archstanton543
In the Starting Line-Up
Blind loyalty isn't a virtue either.People like you who doubt Belichick never understood what they were watching in the first place.
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Blind loyalty isn't a virtue either.People like you who doubt Belichick never understood what they were watching in the first place.
See what Heinicke did.
That’s what Zappe gives you.
That scrappiness the smart plays not making big mistakes and keeping your poise and wits.
Blind loyalty isn't a virtue either.
Funny, you just described Mac. Those are the reasons many saw him as a 2nd round QB.Heinicke will win some games but never go anywhere. If Zappe is like Heinicke than that is not a positive. You can pitch it as "scrapiness" or "poise and wits" but overall Heinicke lacks the arm talent and athleticism to be a top QB. That is not hating on Zappe.
Funny, you just described Mac. Those are the reasons many saw him as a 2nd round QB.
Sure it is. If I'm like the 99.9% people on this board who understand a fraction of a fraction of a scintilla of what Belichick is doing, then the best bet for appreciating what Belichick is doing is: blind loyalty.Blind loyalty isn't a virtue either.
Mac is Heinicke? Scrappy?
Mac does not have the strongest arm, but Heinicke and Msc are two different players.
lacks the arm talent and athleticism to be a top QB.
It's not blind loyalty. Bill is not perfect. However, he is closer to it than most people. It's not blind loyalty, it's faith in his talent and abilities.Blind loyalty isn't a virtue either.
I laugh every time you post this.
You really look around the NFL and think, if only that guy were coaching us?
Really now, after every thing you've seen?
Belichick is a God. You better venerate him because anyone else would be much worse.
Earlier this year people were mentioning McVay. That guy couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag.
You can think he is a great coach and have faith in his abilities and still disagree with some of his decisions. Agreeing with everything he does because he is a great coach is just blind loyalty.It's not blind loyalty. Bill is not perfect. However, he is closer to it than most people. It's not blind loyalty, it's faith in his talent and abilities.
....and many saw him as the 3rd pick in the draft. You can't have it both ways.Funny, you just described Mac. Those are the reasons many saw him as a 2nd round QB.
I'll let @BaconGrundleCandy comment on that one since I'm not a draft nerd.....and many saw him as the 3rd pick in the draft. You can't have it both ways.
That's the thing about drafting nerds, they all have opinions. Some good ones and some bad ones. Among the imperfect sciences, it is the king. I am always stunned by the wide ranges players get from the draft sites, which is compounded by the wide variances of success and failure by the teams themselves. Now BCG is among the best imo, but.....I'll let @BaconGrundleCandy comment on that one since I'm not a draft nerd.
Don't believe it. Thinking Mac is a better choice is not hating on Zappe.
I know of absolutely nobody who agrees with everything he does.Agreeing with everything he does because he is a great coach is just blind loyalty.
Who here is doing that?You can think he is a great coach and have faith in his abilities and still disagree with some of his decisions. Agreeing with everything he does because he is a great coach is just blind loyalty.
Indeed it isn't... It's just wrong.
Great point.Tua has gone from a abject failure to MVP candidate inside of 9 games. Christ it took Justin Fields only 3 games to go from zero to hero. So today HE's the best QB from the 21 rookie class and Mac is the worst.
Right. It's smart to trust him.But it is safe to acknowledge, even as Bill enters his dotage, he's making a lot more correct decisions than wrong ones.
Yup, I was wrong about dealing Jim and starting Grogan, and since then I've been infallible.Unfortunately this goes against the narrative that those amongst us who haven't been wrong about anything that has to do with football since the Carter Administration would like you to believe.![]()
Heinicke ran 4.62 with a 6.96 3cone and a respectable 35" Vert. Dude's very athletic for a QB. We'll see how it goes, but I don't see him turning out to be a top QB, either. If he had more experience, especially with that crew in DC (McLaurin, Dotson, Samuel), who knows?Heinicke will win some games but never go anywhere. If Zappe is like Heinicke than that is not a positive. You can pitch it as "scrapiness" or "poise and wits" but overall Heinicke lacks the arm talent and athleticism to be a top QB. That is not hating on Zappe.
....and many saw him as the 3rd pick in the draft. You can't have it both ways.
Most had him in the 5th-udfa range. Although he "peaked" around 55 consensus board had him at 163.I'll let @BaconGrundleCandy comment on that one since I'm not a draft nerd.