns of his edicts (New Orleans and Rice) his public image and street cred with the players' association has to be dog meat.
He must have photos of Kraft with Hitler or something.

 

[Fencer]

Goodell is just a puppet. He gets paid $44M to take the heat. People should be slamming the owners.

Oversimplified.

Goodell was right to try to change how the NFL handled its misbehaving players. He just made a botch of the whole effort. So with respect to that issue he's a failed hire by the owners, not a successful hire doing bad and stupid things at their direction.

 

[Deus Irae]

Goodell is just a puppet. He gets paid $44M to take the heat. People should be slamming the owners.

Tags v. Goodell sums it all up. One can understand that the commissioner is largely a pawn of the owners while still seeing differences among the commissioners as significant enough to grade.

 

[Sicilian]

It's true that the owners deserve some blame, in the same way that McDaniels deserves some blame when the offense stalls. He calls the plays, but Brady has the autonomy to check out of them. I doubt Goodell calls each owner and does a quick poll every time he makes a decision. The really big stuff, sure, day to day decisions (including the player discipline decisions) are left up to him. If the owners start to lose confidence in his ability to mete those out appropriately, it will only be their fault if they fail to replace him.

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

The Problem (for me) (with the exception of most player fines) is that the level of punishment/fines seems to have a higher correlation to public outrage than it does to a standard set of rules, sense or even the extent of the issue.

This is clearly the case with the Ray Rice incident because they initially handed him a 2 game suspension and then when the video was released (and there was a massive up-swell of hate directed at RR from the public), then they sat down to further review the punishment (with weak and unbelievable excuses as to what was different).

 

[Jackson 2]

I think at the heart of the matter is Goodell's lost credibility. Disagreements over policy decisions, discipline, rule changes, etc. are all accepted and expected elements of the commissioner's role. Once it became apparent that Goodell lied and then compounded the problem by lying again, his goose was cooked. His effectiveness is gone forever, in my opinion.

 

[Mack Herron]

 

[Joker]

Gee whiz golly....I ,for one, would have never guessed there'd be any dissatisfaction with the exemplary leadership displayed by our precious Goody over this period of his wonderfully even handed and just administration.

If only SB39 were here to educate us poor slobs on the beneficence of "Fearless Leaderdell"...

 

[lurker1965]

Goodell is just a puppet. He gets paid $44M to take the heat. People should be slamming the owners.

Part of the job description of $44 million dollar puppet is to take the fall. If a coach has problems should we blame the owner or call for his firing?

 

[1960Pats]

I think at the heart of the matter is Goodell's lost credibility. Disagreements over policy decisions, discipline, rule changes, etc. are all accepted and expected elements of the commissioner's role. Once it became apparent that Goodell lied and then compounded the problem by lying again, his goose was cooked. His effectiveness is gone forever, in my opinion.

Correct. The irony is that Goodless uses the lying to him as a reason for more serious punishment when players or coaches are forced to go grovel at his feet. Now he's lying to try and save his own ass. The fact that he's using a player and his wife to deflect blame shows his true lack of character.

He can go into hiding like he has and everyone in the NFL can think the problems are going to go away, but I'm not so sure. This guy really does suck. You can tell he's a former Jets employee.

 

[OhExaulted1]

 

[Kontradiction]

Gee whiz golly....I ,for one, would have never guessed there'd be any dissatisfaction with the exemplary leadership displayed by our precious Goody over this period of his wonderfully even handed and just administration.

If only SB39 were here to educate us poor slobs on the beneficence of "Fearless Leaderdell"...

Speaking of, where has TPPB been?

 

[primetime]

Of course we should be slamming the owners. I find it unbelievable that they could not find a more capable executive than Goodell.

I think you're assuming that Goodell isn't doing his job. In fact, he's doing his job perfectly. He implements the ****ty policies of franchise owners and then takes the heat for them. It's terrible for the players, fans, and public... but great for printing money.

 

[primetime]

Tags v. Goodell sums it all up. One can understand that the commissioner is largely a pawn of the owners while still seeing differences among the commissioners as significant enough to grade.

I think a substantial part of that is defined by the era they were commissioners in, rather than their jobs as managers for the ownership. Tagliabue came in and managed the NFL prior to its effective monopoly of the professional sports scene, meaning ownership had to be (slightly) more gentle since it was competing for advertiser and public attention. Nowadays, they can just run roughshod over everyone - Goodell is just the public face of that.

 

[SalemPats]

I'm shocked that Goodell still has his job as the commish.

 

[Deus Irae]

I think a substantial part of that is defined by the era they were commissioners in, rather than their jobs as managers for the ownership. Tagliabue came in and managed the NFL prior to its effective monopoly of the professional sports scene, meaning ownership had to be (slightly) more gentle since it was competing for advertiser and public attention. Nowadays, they can just run roughshod over everyone - Goodell is just the public face of that.

The penalties against both the Patriots and Saints disagree with you.