"... he'd ..." as in "he HAD been working through some injuries (since mid-2009) that HAD been slowing him down...."
I apologize if the phrasing was unclear, but "HAD", in my understanding of the English language, indicates PAST TENSE, not necessarily ongoing. And my statement (as a person without an emotional axe to grind against Moss would read it) is FACT.
We are talking about the past. And it was in direct response to how he was playing in 2010. Why would I assume that you are talking about a previous injury that you realize has nothing to do with 2010 when the top was 2010 play?
Back in 2007 Brady wasnt as mobile as normal because he had been dealing with an ankle injury since an early round playoff game.
Perhaps understanding that your statement was unclear and clarifying would be a better than trying to create some flaw in me that isn't there.
I have absolutely zero axe to grind with Moss emotional or otherwise. Feel free to document any comments I have made that aren't directly related to what he did on the football field.
I did not state that he was (as in, "still was") working through those injuries, OR that they had slowed him down for over a year. What I actually wrote does not contradict my subsequent statement that none of can know what his health status was during his time with the Titans or what is is now.
If you weren't using it to excuse, or explain 2010, then why bring it up in response to a direct statement about 2010 production in Tenn. You basically said Yeah, but, he had been dealing with an injury since 2009.
I did at no time "blame" his poor play in TEN on any hypothetical injury, nor was I ever even slightly "making excuses" for it. You are completely mis-representing what I wrote.
Your response to his poor 2010 in Tenn was to bring up an injury. Use whatever semantics you want, I choose excuse, you may choose factor, explanation, reason, etc but its still the same thing.
Once again if it wasn't being used to temper his performance in Tenn why did you bring it up directly in response to it?
To be clear to all, I am not "pro-Moss" or (as you so obviously are) "anti-Moss". To list the possible factors in his poor performance in TEN, not as an "excuse", but as a dispassionate examination:
I am not anti Moss in the least, unless you think that concliuding his skills have eroded qualifies as 'anti'. I like the guy. I loved the player when he could play, I have no use for the player now that he can't.
- his health (which no one really knows)
- his age
- his attitude (which we can't know for certain)
- the Titans own coaching and QB issues
This is what I mean by making excuses. For the sfirst time you added age, which I assume indicates erosion of skill. He went out on the field to play, and was totally horrendous. Without adding age/decline you are grasping at fabricated reasons to avoid the obcious fact that his skills eroded.
Also, to be clear to all, I loathe arguments like this, but when I'm attacked personally and/or willfully mis-represented in a public forum, I will defend myself. However, something I loathe even more is having to spend the time to do so when there are so many other, more pleasant places to play.
You weren't attacked. You responded to his play in Tenn with a bunch of factors other than his play and ability.
Somehow that upset you, but it wasn't an attack. I will note that you were the first (and only) of us to reduce it to personal slurs.
I have simply responded with my feelings on your opinion, you have, numerous times now, tried to slam ME rather than respond to my viewpoint, so if you loathe 'these kind of arguments' avoiding that is a good first step.
