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meatface

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You are a better man than I am.

I still hold a grudge. I have blackness in my heart for a whole host of characters, from Goodell to Vincent to Grigson all the way down to that vaginal drool Brunell.

With malice to them all. May their arseholes all fall out.
I honestly just want our fanbase to move beyond this victim mentality where we need to get butt hurt over everything. I was just as pissed as anyone about Ballghazi and I still do not like how Goodell and the NFL owners run this league but can we just enjoy football without complaining over every little perceived slight? Lets save it for actual issues and not when ESPN has us second in the power rankings or some beat writer from the who cares times says Brady is a cheater.
 

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I honestly just want our fanbase to move beyond this victim mentality where we need to get butt hurt over everything. I was just as pissed as anyone about Ballghazi and I still do not like how Goodell and the NFL owners run this league but can we just enjoy football without complaining over every little perceived slight? Lets save it for actual issues and not when ESPN has us second in the power rankings or some beat writer from the who cares times says Brady is a cheater.
It's good that you differentiate between serious, genuine screwings, such as that perpetrated upon us by Goodell/NFL office, and perceived slights. There is absolutely no question that some here actively hunt for any and every little negative item written or uttered by anyone, anywhere. And when those items are found, they're presented here as capital crimes.
 

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I honestly just want our fanbase to move beyond this victim mentality where we need to get butt hurt over everything. I was just as pissed as anyone about Ballghazi and I still do not like how Goodell and the NFL owners run this league but can we just enjoy football without complaining over every little perceived slight? Lets save it for actual issues and not when ESPN has us second in the power rankings or some beat writer from the who cares times says Brady is a cheater.



After Goodell's dishonest behavior there is no reason to be civil to him.

HE hasn't apologized AFAIK.

He lied and slandered Brady. We are fans/customers of the league. We should express our dissatisfaction which the poor service by the CEO.
 

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WTF even is this?? I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone attempting to read that. Is it possible that the NFL seriously hired PR people to get out and send a message of "forgiveness" for Goodell the night before his clown-towels are about to be distributed en masse? Do they really think they can win over the hearts and minds of fans who have been waiting for this day for months (years, even), with a post like THAT?
 

robertweathers

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Because I have no doubt Goody is a sinister, evil human being, I stand by what I want his fate to be..

Fired, embarrassed, divorced, kids hate him, penniless, eating food out of a trash can and dies alone.
 

meatface

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After Goodell's dishonest behavior there is no reason to be civil to him.

HE hasn't apologized AFAIK.

He lied and slandered Brady. We are fans/customers of the league. We should express our dissatisfaction which the poor service by the CEO.
I am not saying that we should forgive Goodell or Ownership, **** those guys.
 

robertweathers

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WTF even is this?? I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone attempting to read that. Is it possible that the NFL seriously hired PR people to get out and send a message of "forgiveness" for Goodell the night before his clown-towels are about to be distributed en masse? Do they really think they can win over the hearts and minds of fans who have been waiting for this day for months (years, even), with a post like THAT?
Are you referring to the charity work he did in Brighton today where he coordinated the live shots and photo ops?

Disgusting.
 

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#10 - THE SERIES FINALE OF DEFLATEGATE

[With Roger Goodell returning to New England on Thursday night for the opening game of the NFL season, a repost from February was certainly in order]

I hold no grudge against Roger Goodell. If a man acts according to his heart and his principals, and does so with the best of intentions, while I may choose to disagree with him, that does not make him a bad person. No, I hold no grudge

A little over two years ago, just before the New England Patriots sealed the fourth Super Bowl victory in a decade and a half with a stunning interception, by an undrafted, unheard of, hard-working rookie, the story of deflated footballs, made its way onto the national scene. What ensued was nothing short of a debacle for the reputation of the National Football League, the New England Patriots, Quarterback Tom Brady and for Commissioner Roger Goodell. Unbelievably, an incredibly minor event/infraction (the choice of words correlates directly to one’s love or hatred of the Patriots) almost made its way to the US Supreme Court.

Roger took the position that a major wrong had occurred, and it was his responsibility to uphold the honor of the "badge" of the NFL. Without action on his part, he believed the issue could become a stain on integrity of the league, and because the collective bargaining agreement signed with the players union several years earlier gave him the power to act like God, he was going to use all that power. So the matter had made its all the way up to the 2nd US Circuit Court of Appeals and the dust had cleared, Roger's punishment, forced down upon the Patriots from above, had been affirmed. The Patriots had been fined $1 million, they had been docked their first and fourth round draft picks, and Tom Brady's suspension would run for the first four games of the 2016 season.

Brady's what? Sorry, say that again, I don't think I heard what you said. Brady's what?

There was no legal standard upon which Brady's suspension was based (unless you consider "not provably crazy" a standard). There was no proof that Brady was involved in or knew about the deflating of footballs, there wasn't any proof that the footballs were even deflated (see ideal gas law), but Roger suspended Tom because "he generally should have been aware" and because Roger had his god-like powers bestowed upon him by the collective bargaining agreement and because Rodger believed that the best way to protect the badge was to showcase all that power. Unfortunately Roger, as well intentioned as he may have been, lost sight of a perspective which really good men, really good leaders understand at their core that with great power, comes great responsibility. For the country the debate centered around PSI readings, for New England the question was now all about abuse of power.

I doubt the country appreciates why we hold the New England Patriot organization in such high esteem. It’s understandable, you have to live here a while to know. It may sound silly, but it actually begins with the name. We are not the Boston Patriots or the Massachusetts Patriots. We are New England, six of the original thirteen colonies, who were there in the beginning, who actively participated into the birth of our nation. So when we speak of New England and when we speak of the New England Patriots, we are including the small towns in Maine, the farms in Vermont, the shipping ports in Fall River and New Bedford, the high-tech start-ups in Cambridge and the Ivy League schools in Dartmouth, Providence and New Haven. All of these are built on the common foundation of hard work and good ol' Yankee Ingenuity. There is a humility that flows through the region. We are not flashy, showy. We are not big and bold or ostentatious. We are not New York City or Los Angeles or Chicago. Boston, the biggest city in the six states only has a population of 650,000. And the six states remain among the smallest in our country.

We never say it, in some ways to say it would go against our humility, but we believe it. We believe our team represents our core values. And we have placed those values in the capable hands of Coach Bill Belichick to hold and to nourish. It is a sacred responsibility. More importantly we expect him to show the rest of our country that there is a better way. Do your job, do your job well, play for the man next to you, we’ve had a good week of preparation, we’ve studied the film. Play as a team. One game at a time. Coaches don't win games, players do. (Humility starts at the top). Coaches put players in a position to win. Situational Football (that's code for "play smart"). We are on to Cincinnati! No days off, No days off.

The Dallas Cowboys, the self-proclaimed (and self-centered) America's team had five first team All-Pro Player on their roster. They lost in their first and only playoff game. And they have only two playoff game wins in the last 20 years. The Atlanta Falcons, our opponents in this year's Super Bowl had three first team All-Pro Players on their roster including Matt Ryan, the league’s Most Valuable Player. The New England Patriots had one first team All Pro-Player on their roster, and he was a special team player. I didn’t even know that special teams’ players could be voted All Pro.

For the Patriots, it’s been the same for all of their Super Bowl wins. Reminiscent of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid asking the question of the skilled trackers who follow their trail at the end of the movie, many so-called experts in the league ask the question, with the same shock and amazement….. Who are these guys!? Well, they are a bunch of middle round draft picks, undrafted rookies, and old veterans who care less about the money who want to learn how to win again. They may not be the fastest or the strongest or the youngest, but they are some of the smartest and they buy into the system. And only the ones with the biggest hearts make the cut each year.

So when Brady was suspended for the first four games of the 2016 season by Commissioner Goodell, it was almost as if a terrorist had set off a dirty nuke right in the middle of South Station during rush hour (and I say that with only a hint of exaggeration). The shock waves emanated out and were felt in all six states. It ripped at our very fiber. Roger had the audacity to go after one of our own, one of our offspring. He had attacked New England's favorite son. And like any good parent, the message to outsiders was - you can come after us if you want, but don't come after our sons or daughters. When you do that, it’s no longer business, you have made it personal, and this we do not forgive.

So in the third game of the season and the third of Tom's four game suspension, when a rookie third string quarterback was leading the team to a shutout victory over the Houston Texans and with Coach Belichick and his players were focused on the plays in the field, the parents in the stands were chanting "Roger Roger, Roger". It was still very early in a sixteen game regular season, with the playoffs to follow, but the message was clear - we are coming Roger, we are coming for you. You couldn’t blame them, for them it was now personal.

Brady returned for the fifth game of the season and did, well what Tom always did, he played like the leader he has always been, winning all his games but one, throwing 28 TD passes against a measly two interceptions, a new league record. The sports pages said he was 39+ years old, but many deemed this to be just another urban myth as he seemed to be getting both better and younger along the way.

All throughout the season Brady deflected all the questions about Deflategate and the commissioner. His focus was on the next game, the next challenge, being motivated for his teammates. He would always say that was all the motivation he needed. It was always the same reply, repeated patiently. The words flowed like silk, and we dutifully followed his lead. We get it Tom, wink, smile, nod, we are going to be patient, we are going to wait until the moment comes, when Roger goes to hand you the trophy for MVP of Super Bowl 51. And then, and then you are going to level him with both barrels. You are going to blow him off his feet. Justice will be served. Yes, Tom, if you can wait, we can wait with you.

The playoffs came and as usual, the Patriots had different game plans for each team, and won in different ways. This was Yankee Ingenuity on steroids. They played ugly against the Houston Texans and while the team behaved as if they had lost the game, they had beaten Texas by 18 points. Then came the high-flying Pittsburg Steeler offense. Everyone knew the Hoodie would have a game plan to shut down the opponent’s best weapons and another Patriot player would step up big. This time it was a lacrosse player who only played one year of footbal in college who set a new Patriot post season record for most passing yards in a playoff game. Two weeks later, the Pats were in the Super Bowl, and in uncharacteristic fashion, both the offensive and defensive units played poorly past the halfway point of the third quarter. A look at the scoreboard showed the Falcons were ahead 28 - 3. No team in the 50 year history of the Super Bowl had ever come back from more than 10 points down and won the game, and the Patriots were now down 25 points. For all of New England, the pain was almost too much to bear. For most of the rest of the country, it was a time to celebrate. But the Patriots began to do what they always do, taking it one play at a time, scratching and clawing their way back in to relevance. And they had Tom Brady, who began to get in to a rhythm. The O-Line started to give him the pocket of protection he needed, and Tom could see the field, and this time, the Patriot’s third sting halfback was the next man to step up. James White caught the ball 14 times, had three touchdowns and a two point conversion and Tom set the field afire, setting a Super Bowl record for passes attempted, passes completed and total yards. He had almost 200 yards in Q4 alone and when the Patriots had won the coin toss to begin the overtime period, you could see the smile on Tom’s face. The game was now over. The Atlantic Falcons would not see the field again, The Patriots had scored 31unaswered points in a highly improbable comeback. And the confetti fell from the sky.

But a funny thing happened on the way to the trophy presentations, all of sudden, it didn’t seem to matter. In the presentation of the Lombardi Trophy after the game, Tom celebrated with his teammates and family, and shook hands with Roger and accepted his congratulations. And he celebrated with the fans. The following morning, the moment when Roger was going to hand the Super Bowl MVP trophy to Tom, a moment everyone in New England had waited and wished and hoped for, for over a year, it had become crystal clear. Overnight, the moment had lost its value. It was now irrelevant. Tom accepted the trophy and praised his team. In New England, no matter how much things change, they always remain the same.

The day after the team's fifth Super Bowl victory in the new millennium, Coach Belichick put the final nail in the coffin of Deflategate, and he did it in typical Belichickian style. He expressed genuine dismay at the concept that Tom Brady was more motivated this year (because of Deflategate). simply because it inferred that he was less motivated and less hard working in any one of his prior 16 years in the league, and that was just was insulting to his quarterback. The Hoodie always has a way of looking at the world through a different lens. But for those who have listened to him over the years, we know that all of his messaging is consistent and on point. The message here was clear and simple, forget all this Deflategate crap. We are on to 2017. For added emphasis, when he spoke at a press conference the day after the team’s big Super Bowl win, he told the audience that "yesterday'" was nice, but we have to remember we are already five weeks behind most of the other teams in the league (in preparing for 2017). And he said it with a straight face.

It's true, we admit it. Up here in New England, we love the Hoodie.

Once again, our coach and our quarterback had led us all back from the brink. They reminded us who we were. They reminded us there was a better way. And they had been doing it all season long.

While some around the country have referred to the 2016 NFL season as the Tom Brady Revenge Tour or the Tom Brady Redemption Tour, it was neither of these. If you have to give it a name, it would more appropriately be called the New England Validation Tour, validation of our coach and our favorite son, validation of our team, and validation of our own core values.

I hold no grudge against Roger Goodell.

With Malice Toward None, With Charity For All (...mostly)
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I'm just relaying facts AJ

Can you explain how holding onto anger toward another can help you?

Better yet, can you explain how you can get back at someone by holding onto anger?

I'll be waiting

Also, try googling "Holding on to resentment"

http://www.wildmind.org/blogs/quote-of-the-month/ann-landers-resentment
Pretty funny that you arguing that you know how something affects me and I don't. Better yet you call it a fact.
The internet is very, very odd place with very, very odd characters.
 

Jackson 2

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Because I have no doubt Goody is a sinister, evil human being, I stand by what I want his fate to be..

Fired, embarrassed, divorced, kids hate him, penniless, eating food out of a trash can and dies alone.
There is nothing bad that could happen to Goodell, barring a family tragedy, which would not be justly deserved. Nothing.
 

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WTF even is this?? I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone attempting to read that. Is it possible that the NFL seriously hired PR people to get out and send a message of "forgiveness" for Goodell the night before his clown-towels are about to be distributed en masse? Do they really think they can win over the hearts and minds of fans who have been waiting for this day for months (years, even), with a post like THAT?

 

Pessimistic Pete

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The fact that people think any of this was his "choice" is silly. Truth be told, I bet he wishes he could of done nothing as it put him in an ugly position with a close friend.

Robert Kraft knows this too, why the hell do you think they are still buddy/buddy? He knew none of this was up to Roger.

He did what the awful owners told him to do.

I hate guys like John Mara, Harbaugh, Grigson, etc. 1000x more than Goodell. These are people who actively wanted to destroy the Patriots. John Mara is really the de-facto commissioner of the league if you ask me, the amount of **** the Giants get away with is disgusting.

Goodel is simply the figurehead whose salary depends on following the orders of the idiots. And it's working, you're all directing hate towards him instead of the people who really deserve it.

What do I think of Roger? I really don't think about him. He's a pre-programmed robot that is the personification of the morons running the league. Less than 5% of anything that man has ever said in front of microphone was actually genuine self-expression. He is a walking press release. He doesn't hate the Patriots, but a majority of the league does.

That being said, I'm all for the boo'ing/etc. on opening night. Since you can't really rage against each individual moron owner, Roger, as the figurehead of the league fits the bill and it's what he's paid to do.
 
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The fact that people think any of this was his "choice" is silly. Truth be told, I bet he wishes he could of done nothing as it put him in an ugly position with a close friend.

Robert Kraft knows this too, why the hell do you think they are still buddy/buddy? He knew none of this was up to Roger.

He did what the awful owners told him to do.

I hate guys like John Mara, Harbaugh, Grigson, etc. 1000x more than Goodell. These are people who actively wanted to destroy the Patriots. John Mara is really the de-facto commissioner of the league if you ask me, the amount of **** the Giants get away with is disgusting.

Goodel is simply the figurehead whose salary depends on following the orders of the idiots. And it's working, you're all directing hate towards him instead of the people who really deserve it.

What do I think of Roger? I really don't think about him. He's a pre-programmed robot that is the personification of the morons running the league. He is a walking press release. He doesn't hate the Patriots, but a majority of the league does.

That being said, I'm all for the boo'ing/etc. on opening night. Since you can't really rage against each individual moron owner, Roger, as the figurehead of the league fits the bill and it's what he's paid to do.

I agree. But "they" put Roger in front of me. Roger willingly took that position. I will fire at any appropriate target in my sights.
 

Pessimistic Pete

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I agree. But "they" put Roger in front of me. Roger willingly took that position. I will fire at any appropriate target in my sights.

Totally agree, whenever he's in public, he should get booed and if I was at opening night I'd be booing as loud as anyone.

Just differentiating that I don't actually have a problem with him as a person, I have a problem with the people he represents.
 

PatriotsReign

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Nonsense

That's right up there with "Talk it out, and you'll feel better" at 10s on the ******** scale.
It's a truth no one is exempt from.

The funny part is that what I've been saying is both widely known and accepted
 

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Totally agree, whenever he's in public, he should get booed and if I was at opening night I'd be booing as loud as anyone.

Just differentiating that I don't actually have a problem with him as a person, I have a problem with the people he represents.
A man with common sense
 
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But I enjoy hating Roger. It brings me happiness.

Seriously though, I understand your premise but I am not consumed by my anger. It doesn't rule my life. I'm a genuinely happy and optimistic guy.

I do hate Roger and all that he stands for. He is a reflection of all the power hungry narcissists in this country that are ****ting all over the blue collar working family except with Roger he's doing it while standing in front of my most enjoyable distraction.

The idiot can't even keep it within the realm of Football. No. He has to screw up DV policies which have far reaching consequences. He has to screw up a stupid air pressure battle that resulted in hurting blue collar "law of the shop" workers, and has screwed up the concussion issue to the point of informing mothers that it would be ok to send their kids back into a football game even if they sustained a concussion during that game.

Those are not just football issues. They are real life issues in which he has focused on the all mighty $$'s while ****ting all over the average family. You could argue that his concussion policies had life threatening consequences for football playing kids across the country.

The guy is a piece of **** and hate him and anyone like him.

Anyone who thoroughly followed deflategate has lost confidence in the purity of the Supreme Court. An "honorable" judge with an Amicus brief sitting on his desk stating that the science behind deflategate was bogus and signed by 20+ Doctors of Science, somehow came up with the conclusion of "Compelling if not overwhelming". That's some scary ****.

I have my own laws. I respect anyone from anywhere. I enjoy meeting people and learning about their life's journey. But those who feel they are above someone because of the size of their wallet or an IQ number can simply kiss my ass. I have no time for that BS. Those who take that condescend to an abusive level such as Roger has needs to get smacked one way or another.
Hahahahaha!!! We are SO much alike!

Hey, I know I said it's wrong to hold onto a grudge, but I didn't say it's easy to let them go

The last SB pretty much took care of my grudge. But like you, one of the things that really disturbs me are people that think they're special and/or above "common folk"
 

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Totally agree, whenever he's in public, he should get booed and if I was at opening night I'd be booing as loud as anyone.

Just differentiating that I don't actually have a problem with him as a person, I have a problem with the people he represents.
If you know what the job entails then you are what you are. He's a royal POS...as a person. Hey we owners are going to pay you a ****load of money to lie, cheat and steal from the players and our fans including lying about concussions and anything else we can goddamn think of. Yeah that's a guy not to have a problem with.....
 
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