I disagree about Thuney's trade value. He's not super young at this point and comes with a hefty financial price tag (or is a 1 year rental). Think we're much more likely to see him flipped for a 3 or 4 despite how important he is to this roster.
As for using Thuney to move up in the 1st, I can't think of many occasions where a player was used as a trade up chip in the 1st round. I also don't see us moving up in this year's 1st. It just seems simpler for all involved parties to trade him straight up for a pick.
I disagree with that synopsis Cousin.
If the Pats can squeeze some CAP from other areas or cut some aging players with way too high CAP numbers....and keep Thuney for the year. If he goes in FA in 2021 his number could bring a 3rd round comp pick. He is a younger player. He has been very durable.He has played above his Draft Round value. Why would you take less than a mid-round three to mitigate losing him?
A trade up "chip" is actually a helluva good idea. There are Teams that can use him that do NOT have first-rounders but some decent second-rounders.
Example The Steelers . They have the #49 pick in Round two and have just lost long-time stalwart Guard Ramon Foster to retirement..............Or WR JuJu Smith-Schuster is on his last contract year ( as is Thuney) . Does he excite any posters?
The Rams have nada for solid interior O line and a zillion-dollar QB in Goff. They have picks #52 and #57 in the second with"0" first-rounder. Would Thuney and our #23 first Rounder (plus maybe a late fourth we just got) suffice for the #52 and #57 and TE Tyler Higbee, an ascending 6'6" 260lb TE be a fair trade for both Teams? I already mentioned this. The Draft value points work.
I think a good deal that I mentioned also drew torches and pitchforks, but none-the-less a pretty interesting scenario. The Bears have two seconds (#43 and #50), no first-Rounder and their next pick is #163 in the fifth round. What a crap Draft situation for them..........but....they need a solid interior O Line piece. When the lost Long to retirement it has not been repaired. The need picks.
Now the interesting part so please follow along before you blast me. IMO a scenario would be to send Thuney and our pick #23 in the first and our #100 Comp pick in the third to the Bears for 2nd Round picks #43 and #50 and QB Mitch Trubisky.............and I am ducking as we speak. I have mentioned this Trade but did not go into great depth as to why.
Bears:
>The Fans hated Trubisky before he played his first game.
>The Fan consensus was that Pace used too much Draft capital to move up to get him.
>To move up one spot in the 2017 Draft Pace blinked. He sent the Bears #3 pick, #67 and #111, plus a third-rounder in 2018 to the Niners.
>The Bears can get a first-rounder with this deal
Trusisky's 2018 was pretty darn good. He was 12-4 as their starter and had the 3rd best QBR rating in the League. He is young (26) and has a lifetime NFL record of 20-11. The keyword here is his NFL record (NFL experience) . He had a bad year in 2019. Yes he did this and was complicit but had help. He had a O Line that was devastated with injuries no TE and WR that were on par with what we had last year....not too much. Nagy was on the Chiefs when they went and got Mahomes. He is a huge Fan of that kid. Not so of Trubisky. He tried to make Trubisky into Mahomes. Trubisky is athletic but not the League wunderkind.
That being said, the Bears went out and got Foles. He has worked with Nagy before and other Bears personnel. What Nagy wants in the next Mahomes. Jordon Love might be close if you squint and use imagination. #23 might get Love. Now what to do with the QB room?
You just hit the till for Foles. What if he picked Love to sit behind Foles and tries to be Dr. Frankenstein with Love? What does he do to get into the first and move Trubisky? Trubisky is NOT his problem. He was not the coach then.
I believe Trubisky can be fixed.
>He is better than any QB we are going to attempt to Draft after perhaps the first three this year.
>He is still on his rookie contract. He doesn't work out he is out of here in 2021.
> He has NFL Experience and in my humble opinion, if we take him to compete, he wins the job.
> He is NOT under the ghost of Mahomes that Nagy constructed,
> He has to be a better choice than a back up QB and one who has thrown 4 professional passes.
> He might be more mobile than both Stidma or Hoyer.
> He has warts. Can Josh fix them.
The Pats:
>BB brings in a reclamation project as he is known to do.
>Trubisky might have fewer flaws to fix than Winston and healthier than Newton.
>Trubisky actually is a better fit here.
>The Pats gain two picks in the sweet zone of this Draft.
>The save CAP from moving Thuney.
>They get a better deal than letting him go and taking a Comp pick.
> Might be cheaper than Winston or Newton.
I rest my case.
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