The Secondary

[JohnJH]

I am continually hearing good things about Woodson.

Someone said he and Campbell were the most impressive performers at the recent camp.

Maybe he is the solution at free safety?

He'd better be!

 

[upstater1]

Marcus was stuck on slot WRs like glue last year. He looked better than Jon Jones ever did.

 

[SlowGettingUp]

see him as run stuffing S.

Woodson has enough speed (4.45) to be a FS. He's bigger (200lb) and a shade faster than Devin McCourty. Of course we don't know if he has the smarts yet - those might take a few years to develop.

Davis is 6'1 but plays like he's 6'7 on the outside

Good example where RAS doesn't tell the story - he had very middling measurables.

 

[signbabybrady]

This is probably as much quality and depth that I have seen in a long time, more reason for optimism...
Throw in a hybrid like Mapu lots of interesting schemes..

I had similar thoughts on secondary last year but I think the pass rush hurt that. With White, adding Milt, and today's news about Barmore we have a pass rush to pair with it now too.

 

[JayNM]

Would it be crazy to trade for a safety?

peppers was pretty good roll by BB and having one guy to play that lighter dude in the secondary is what i think we are missing for real

Between all positions, secondary is the one where we are super irrealistacaly asking for a trens of injuries to stop, with nothing as depth

maybe a 3rd rounder from 2027 for a good young Fs?

 

[FredFromDartmouth]

Why did the Patriots let Jonathan Jones walk? Age? Health? Money?

 

[TheRainMaker]

Why did the Patriots let Jonathan Jones walk? Age? Health? Money?

All of the above and his play had been declining for years.

 

[TommyD4207]

Why did the Patriots let Jonathan Jones walk? Age? Health? Money?

Yes, yes, and yes.

 

[Huckleberry1]

I trust Vrabel and the front office to identify remaining weaknesses and to continue to work to address them. Depth at corner appears to be a weakness, so I expect that we will see them bringing some in.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Would it be crazy to trade for a safety?

peppers was pretty good roll by BB and having one guy to play that lighter dude in the secondary is what i think we are missing for real

Between all positions, secondary is the one where we are super irrealistacaly asking for a trens of injuries to stop, with nothing as depth

maybe a 3rd rounder from 2027 for a good young Fs?

Woodson is going to be the long term starter, and he’s going to be a good one.

 

[captain stone]

Marcus was stuck on slot WRs like glue last year. He looked better than Jon Jones ever did.

 

[captain stone]

Who's our #3 Outside CB behind Gonzo & Carlton the Doorman? And who's our #2 Slot CB behind Marcus?

 

[upstater1]

Who's our #3 Outside CB behind Gonzo & Carlton the Doorman? And who's our #2 Slot CB behind Marcus?

Should be Austin.

 

[Wozzy]

Se

I still have hope for Bolden, but it’s running out.

The best possible outcome for him is special teams player. He doesn’t possess the mobility, but he’s a great athlete in every other regard.

 

[Wozzy]

Yes - these are damn good numbers, particularly for someone who went undrafted. Would have ranked him 6th among CBs in the recent draft.

He had a long circuitous route through college, he played multiple different positions. At the end of the day he played and is a great athlete. He could have a better pro career than college one… it happens sometimes.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

I had similar thoughts on secondary last year but I think the pass rush hurt that. With White, adding Milt, and today's news about Barmore we have a pass rush to pair with it now too.

I think Farmer will be a great DT sub as well. Having a strong rotation is critical.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Who's our #3 Outside CB behind Gonzo & Carlton the Doorman?

Austin.

And who's our #2 Slot CB behind Marcus?

This could be a problem.

Myles Bryant is a FA.

 

[mgteich]

Austin.

This could be a problem.

Myles Bryant is a FA.

Bryant would immediately be our #5 corner, backing up both outside and inside.

 

[mgteich]

Will whoever added the poll please have Epps as a separate choice.

Also, there should be a place for a new acquisition, IMO much more likely than any of the bottom 4 and Minkins.

I want to be able to register my view that Epps is likely to be one our starting defensive backs (until Woodson takes over that position). And the view that Minkins is very unlikely to make the 53.
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I expect us to have 5 corners plus 4 safeties, although I am fine with a 5th safety.

2 outside corners, a NB, plus the combination of Austin and one (or even two) PS/UDFA types is just not sufficient.

 

[JayNM]

Woodson is going to be the long term starter, and he’s going to be a good one.