Wtf happened with Brissett deal?

[Coolade2]

Did we just come close to using irsay,a man that needs his drugs and pills in order to function, to defend the idea that brissett isn’t mediocre to poor garbage?

Nope... It's called a contributive fact. Obviously for you ... Not a resounding one.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

Nope... It's called a contributive fact. Obviously for you ... Not a resounding one.

Lol. Btw just busting your chops. I actually think Jacoby is a decent qb. Like bridgewater, worth a mid rounder just not a high pick.

 

[luuked]

Yes.. point is to honestly assess former pats QB performance, since that's kinda the title of the thread. Couple guys have bashed him so my post is a counterpoint.

You are saying bashing, all I see is just pretty realistic evaluation. He has shown nothing while he was here and now with the Colts after getting all the snaps he has developed his strengths but would still be totally miscast in a high precision offense. He still is not proficient making progression, his delivery is too slow, his short-to-intermediate accuracy too low and decision making still not where it needs to be.

You are focusing on his stats and not his fit.

 

[Ring 6]

Some people have dismissed the Seattle report as untrue. Hmm.. why would sources lie about that? Doesn't seem like anyone needs to make up a trade offer .

It happened ... so maybe it doesn't fit narrative going around since people who are actually smarter at football that work in the NFL for a living have different opinion ? . How is this possible .?

It was from Ben Volin which makes it worth less than nothing, was already denied by the colts gm, and 2 trades just happened that show it was a ridiculous proposition.

 

[Coolade2]

It was from Ben Volin which makes it worth less than nothing, was already denied by the colts gm, and 2 trades just happened that show it was a ridiculous proposition.

Whether you believe the report or not is entirely based on your belief in the player. As in you don't. Volin believed in his sources. Seattle 2nd rounder could have been a later round pick. Brissett was drafted in the 3 Rd round. He's had 2 years of grooming under Brady and a year of experience playing for Indy.

2nd round pick is what he is worth . Keep watching..

 

[Crazy Patriot Guy]

Whether you believe the report or not is entirely based on your belief in the player. As in you don't. Volin believed in his sources. Seattle 2nd rounder could have been a later round pick. Brissett was drafted in the 3 Rd round. He's had 2 years of grooming under Brady and a year of experience playing for Indy.

2nd round pick is what he is worth . Keep watching..

Can everyone stop with the "grooming under Brady" angle when it comes to Briseett? Ryan Mallett spent much longer with Brady. What is he worth?

 

[Coolade2]

Can everyone stop with the "grooming under Brady" angle when it comes to Briseett? Ryan Mallett spent much longer with Brady. What is he worth?

So playing in Patriots system , learning under Brady, watching him first hand , hearing his advice, work ethic ,etc. is not worth anything? Because you named a dimwit who didn't make it?.

Wow. Really weak comment.. I expect better from you.

What is really overblown is the value of a pick vs an established player.. yes picks can work out with productive players but what is the percentage? The reason Brissett stock is going up is you can see he has the size and mobility and now the experience so you have more of a sure thing than a 2nd round crapshoot. People that bash him forget what Brady looked like his first couple years.. yikes.

 

[Crazy Patriot Guy]

So playing in Patriots system , learning under Brady, watching him first hand , hearing his advice, work ethic ,etc. is not worth anything? Because you named a dimwit who didn't make it?.

Wow. Really weak comment.. I expect better from you.

What is really overblown is the value of a pick vs an established player.. yes picks can work out with productive players but what is the percentage? The reason Brissett stock is going up is you can see he has the size and mobility and now the experience so you have more of a sure thing than a 2nd round crapshoot. People that bash him forget what Brady looked like his first couple years.. yikes.

No, I'm saying practicing in New England with Brady does not magically turn Brissett into a 2nd round pick in trade value, when Brett Hundley goes for a 6th. He has the size, mobility and now the experience and learned behind Aaron Rodgers. Please explain the drastic difference between those two players.

 

[Coolade2]

No, I'm saying practicing in New England with Brady does not magically turn Brissett into a 2nd round pick in trade value, when Brett Hundley goes for a 6th. He has the size, mobility and now the experience and learned behind Aaron Rodgers. Please explain the drastic difference between those two players.

JB. 13 TD, 7int. Rating 81.9,. Rushing TDs 5

BH 9 TD, 13 int, rating 67.9 rushing TDs 2

Brissett is also bigger.

 

[Crazy Patriot Guy]

JB. 13 TD, 7int. Rating 81.9,. Rushing TDs 5

BH 9 TD, 13 int, rating 67.9 rushing TDs 2

Brissett is also bigger.

And did those slightly better stats translate into wins? Did Brissett's play elevate in the 4th quarter of games? Was there any evidence at all that he made his teammates better? What did he do to be worth the alleged 2nd round pick beyond not getting hurt and being young?

 

[Ring 6]

Whether you believe the report or not is entirely based on your belief in the player. As in you don't. Volin believed in his sources. Seattle 2nd rounder could have been a later round pick. Brissett was drafted in the 3 Rd round. He's had 2 years of grooming under Brady and a year of experience playing for Indy.

2nd round pick is what he is worth . Keep watching..

Volin doesn’t gave sources. He is a joke. With no corroboration a statement by Volin is worthless and far more likely to be wrong than right.

I’m you and Mrs Brissett are very proud of him though.

 

[Tunescribe]

JB. 13 TD, 7int. Rating 81.9,. Rushing TDs 5

BH 9 TD, 13 int, rating 67.9 rushing TDs 2

Brissett is also bigger.

 

[rochrist]

Brissett stats this preseason.. 27-44. 61%. 327 yards. 0 td, 0 picks

The zero picks stands out as game manager.

In SF game he hit 50 yarder that led to short TD plunge.

Noted during broadcast was he ranked 4th in league last year in 60 yd plus throws. So , good on deep throws.

He rushed for a few first downs. Shed sacks with his size and mobility.


"mediocre-poor garbage" ..? Irsay stated he wouldn't trade Brissett for 1st round draft pick. And declined 2nd round offer from Seattle, per league sources. (Not that Owner Irsays opinion means anything.... Lol. )

Definitely, let's cite Irsay as an authority on anything.

 

[TheRainMaker]

25 pages and going? Wow!

 

[Ring 6]

And did those slightly better stats translate into wins? Did Brissett's play elevate in the 4th quarter of games? Was there any evidence at all that he made his teammates better? What did he do to be worth the alleged 2nd round pick beyond not getting hurt and being young?

Brissett played 15 full games. His team scored 2 4th quarter TDs.

 

[luuked]

So playing in Patriots system , learning under Brady, watching him first hand , hearing his advice, work ethic ,etc. is not worth anything? Because you named a dimwit who didn't make it?.

It means jack **** if you are physically unable to handle that system to the point where you are on the road to get cut after your second camp. He was garbage. JG didn't become a potential QB1 because he learned "under Brady". He became that player because BB and McD spent countless hours after practices working with him and his strengths.

What is really overblown is the value of a pick vs an established player.. yes picks can work out with productive players but what is the percentage? The reason Brissett stock is going up is you can see he has the size and mobility and now the experience so you have more of a sure thing than a 2nd round crapshoot. People that bash him forget what Brady looked like his first couple years.. yikes.

JB is an infinitely worse backup than Hoyer in our offense. That is the only thing that is relevant for this conversation. And he has not improved much at all in the last year when it comes to the shortcomings that made him redundant here.

 

[Coolade2]

Brissett played 15 full games. His team scored 2 4th quarter TDs.

Ah yess... The nuances of implied choking... Or is that cherry picking .? Lots of reasons for 4th quarter team wilting. Some have cited organization tanking for draft picks... Something they are good at.

Oh well.. hope we get some more data on the guy. Maybe Andrew's luck is running out..?.. Throwing shoulder surgery and getting hit a lot is not a good combo

Update... Last night :. Brissett 8-12, 68 yds,. 1 TD,. 0 int..

 

[Tunescribe]

Ah yess... The nuances of implied choking... Or is that cherry picking .? Lots of reasons for 4th quarter team wilting. Some have cited organization tanking for draft picks... Something they are good at.

Oh well.. hope we get some more data on the guy. Maybe Andrew's luck is running out..?.. Throwing shoulder surgery and getting hit a lot is not a good combo

Update... Last night :. Brissett 8-12, 68 yds,. 1 TD,. 0 int..

After your self-congratulatory arrival announcement, you so far have demonstrated a knack for fighting losing battles. Not a good start.

 

[Clonamery]

After your self-congratulatory arrival announcement, you so far have demonstrated a knack for fighting losing battles. Not a good start.

Is he related to Brissett or something?

 

[Tony2046]

So playing in Patriots system , learning under Brady, watching him first hand , hearing his advice, work ethic ,etc. is not worth anything? Because you named a dimwit who didn't make it?.

Wow. Really weak comment.. I expect better from you.

What is really overblown is the value of a pick vs an established player.. yes picks can work out with productive players but what is the percentage? The reason Brissett stock is going up is you can see he has the size and mobility and now the experience so you have more of a sure thing than a 2nd round crapshoot. People that bash him forget what Brady looked like his first couple years.. yikes.

I think you've forgotten what Brady looked like in his first couple of years... yikes.