"The Patriots lost to a backup QB in the Super Bowl"

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

BS! He kept Butler on the bench when he was needed on the game. You don’t leave your #2 CB on the bench in the biggest game of the year

Idk what bill was thinking but someone mentioned it was Grady little like. Idk how this team will replace butler but we saw what it could be without him. Need a solid number 2 corner. Rowe's not that despite his athleticism.

 

[Ivan]

BS! He kept Butler on the bench when he was needed on the game. You don’t leave your #2 CB on the bench in the biggest game of the year

Jesus f@cking Christ enough with the crying about Butler. There are multiple threads, one over 140 pages, just for you to cry about Malcolm Butler. He’s not f.cking Lawrence Taylor, he’s an average CB who had a crappy year. He got himself benched. That’s his goddamn fault and no one else’s. STFU about Malcolm goddamnButler.

 

[Jackson 2]

Idk what bill was thinking but someone mentioned it was Grady little like. Idk how this team will replace butler but we saw what it could be without him. Need a solid number 2 corner. Rowe's not that despite his athleticism.

Anyone comparing Bill Belichick's coaching acumen, decision-making ability and any other possible leadership trait with Grady Little's sounds like an idiot. Furthermore, anyone else who gives that comparison an ounce of legitimacy is one.

 

[supafly]

Idk how this team will replace butler but we saw what it could be without him. Need a solid number 2 corner. Rowe's not that despite his athleticism.

We’ve had plenty of seasons where the team needed to replace their CB1, let alone their CB2. People have insanely short memories around here. As a matter of fact, we just went through this with Revis in 2015. Ty Law, Asante Samuel. Revis. Browner. There was a point where a guy like Leigh Bodden was a hero worthy of a market value second contract, here. We’ve had Earthwind Moreland, Troy Brown, Julian Edelman, and Randall Gay starting postseason games as CBs.

At the moment, we’ve got Gilmore, J.Jones, and Rowe as the top 3 core CBs, with the possibility of a practice sqyad promotion, emergence of Cyrus Jones as an actual competitor, the draft, and free agency to fill in the other two spots—hopefully pushing a guy like Rowe for playing time.

 

[DarrylS]

What is often not commented on in these neverending arguments, is that Foles played incredibly well(out of his mind??).. if you rewatch the game not only was he making the "safe" passes, but was "threading the needle" as well as any QB have seen this year..

Pederson and Reich had a brilliant game plan that played to the Pats weaknesses.. backup QB or not.

This pass to Corey Clement...



These sequence of plays that led to a TD in the 4th quarter...

 

[Soliel]

The pats didn’t lose to a back up quarterback. They lost to a team with 53 players 9 million over the cap. This team was playing a back up yes. This narrative about brady losing to foles is not intelligent. It’s about the same as people in the 90s saying Jordan lost to Latrell spreewell in that massacre on Friday night. Yes, Jordan lost but the five man at a time team lost not just Jordan, he scored 55 points

Or babe Ruth lost to the twins in a sweep. It happens

 

[LightSkinSmurf]

Didn't have to be that way if belichick didn't decide it was a great idea to bench arguably his best corner in the biggest game of the year.

 

[ivanvamp]

BS! He kept Butler on the bench when he was needed on the game. You don’t leave your #2 CB on the bench in the biggest game of the year

Well maybe he made a colossal mistake. But Belichick and the Patriots owe you absolutely nothing.

 

[captain stone]

At the moment, we’ve got Gilmore, J.Jones, and Rowe as the top 3 core CBs...

That's not good enough.

 

[captain stone]

...This narrative about Brady losing to Foles is not intelligent...

Nobody is claiming that Brady himself lost to Foles.

It was Bill & MP & their awful "defense" that lost to a backup QB.

 

[supafly]

That's not good enough.

No. It’s definitely not good enough, but it’s at least a starting point at a position that has 3/4 guys locked up on contracts.

As always, we will consider upgrades and also have an eye on 2019. I certainly expect a CB taken in the draft.

 

[sb1]

Idk what bill was thinking but someone mentioned it was Grady little like.

That's not a good analogy or comparison...for many reasons.

 

[sb1]

What is often not commented on in these neverending arguments, is that Foles played incredibly well(out of his mind??).. if you rewatch the game not only was he making the "safe" passes, but was "threading the needle" as well as any QB have seen this year..

Pederson and Reich had a brilliant game plan that played to the Pats weaknesses.. backup QB or not.

Not just in the SB but the NFC Championship game too, against a much better defense.

Sometimes you just get beat and have to tip your cap.

 

[Halifax_Pats_Fan]

#OnTo2018...

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

Our defense made Foles look great. He was too comfortable throughout the game. No blitz. It was like a slow death. You tip your cap but our defense was abysmal.

 

[Brady6]

This is the theme these days from Pats critics.

While this statement is technically true, just like it's very true that the Greatest Show on Turf lost to a backup QB in the Super Bowl...but it's also a little disingenuous, as said backup QB was a pro bowler not that long ago, he also won 3 playoff games this year and would be a solid starter on most teams in the NFL. It's not like the Pats lost a Super Bowl to a Brian Hoyer or Brett Hundley or Landry Jones.

So silly what people will reach for these days to pile on the Patriots. SMH

It is so ridiculous that people think we had an advantage over the Eagles, maybe you forgot but Belichick knew the Eagles had a backup QB and to ensure a fair game he benched his starting CB, I think if anything Belichick deserves credit for not taking advantage of the situation by playing his best players.

 

[50-yard-line]

That backup QB made a dozen beautiful throws - a couple well down the field, ran the RPO well, and made no mistakes (even the pick was a fluke).

Even a really bad NFL QB can have a Tom Brady day, and Foles isn't a really bad QB at all. Nor is he a back-up any more, certainly.

When he's in the right system, as with Philly originally and now again, the guy can play at a very high level.

Ask the great Minnesota defense.

 

[50-yard-line]

Anyone comparing Bill Belichick's coaching acumen, decision-making ability and any other possible leadership trait with Grady Little's sounds like an idiot. Furthermore, anyone else who gives that comparison an ounce of legitimacy is one.

I think they're referring to me, when I said that BB is the greatest coach I've ever seen but IMO, he had a Grady Little moment with Butler (based soolely on what we can actually know about the situation).

So plenty of caveats there, and I'll add: unless there's more to the story, benching Butler and then not putting him in as they got torched repeatedly, wasn't really BB's shining moment as an NFL coach.

Disagree and name-call all you want, bub, but the Eagles were salivating when they (unexpectedly) realized tha tRowe was on an island with Alshon...and tore Chung (who was out of his strength) and Richards apart, repeatedly.

While Malcolm Butler, the guy who had gone 1-on-1 repeatedly with Antonio Brown and had proven that the Superb Owl wasn't too big a stage for him, stood one th sidelines.

In a word, duh.

 

[Jackson 2]

A moment, by definition, is a very brief amount of time. Grady Little's ill-fated decision in October of 2003 was made in a brief, stressful, heat-of- the-moment time span during a game. Belichick's decision to bench Butler was made sometime before the game when he had the benefit and luxury of time to carefully consider the pros and cons of his move. If you want to argue that both decisions were mistakes, that's one thing. But, to contend that their circumstances were similar is simply wrong. They weren't...Bub...

 

[50-yard-line]

A moment, by definition, is a very brief amount of time. Grady Little's ill-fated decision in October of 2003 was made in a brief, stressful, heat-of- the-moment time span during a game. Belichick's decision to bench Butler was made sometime before the game when he had the benefit and luxury of time to carefully consider the pros and cons of his move. If you want to argue that both decisions were mistakes, that's one thing. But, to contend that their circumstances were similar is simply wrong. They weren't...Bub...

To not put him in when the Eagles were roaring was repeatedly a spur of the moment choice, bub.

ps. Bub, you called me an idiot, so if you take offense at "bub," reevaluate your life.