* Ye Olde 2013 Mock Draft Thread!! *

[Avenger]

Wouldn't work for multiple reasons. The main one is probably that the Chargers would have almost $8M in dead money from trading Weddle.

I didn't consider the cap hit, I knew it wouldn't happen anyways. Meriweather wasn't a complete bust, but I'm bummed the Weddle was the next S chosen.

 

[manxman2601]

It's gone very quiet in these parts, time for a new mock.

This is by no means an optimal mock nor is it by any means my preferred mock which still centres around J Cooper, Carradine or Ansah, Jordan Reed, Markus Wheaton/Stedman Bailey and LaMarcus Joyner. However, this mock is aimed to achieve a few things. Firstly, it addresses situational needs as optimally and realistically as possible. I've assessed these needs purely around obvious shortcomings in the way the team has played and largely ignores long-term roster building as a need. Secondly, I've gone with seniors as my preferred mock is junior heavy, thirdly, I've ignored all those in my current mock for the sake of interest and finally, there's no trade trickery here, I've just used the picks we currently have. So onwards...


Round One

Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor




In my preferred mock, I have Stedman Bailey or alternatively Markus Wheaton as my WR preference. I see both as ideal fits for our system. Terrance Williams too is a really nice fit. He has the speed to gain seperation and the wiggle and burst to gain YAC. He can be used equally effectively in the deep ball game or being used in a WR screen. I like Brandon Lloyd but his inability to gain separation or YAC have been exposed. Williams fills that hole and as I said in another thread, the early success of Kendall Wright and Josh Gordon suggests that Williams' transition to the NFL might not be too difficult.


Round Two

Khaseem Greene, LB, Rutgers



This years Lavonte David? Greene is a playmaker on the Rutgers defense and has the makings of a turnover machine. We have a desperate need for a LB that can cover. Mayo is our best coverage LB and to be quite frank, he's pretty bad at it. We have taken someone from Rutgers the last two years and if Greene continues with this:

(Khaseem Greene) had 14 tackles, 1.5 tackles for loss, forced three fumbles and had an interception in 17th-ranked Rutgers' 23-15 victory over Syracuse last Saturday.

BB might look kindly on Rutgers again.


Round Three

Justin Pugh, OL, Syracuse



Pugh is an extremely athletic lineman who I believe could stick at LT in the NFL. However, his quick feet and the ease with which he gets to the second level means, I believe, that he could be an effective guard too. Yes he's a little undersized, but not drastically so, only 10-15 lbs lighter than most of our current interior linemen.

Round Four

Cornelius Washington




Our new friend Mackenzie doesn't like him but I'm going to go with Sciz on this one. This pick is all about situational pass rush. It would be nice to get a dominating full time LDE but Ninkovich and Cunningham actually do a nice job on most downs. However, in passing situations, bringing Washington in solely to get after the QB and switching Cunningham and/or Chandler Jones inside will help take a lot of pressure off our secondary. Cornelius Washington has top quality athleticism and in a limited role could be extremely effective.


Round Seven

Rontez Miles, S, California (PA)



One of my favourite prospects, Malcolm Bronson should be available in this area of the draft but he's currently injured for the season so there are question marks about his suitability to be drafted. Miles is a favourite of Mackenzie's (and having no doubt disappointed him with the Washington pick I need to make amends ) and he plays similarly to Bronson based on admittedly limited viewing. For me, one of the most important traits for a safety is good instincts and from what little I've seen of Miles, he has those, at least in the run game.


This won't be everyone's favourite mock, heck it isn't even mine, but it addresses some key deficiencies on the team. What it does is address our offensive passing game and upgrades our pass defense without having to draft yet more high round secondary bodies and for that reason, I recommend it.

 

[Merril Hoge's Tie Knot]

Very nice effort on the mock. Still not fully on the Jordan bandwagon but Jordan, Elam, ANSAH, Rogers would be a very nice mock. Bit concerned about the lack of a top notch interior offensive lineman but there's always next year I suppose.

Have you watched Jordan? Honest question because we usually have similar opinions on prospects. You really can't get a good look at him on Youtube because of Oregon's substitute friendly defense and Jordan's versatility.

On the lineman, you don't really have to draft them high to find studs. It's more about the players anyway. York is a 3rd round value, Long the tackle is a 4th, Foltz is a fifth with a high upside, and Clanton is not slouch either. He's probably a 7th round value.

 

[Merril Hoge's Tie Knot]

It's gone very quiet in these parts, time for a new mock.

Great job, Manx. You got Washington's supports wrong though! It was I that brought him to the prospect thread and said he'd be a good sub-rusher. Then Mayo said he didn't like him and Mackenzie agreed with me that he was a good sub-rusher.

 

[manxman2601]

Have you watched Jordan? Honest question because we usually have similar opinions on prospects. You really can't get a good look at him on Youtube because of Oregon's substitute friendly defense and Jordan's versatility.

On the lineman, you don't really have to draft them high to find studs. It's more about the players anyway. York is a 3rd round value, Long the tackle is a 4th, Foltz is a fifth with a high upside, and Clanton is not slouch either. He's probably a 7th round value.

I have watched Jordan and I admire his play and recognise what you and Mayo see in him and in no way would I be disappointed with the pick. It's just a heart/hunch thing - it just doesn't grab me in the same way Barron did or Cooper/Ansah does.

As for linemen, it may be true that stud linemen can be drafted later - the same applies to all positions. But Patriot stud linemen are drafted in the first two rounds (Solder-Light-vollmer-Mankins).

 

[nekromantique]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luxusdk

Ed Reed is good, but i think i would take Byrd cause of the age. Both are huge ballhawks. Reed got few years left compared to Byrd. Plus i doubt Reed leaves Ravens. The cornerback you talk about wont be FA before next year right?

No, he'll be franchised I'd think. BB absolutely loves Ed Reed. I'm sure you're right, I doubt he'd play for another team, most likely will retire if they don't try to re-sign him. But if the Ravens decide to move on and Ed Reed is ready to play a little longer....? I suspect, unless the money is ridiculous, BB would move heaven and earth to sign him. Imagine the boost of leadership our secondary would get.

Edit: Actually I think you are right and that Revis' contract is up at end of 2013-14 season. My bad.

Rodgers-Cromartie is a free agent though the pats probably wouldn't look at him...


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[Avenger]

1st Round:
T.J. McDonald, S, USC

Impact safety with a nose for the ball, son of 13 year NFL safety Tim McDonald. He is in his 3rd season starting for the Trojans, he has 163 tackles, including 5.5 for losses, and 6 interceptions in his career. He has 23 career starts.

2nd Round:
Cornellius Carradine, DE, Florida State

Versatile defensive end who can play either side, excellent pass rusher, he is extremely quick off the ball and has a knack for getting to the quarterback. Tough to block in passing situations has improved in the run game.

3rd Round:
Cobi Hamilton, WR, Arkansas

Hamilton entered the 2012 season with 85 receptions for 1,519 yards and 13 touchdowns in 39 games with 18 starts. He already has 46 receptions for 754 yards and 4 TDs on the season, at 6'-3", 209 lbs he has the size to be dominant on the outside. He was a teamate of QB Ryan Mallet in both college and high school.

4th Round:
Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB, Connecticut

Big, fast, physical CB. Given the state of the Patriots secondary Wreh-Wilson should be able to come in and make an impact. He was voted team captain for a second year in a row, a trait that BB likes to target in the draft.

7th Round:
Ray Ray Armstrong, S, formerly of Miami

At this stage in the draft Armstrong would be a great value pick, even after not playing the 2012 season. Has potential to improve the safety position.

UDFA:
Derek Mayo, LB, Richmond


Kyle Long, OT, Oregon


Dan McCarthy, S, Notre Dame


Luke Tasker, WR, Cornell


Baker Steinkuhler, DT, Nebraska

 

[mayoclinic]

Rodgers-Cromartie is a free agent though the pats probably wouldn't look at him...

Why not? Personally, I think it would make sense. As has been discussed on the main board, Pat Chung seems too much of a liability in coverage, Kyle Arrington seems to have hit a wall, and Devin McCourty seems to play better in zone and with the ball in front of him. I think it makes sense to let Chung and possibly Arrington move on, move McCourty to FS and pair him with Tavon Wilson and put Steve Gregory in a backup rotational role and give Nate Ebner time to develop, and pair Ras-I Dowling at outside CB with another big CB able to play man coverage, with Alfonzo Dennard as the star/slot CB. Rodgers-Cromartie has some weaknesses to his game, to be sure, but he'd be a reasonable option in that scenario. Another guy I'm intrigued with is Aqib Talib, in spite of all his off field issues - I even suggested possibly trading Chung for Talib prior to the trade deadline, which wouldn't be much of a risk given that both are in contract years. If Talib doesn't work out the Pats could make a run at DRC. The money it would take to re-sign Chung and/or Arrington would probably suffice to sign someone like Talib or DRC. It would also free the Pats up to not have to focus on drafting for an immediate contributor for the secondary, though a developmental DB could be an option.

So I'm going to assume that scenario for the moment, and go with the following mock revision:

Season/Offseason

- Pats trade S Pat Chung for CB Aqib Talib (Atlanta)
- Pats re-sign UFA Aqib Talib or sign UFA CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (Philadelphia)
- Pats let UFA CB Kyle Arrington walk (and UFA S Pat Chung if not already traded)
- Pats re-sign UFA DT Myron Pryor and UFA RB Danny Woodhead; UFA DT Ron Brace walks
- Pats franchise/re-sign Wes Welker; Julian Edelman probably walks
- Pats sign UFA OT Sebastian Vollmer to a long term extension

Draft

I'm assuming the Pats get 5th and 6th round comp picks

*** Trade: New England trades #32 and 64 (860 points) to Cincinnati for # 40, 50 and 82 (880 points).

40. Johnathan Cooper, OG, North Carolina. 6'3" 310. Currently NFL DraftScout #35.



Beast!I have a hard time believing Cooper will last this long, but guards tend to slip a bit. David DeCastro was touted as a likely top 15 pick, and Amini Siliatolu was conisdered a possible late 1st round pick. Cooper has great movement skills and the ability to get the 2nd level, which makes him stand out as a fit for the Pats.

50. Ezekiel "Ziggy" Ansah, DE, BYU. 6'6" 270#. Currently NFL DraftScout #153.



Sleeper Super Beast! A Brother Manx find, Ansah is still raw but has almost unlimited upside. Athletically he is roughly what you would get if Dr. Frankenstein created a fusion of JJ Watt, Jason Pierre-Paul and Dion Jordan. 39" vertical, 10.9 100M and 20.9 200M. Long arms. Great core strength, stunning verticity for a guy his size. Basketball, soccer and track and field background. High character, high motor, smart kid with good processing speed. Fast learner. Not yet terribly instinctive, but developing quickly.

Dane Brugler of CBS Sports writes:

Every year there are a few players that are totally off the map who are able to find playing time as seniors and grab the attention of NFL scouts. BYU hybrid linebacker Ezekiel Ansah fits that description as a virtual unknown a few months ago, but is now shooting up draft boards as we find out more about the disruptive defender. Originally a track athlete at BYU, he decided to try football so he went to the Cougars' coaching staff in 2010 and worked his way onto the team. Ansah, who was born and raised in Ghana, entered the 2012 season with just 10 career tackles on his resume, but earned a starting job as a senior and hasn't disappointed. Against Utah State last Friday, he set career-bests with 3.0 tackles for loss and 2.0 sacks, pushing his season totals to 27 total tackles, 9.5 tackles for loss, 3.0 sacks and three pass break-ups. Listed at 6-6 and 270 pounds, Ansah is a freakish athlete with an outstanding blend of length, speed and natural power. He plays all over the front-seven for BYU, lining up with his hand in the dirt at defensive end or standing up at linebacker and dropping into coverage. Ansah has a flexible, fluid body type and is an effortless mover, exploding in any direction and chasing down the ballcarrier. He is obviously very raw having so little experience playing the sport, but already he has showed improved recognition skills and hand use. Ansah is just scratching the surface on what he can do and, like Jason Pierre Paul a few years back, NFL scouts are wondering just how high his ceiling can be. Don't be surprised if Ansah continues to produce, tests off the charts in pre-draft work outs and ends up as a top-50 draft pick.

NFL Draft Risers and Fallers - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

Mike Mayock predicts that Ansah could go in the 1st round, but for now I have him as a top 40 pick. He would be a beast opposite Chandler Jones. If Ansah is gone, the Pats could go with SMU DE Margus Hunt.

83. Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia. 5'9" 174". Current NFL Draftscout #49.



Stud Greyhound! It's evident that the Pats' offense needs more of a speed threat at WR. Austin would be a Percy Harvin/DeSean Jackson kind of weapon for the Pats: a dynamic speedster who can get separation and accelerate on a dime and take it to the house at any time. Guys like Austin and Jeff Demps could be dynamic weapons in the Pats' up-tempo offense, especially given the blocking TEs and the power running game to balance things out. If defenses go big to try and stop the TEs and the running game then the Pats can shred them with speed.

After the West Virginia-Texas game Bucky Brooks wrote:

Teams searching for a Percy Harvin clone will love Austin. The 5-foot-9, 174-pound jitterbug is lightning in a bottle in the open field. Whether he was catching bubble screens on the perimeter or running slant routes over the middle, Austin was nearly impossible to contain when he touched the ball. He possesses rare stop-start quickness, and his ability to reach top speed in a hurry allows him to routinely outrun defenders to the corner of the end zone. He's also one of the most electrifying return men I've seen in recent memory.

West Virginia's Geno Smith shows poise of NFL quarterback - NFL.com

This pick is a bit of a stretch based on NFL DraftScout's current rankings. It is based on the assumptions that Austin could slip a bit based on his size and the perception that he might be limited in the number of touches he gets. An alternative would be Brother Manx's binkie, Tennessee Tech WR Da'Rick Rodgers (#76 overall on NFL DraftScout's current board), who has more size but less pure speed, or someone like Aaron Dobson of Marshal (#80).

96. Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma. 6'7" 303#. Current NFL DraftScout rank #157.



Sleeper Stud Horse! Johnson sounds like someone perfectly made for Dante's Dancing Academy: he played quarterback in high school and junior college before being moved to TE at Oklahoma, then to DE, and then to RT in 2011 before moving him to LT this year. Chad Reuter calls him "a potential NFL starter with supreme athleticism and a frame that offers plenty of growth potential." He was dominant against Texas in both the run and pass game, overpowering Texas DE Jackson Jeffcoat.

With experience at RT and LT, Johnson would be a terrific swing tackle behind Solder and Vollmer assuming that the Pats retain Vollmer beyond this year, and he has the frame to bulk up and make a dominant RT if Vollmer leaves, or is hobbled by his hack injury. Johnson would also allow Marcus Cannon to possibly move to RG down the road, addressing the interior OL need as well.

Though currently ranked #157 by Draftscout, Tony Pauline has already projected Johnson as a top 100 pick for the 2013 draft.

Michigan's Taylor Lewan highlights NFL risers, sliders for Week 7 - Tony Pauline - SI.com

4th. Chris Gragg, TE/H-Back, Arkansas. 6'3" 236#. Currently NFL DraftScout #150.



Sleeper Stud Horse! Gragg is Arkansas' leading receiver so far this year despite missing 3 games due to a bone bruise, which should keep his draft stock down and make him a relative bargain. A "move TE", he would provide backup insurance to Aaron Hernandez and would also create even more mismatch headaches when the two are used together. Gregg is deceptively fast, has good hands, and knows how to find the open seams in a defense.

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[mayoclinic]

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5th. Dontae Johnson*, CB/FS, North Carolina St. 6'3" 190#.



Sleeper! Johnson played FS for the last year, but was moved to boundary CB this year opposite David Amerson. He is big, physical, tough, fast, smart, versatile and has good ball skills. He's not as fast as Richard Sherman, but brings a somewhat similar raw skill set.

If Johnson doesn't declare, alternatives might be someone like Blidi Wreh-Wilson of Connecticut or MIcah Hyde of Iowa.

6th. Brandon Moore*, DT, Texas. 6'5" 335#.



Super Sleeper! Moore was recruited to Alabama by Nick Saban, but suspended in March 2011 for an undisclosed violation of team rules. He subsequently transferred to before transferring to Texas this year to reunited with his for DL coach . A starter at the 3 technique for the Longhorns. Moore has been a disruptive presence with 7 TFL so far. He has great size at 6'5" 335#, very little body fat, and good movement skills. He's a work in progress, but there's a lot of upside, and this late in the draft it's worth the risk.

7th. Kyle Long, OT, Oregon. 6'7" 311#. Currently NR by NFL DraftScout.



Sleeper Super Beast! Another candidate for Dante's Dancing Academy, Kyle Long is not as developed as Lane Johnson but just as athletically gifted. The son of HOFer Howie Long, who describes Kyle as "the best athlete in the family", and brother of former 2008 #2 pick Chris Long. Started as a pitcher for Florida St., dropped out because of academic and alcohol issues, got his act together and switched to football. In his first year at Oregon but has no remaining NCAA eligibility. A huge kid who plays with a mean streak, with outstanding core strength and athleticism.

Long has petitioned for another year of NCAA eligibility and is waiting to hear, but as of right now, he will be in the 2013 draft. Gil Brandt predicts that he will be drafted:

J.J. Watt, Jared Allen, Jake Long among NFL's best linemen - NFL.com

If Johnathan Cooper and Lane Johnson are also drafted, then Long might be a candidate for the PS or for the Foxboro Flu and IR while he develops.

The 2013 Roster:

That offseason and draft would leave the Pats with an extremely preliminary 2013 roster looking something like this:

Offense (27):

QB(2): TBrady, RMallett
RB(5): SRidley, BBolden, DWoodhead, SVereen, JDemps
WR(5): WWelker, BLLloyd, TAustin/DRodgers, GSalas, MSlater
TE(5): RGronkowski, AHernandez, DFells, GBallard, CGragg
OT(4): NSolder, SVollmer, MCannon, LJohnson; KLong to IR or PS unless someone is injured
OG/C(6): LMankins, JCooper, DConnolly, NMcDonald, RWendell, DThomas

Defense (26):

DT(5): VWilfork, KLove, MPryor, BDeaderick, BMoore
DE (6): CJones, ZAnsah, JCunningham, JBequette, TScott, JFrancis
LB(6): JMayo, DHightower, BSpikes, RNinkovich, DFletcher, RCarpenter/DTarpinian
S(4): DMcCourty, TWilson, SGregory, NEbner
CB(5): ATalib/DRodgers-Cromartie, RDowling, ADennard, SMoore, DJohnson

Special Teams (3):

K: Gostkowski
P: Mesko
LS: Aiken

That's 56 players, which is a decent starting point. I think you could make a pretty good final roster out of that group.

 

[Snake Eyes]

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5th. Dontae Johnson*, CB/FS, North Carolina St. 6'3" 190#.



Sleeper! Johnson played FS for the last year, but was moved to boundary CB this year opposite David Amerson. He is big, physical, tough, fast, smart, versatile and has good ball skills. He's not as fast as Richard Sherman, but brings a somewhat similar raw skill set.

If Johnson doesn't declare, alternatives might be someone like Blidi Wreh-Wilson of Connecticut or MIcah Hyde of Iowa.

6th. Brandon Moore*, DT, Texas. 6'5" 335#.



Super Sleeper! Moore was recruited to Alabama by Nick Saban, but suspended in March 2011 for an undisclosed violation of team rules. He subsequently transferred to before transferring to Texas this year to reunited with his for DL coach . A starter at the 3 technique for the Longhorns. Moore has been a disruptive presence with 7 TFL so far. He has great size at 6'5" 335#, very little body fat, and good movement skills. He's a work in progress, but there's a lot of upside, and this late in the draft it's worth the risk.

7th. Kyle Long, OT, Oregon. 6'7" 311#. Currently NR by NFL DraftScout.



Sleeper Super Beast! Another candidate for Dante's Dancing Academy, Kyle Long is not as developed as Lane Johnson but just as athletically gifted. The son of HOFer Howie Long, who describes Kyle as "the best athlete in the family", and brother of former 2008 #2 pick Chris Long. Started as a pitcher for Florida St., dropped out because of academic and alcohol issues, got his act together and switched to football. In his first year at Oregon but has no remaining NCAA eligibility. A huge kid who plays with a mean streak, with outstanding core strength and athleticism.

Long has petitioned for another year of NCAA eligibility and is waiting to hear, but as of right now, he will be in the 2013 draft. Gil Brandt predicts that he will be drafted:

J.J. Watt, Jared Allen, Jake Long among NFL's best linemen - NFL.com

If Johnathan Cooper and Lane Johnson are also drafted, then Long might be a candidate for the PS or for the Foxboro Flu and IR while he develops.

The 2013 Roster:

That offseason and draft would leave the Pats with an extremely preliminary 2013 roster looking something like this:

Offense (27):

QB(2): TBrady, RMallett
RB(5): SRidley, BBolden, DWoodhead, SVereen, JDemps
WR(5): WWelker, BLLloyd, TAustin/DRodgers, GSalas, MSlater
TE(5): RGronkowski, AHernandez, DFells, GBallard, CGragg
OT(4): NSolder, SVollmer, MCannon, LJohnson; KLong to IR or PS unless someone is injured
OG/C(6): LMankins, JCooper, DConnolly, NMcDonald, RWendell, DThomas

Defense (26):

DT(5): VWilfork, KLove, MPryor, BDeaderick, BMoore
DE (6): CJones, ZAnsah, JCunningham, JBequette, TScott, JFrancis
LB(6): JMayo, DHightower, BSpikes, RNinkovich, DFletcher, RCarpenter/DTarpinian
S(4): DMcCourty, TWilson, SGregory, NEbner
CB(5): ATalib/DRodgers-Cromartie, RDowling, ADennard, SMoore, DJohnson

Special Teams (3):

K: Gostkowski
P: Mesko
LS: Aiken

That's 56 players, which is a decent starting point. I think you could make a pretty good final roster out of that group.

MAGNIFICENT effort, Brother Mayo!

What are your thoughts on Kyle Prater at this point? I loved the clips of him that I've seen, if we could get him later on, which seems like a possibility, it would free up some of those receiver picks for Michael Williams and AJ McCarron, who I deeply covet.

Also, after Mackenzie's write up on David Bass I remain very intrigued, do you think he'd be a late round/undrafted possibility?

 

[ATippett56]

NFL Draft - 2013 NFL Draft Prospects - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

Updated collegiate defensive end rankings:

Jordan - 29th overall

Carradine - 44th overall

Ansah - 77th overall

 

[mayoclinic]

NFL Draft - 2013 NFL Draft Prospects - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

Updated collegiate defensive end rankings:

Jordan - 29th overall

Carradine - 44th overall

Ansah - 77th overall

Interesting that they now have Ansah rated ahead of Margus Hunt.

In my current mock I have the Pats trading back and taking Ansah at 50. Carradine, Ansah and Hunt would all be available or within range there, and I think there's a good chance we could get at least 1 of the 3 in that range next April.

My general blueprint for the Pats:

- Franchise/extend Welker
- Extend Vollmer
- Move McCourty to safety to team with Wilson, with Gregory backing up
- Sign a veteran CB to team with Dowling and Dennard
- Draft a stud LDE to go opposite Chandler Jones, a stud interior lineman, and a speedy WR who can put more pressure on defenses

The rest is depth and development. Though a long term successor to VW would be nice, and if the right guy were available I would consider it.

 

[Luxusdk]

Not sure i woudl keep Welker - Tag him would be to much and if we going after Tavon Austin as you mocked Mayo, i wouldn't keep WW then. Same spot less $ there could be used otherwise.

There are some nice OL guys, not talking about Volmer ( still resign him! ), who might be worth it. We talked about it, 2-3 corners there could upgrade us alot and we should have the money to get atleast one of them. Corners as i see it gonna be a bigger need then safetys, but ofcause i would sign Reed if he wants.


My mock is something like:
2a) LDE - Ziggy > Carradine > Hunt ( i think ) - But not sure getting Ziggy in bottom of 1 round would be worth it vs a Carradine in top 2 round where we traded back and picked up a 3.

2b) WR - Gonna use the next 2 round here - Getting Cordarrelle Patterson, might use a pick to move up to get him.

3a) FS - Tyrann Mathieu would be my pick. I know this is a ricky pick, but i'll do it. Reward might be the next Ed Reed, yes thats how i see him ( high risk/reward pick )

3b) WR/TE - Since i'm not resigning Welker i'm gonna need a new slot. Tavon Austin would be the best option, else i would pick Jordan Reed.

4) Might be used to get up again in round 2.

Comp picks ( 5 and 6 )

5) Always someone who falls for some random reason ( bpa )

6) Kyle Long else Baker Steinkuhler, both have good size and upside.

7) OL or DL depends on 6.

 

[mayoclinic]

Not sure i woudl keep Welker - Tag him would be to much and if we going after Tavon Austin as you mocked Mayo, i wouldn't keep WW then. Same spot less $ there could be used otherwise.

There are some nice OL guys, not talking about Volmer ( still resign him! ), who might be worth it. We talked about it, 2-3 corners there could upgrade us alot and we should have the money to get atleast one of them. Corners as i see it gonna be a bigger need then safetys, but ofcause i would sign Reed if he wants.


My mock is something like:
2a) LDE - Ziggy > Carradine > Hunt ( i think ) - But not sure getting Ziggy in bottom of 1 round would be worth it vs a Carradine in top 2 round where we traded back and picked up a 3.

2b) WR - Gonna use the next 2 round here - Getting Cordarrelle Patterson, might use a pick to move up to get him.

3a) FS - Tyrann Mathieu would be my pick. I know this is a ricky pick, but i'll do it. Reward might be the next Ed Reed, yes thats how i see him ( high risk/reward pick )

3b) WR/TE - Since i'm not resigning Welker i'm gonna need a new slot. Tavon Austin would be the best option, else i would pick Jordan Reed.

4) Might be used to get up again in round 2.

Comp picks ( 5 and 6 )

5) Always someone who falls for some random reason ( bpa )

6) Kyle Long else Baker Steinkuhler, both have good size and upside.

7) OL or DL depends on 6.

Last I hard Tyrann Mathieu was in drug rehab and not playing for anyone. It's pretty questionable as to whether he'll come out in 2013. It makes more sense for him to clean up his act and then try to rehab his draft stock next year. But he's off my board for now until I can get a better read on him. Huge skills, but huge risk.

 

[Luxusdk]

Although the football field is off-limits, the classroom is not. Herb Vincent, LSU associate athletic director and associate vice-chancellor for university relations, confirmed Tyrann Mathieu enrolled at the school, one day before the deadline.

Sounds like he's back from rehab and i honestly can't see why he shouldn't go into this draft.

Think he got everything to win and nothing to loose by going into this years draft, its not like scouts missing films and stuff on him.

 

[manxman2601]

NFL Draft - 2013 NFL Draft Prospects - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

Updated collegiate defensive end rankings:

Jordan - 29th overall

Carradine - 44th overall

Ansah - 77th overall

I have no idea why CBS have such a blind spot on the two Stanford TE's (Ertz, Toilolo), neither of which appear in these rankings.

 

[manxman2601]

Interesting that they now have Ansah rated ahead of Margus Hunt.

In my current mock I have the Pats trading back and taking Ansah at 50. Carradine, Ansah and Hunt would all be available or within range there, and I think there's a good chance we could get at least 1 of the 3 in that range next April.

My general blueprint for the Pats:

- Franchise/extend Welker
- Extend Vollmer
- Move McCourty to safety to team with Wilson, with Gregory backing up
- Sign a veteran CB to team with Dowling and Dennard
- Draft a stud LDE to go opposite Chandler Jones, a stud interior lineman, and a speedy WR who can put more pressure on defenses

The rest is depth and development. Though a long term successor to VW would be nice, and if the right guy were available I would consider it.

I almost agree with this plan 100%. The only way I'd differ is that I'd consider leaving McCourty at CB and sign the veteran FA safety - probably better bang for the buck.

I'm also becoming less convinced that BB sees the same need at LDE as we do with Cunningham, Ninko and Bequette all able to fill the role. I still have Ansah and Carradine as two of my top three prospects however.

 

[Merril Hoge's Tie Knot]

What are your thoughts on Kyle Prater at this point?

Forget about him. He gets like 2-3 snaps a game. He's not going to declare.

 

[Big-T]

Version #2!

Key Free Agent additions: Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie & Osi Umenyiora

Trades:
32 & 64 to Cincinnati for 40, 50 & 82
40 to San Fran for 67, 86 and 104 (500 v 489)
94 to Washington for 114, 128 & 178 (124 v 130.2)

50 (2). Matt Elam - S - Florida - 5'10" - 202LBS
Previous pick: Cornellius Carradine - DE - Florida State - 6'4" 265lbs

67 (3). Robert Lester - S - Alabama - 6'2" - 212lbs
Previous pick: N/A

82 (3). Ezekiel Ansah - DE - BYU - 6'5" - 270lbs
Previous pick: Khaled Holmes - C - USC - 6'3" 305lbs

86 (3). Khaled Holmes - C - USC - 6'3" 305lbs
Previous pick: N/A

104 (4). Josh Boyd - DT - Mississippi State - 6'3" - 300lbs
Previous pick: N/A

114 (4). Marcus Davis - WR - Virginia Tech - 6'4" - 232lbs
Previous pick: N/A

128 (4). Seantrel Henderson - OT - Miami (Fla) - 6'8" - 340lbs
Previous pick: Rodney Smith - WR - Florida State - 6'5" 219lbs

178 (6). D.C. Jefferson - TE - Rutgers - 6'5" - 250lbs
Previous pick: N/A

233 (7). Braden Hansen - OG - BYU - 6'5" - 308lbs
Previous pick: Caleb Sturgis - K - Florida - 5'10" 185lbs

 

[mayoclinic]

Version #2!

Key Free Agent additions: Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie & Osi Umenyiora

Trades:
32 & 64 to Cincinnati for 40, 50 & 82
40 to San Fran for 67, 86 and 104 (500 v 489)
94 to Washington for 114, 128 & 178 (124 v 130.2)

50 (2). Matt Elam - S - Florida - 5'10" - 202LBS
Previous pick: Cornellius Carradine - DE - Florida State - 6'4" 265lbs

67 (3). Robert Lester - S - Alabama - 6'2" - 212lbs
Previous pick: N/A

82 (3). Ezekiel Ansah - DE - BYU - 6'5" - 270lbs
Previous pick: Khaled Holmes - C - USC - 6'3" 305lbs

86 (3). Khaled Holmes - C - USC - 6'3" 305lbs
Previous pick: N/A

104 (4). Josh Boyd - DT - Mississippi State - 6'3" - 300lbs
Previous pick: N/A

114 (4). Marcus Davis - WR - Virginia Tech - 6'4" - 232lbs
Previous pick: N/A

128 (4). Seantrel Henderson - OT - Miami (Fla) - 6'8" - 340lbs
Previous pick: Rodney Smith - WR - Florida State - 6'5" 219lbs

178 (6). D.C. Jefferson - TE - Rutgers - 6'5" - 250lbs
Previous pick: N/A

233 (7). Braden Hansen - OG - BYU - 6'5" - 308lbs
Previous pick: Caleb Sturgis - K - Florida - 5'10" 185lbs

Yes to DRC. No to Umenyiora. Ansah won't last to 82. Holmes at 86 is a nice pick. I don't see 2 rookie safeties with our 1st 2 picks. I like Elam better than Lester, but probably not as high as 50.