The Predator

I didn't avoid the topic whatsoever. In fact, retard, my point is very strong. While VY may be having some growing pains getting used to the league as it his 2nd year, he has a good team supporting him and helping win games. 6-2 is an excellent record.

You are tring to set an expectation of a 2nd year QB to be a Hall of Famer or something. The guy obviously is a great talent and has won some huge games on his raw skill. Just because he isn't a superstar right not doesn't matter. If the Titans are 6-2 (not 0-8) and Young has struggled, the Titans are in a good position for making a playoff shot. Theoretically Young will get better with more and more game play.

Maybe you do not know this, but it takes a team to win a SB, a TEAM. This is easily demonstrated with recent events. Tom Brady was no superstar when he took over for Bledsoe. He was smart and didn't make mistakes. The TEAM came around him and supported him. Brady responded and led them to a championship. Take Brady or the team away and neither wins.

Trent Dilfer won a SB and was no great QB. His TEAM was great. Same with Brad Johnson.

Ben Rothlisburger has the worst SB QB rating in history, yet his team played well, supported him, and he did enough to win.

Do you need more? For some reason, Miami thinks if they find the next Marino then the will win the SB. This is a foolish idea. It takes a full team. While it is a comfort to have a Hall of Fame QB like Brady, there are other ways to win championships. It is a team game, and something you will never understand.S

So you retard, shut up.

PatsWickedPissah

Actually, you're wrong about the Phins record.

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The Predator

oh ya, lost a barn burner to the bills 47-46. ok, maybe it was a snoozer 13-10.

The Predator

Hey Fish Idiot. Can't debate facts can you.

Aqua4Ever04

First off, have you ever heard the term, politically correct? Calling me retarded doesn't enhance your argument; it just makes you look stupid and discredits your position.

If you think the Titans are winning because of Vince Young, you have no idea what you're talking about and there's no point debating that issue. It is what it is; Vince Young is terrible.

I haven't seen him progress at all but rather regress. Combine his INTs and fumbles and it nearly equals 40. That's double the games he has played in his career which means he is turning it over or giving the opportunity for a turnover 2 times per game.

Yeah, no kidding it takes a team, what do you think is carrying Young to a 6-3 record? HIS TEAM! Stop trying to give credit to a QB when he hasn't done a damn thing and his defense is making all these mainstream media outlets lead morons like you to believe it's all because of VY. Watch him play, watch him turn the ball over, watch him miss open receivers, then try to judge him. Evaluating a QB by his team's record is the biggest misconception in the NFL.

If a QB was judged by wins and losses, why is Rex Grossman now a backup just 8 months after he was in a Super Bowl?

All you're doing is proving my point. I think Vince sucks and the Titans are winning inspite of him.

I noticed you continue to tell me to shut up, call me retard, and various other attempts to attack me but again, you've just discredited your already extremely weak argument.

patriotspride

excellent post .you have owned aqua as usual.

The Predator

Whoaaaaaaaaaa excuse you??? You start the insults in this thread and tell me to shut up, but can't take it when it gets turned in your face? Wow, what a sorry ass losing retard you are. Oh no, i discredited myself in front on the most idiotic poster behind NEM. My image pains me so.

Where the heck did I say that the Titans are winning becasue of Young? Can you even read retard? When did I give Young credit? Try reading what I posted instead of making things up as you usually do. Try looking at the TEAM concept I explained.

Now let me address your lack of football knowledge. Who is Vince Young? The Titans drafted him to be their QB of the future. He is a second year QB. He has been fighting injuries this year. He has excellent raw skill in arm strength, fairly good accuracy, and speed.

I am going to state this again because you seem to reaaly be slow at getting it. Young is a second year QB!!!! How many 2nd year QBs rip up the league??? He is not a HOFfer, yet any coach in the league, ANY COACH IN THE LEAGUE, ALL 32 COACHES IN THE LEAGUE, WOULD TAKE HIM OVER ANY QB THE DOOFINS HAVE ON THEIR ROSTER. BANK ON IT RETARD.

Lol about your Rex theory. Why did Rex get pulled? Not because of his win loss record. That is such an idiotic idea. Rex got pulled because he was given every chance to succeed over a period of years, didn't show consistency, and started losing games. Young is in his second freaking year. The Rex project is over. The Bears will move on after this season. It isn't even closein comparison. Rex was never drafted as the #1 Round pick franchise QB.

It is so ironic that an idiot fan of a 0-9 team says someone else sucks.

patriotspride

never i mean never ever talk football with aqua .its a total waste of time .

Aqua4Ever04

Well you were arguing against me and my point is that Young is the worst starting QB in the NFL so what else would you be *****ing about?

NO **** IT'S A TEAM CONCEPT? WHAT DO YOU THINK I'M ARGUING?

If you think Vince Young has good accuracy you are the worst talent evaluator of all time. All Vince does is look at his #1 receiver and if he's not wide open he takes off. Recently, he has learned that can't always work and since he has no idea how to check down or go through progressions he usually makes the wrong decision or forces the pass and that's why he has so many picks.

Okay, he's a 2nd year QB, but he's terrible. Jay Cutler looks light years ahead of Vince, Trent Edwards looks better then Vince. If you put any of these youngsters on that Tennessee team, they are no worse then 6-3 either.

Tommysgirl

"Do you need more? For some reason, Miami thinks if they find the next Marino then the will win the SB. This is a foolish idea. It takes a full team. While it is a comfort to have a Hall of Fame QB like Brady, there are other ways to win championships. It is a team game, and something you will never understand."


Actually, they couldn't win one with the real Marino, either. Why would a new one change things?