Content Post The 2011 season: The Jets Suck (merged a lot)

[JetFan1]

I don't want you to argue. I want you to provide the link to the, in your words, "absolute fact".

Again your options are 1. Provide the link of the records that say the championships are "tarnish", or 2. take it back. or, 3. move on.

If it's "an absolute fact" then you shouldn't have any trouble post a link to the records.

Hint: Your opinion is not fact.

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I'll move on because I said I wasn't going to regurgitate the topic, but I'm not taking anything back.

 

[TB=TD]

I'll move on because I said I wasn't going to regurgitate the topic, but I'm not taking anything back.

Considering the Jets hired known cheater Steve Scarnecchia as Video Director you should move on.

 

[Tunescribe]

Brady is 35 years old, years longer? I think not... The window is closing.

The spin about how Kraft owning the team means more than Belichick coaching it, and Brady being its QB was pretty funny though... LOL!!!

Lordy, that's not at all what I said (talk about spin!). You expect the Pats to tank and your Green Beans to rise once BB and Brady are done. Based on what? My money will always be on superior ownership/organization over the long haul.

 

[PATSNUTme]

I'll move on because I said I wasn't going to regurgitate the topic, but I'm not taking anything back.

OK, I'll take that as your admitting that there are no " absolute facts".

Half the people in any given Walmart store think the other half are aliens, but that is just their opinions.

 

[Rob0729]

Brady is 35 years old, years longer? I think not... The window is closing.

The spin about how Kraft owning the team means more than Belichick coaching it, and Brady being its QB was pretty funny though... LOL!!!

Brady is 34. The window appears to never be open for Sanchez. No running game and an average defense and he is a bottom tier QB this year. Brady with mediocre defense and a decent running game and he was unanimous MVP last year.

 

[JaxPats]

OK, I'll take that as your admitting that there are no " absolute facts".

Half the people in any given Walmart store think the other half are aliens, but that is just their opinions.

True dat the other half are really smart Jet fans......

 

[Joker]

Brady is 34. The window appears to never be open for Sanchez. No running game and an average defense and he is a bottom tier QB this year. Brady with mediocre defense and a decent running game and he was unanimous MVP last year.

Ooooooops...there go those pesky facts again....BTW, how old was Elway when the Broncos won back to back Super Bowls????...oh, almost forgot...who's a better quarterback...Elway or Sanchez,JetFan1? Simple enough...I took that pesky Brady option out of there because ,for some unknown reason, you refuse to answer a direct, simple question with an answer...one or the other.,..try it THIS time...

 

[Tunescribe]

I never said it was a big misunderstanding. The Pats cheated. I have maintained everyone did it and Belichick's biggest crime was of arrogance. Goodell knew plenty of teams videotaped the sidelines. He sent out a memo telling everyone to cut it out. Belichick ignored the memo. He got slapped with a big penalty for it.

I have provided proof that it was a common practice from an article written before Spygate. It isn't spin. The Pats cheated and they disregarded a direct order from Goodell and that is why he came down so harshly.

Rob, I have to take issue with you here over your assertion that the Pats "cheated." How do you specifically define cheating in this case? I don't see it as that according to the facts of how things actually came down, why the taping was done and how it was used by BB.

They broke a procedural rule handed down by the league, but how that translated to "cheating" (gaining unfair competitive advantage) was never substantiated -- by ANYONE. Goodell went out of his way to declare that the taped "intelligence" never was applied real-time, and that the Pats were penalized for breaking the rule on camera placement only, not specifically for taping opponents' signals and not "cheating" per se. The whole "cheating" allegation is forwarded by Pats haters and all but dismissed by other NFL insiders who confirmed that taping opponents' signals was/is commonplace leaguewide.

The Patriots simply were made an example of by a heavy handed rookie commissioner who overreacted in the process of establishing his authority. If Tagliabue was still in charge during this tempest in a teapot, I doubt it would've made news.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

Is it sunday yet?

 

[JetFan1]

Considering the Jets hired known cheater Steve Scarnecchia as Video Director you should move on.

Weak and lame!!!

 

[JetFan1]

Rob, I have to take issue with you here over your assertion that the Pats "cheated." How do you specifically define cheating in this case? I don't see it as that according to the facts of how things actually came down, why the taping was done and how it was used by BB.

They broke a procedural rule handed down by the league, but how that translated to "cheating" (gaining unfair competitive advantage) was never substantiated -- by ANYONE. Goodell went out of his way to declare that the taped "intelligence" never was applied real-time, and that the Pats were penalized for breaking the rule on camera placement only, not specifically for taping opponents' signals and not "cheating" per se. The whole "cheating" allegation is forwarded by Pats haters and all but dismissed by other NFL insiders who confirmed that taping opponents' signals was/is commonplace leaguewide.

The Patriots simply were made an example of by a heavy handed rookie commissioner who overreacted in the process of establishing his authority. If Tagliabue was still in charge during this tempest in a teapot, I doubt it would've made news.

LOL

Still in the first stage...

Denial

This first stage of grieving helps us to survive the loss. In this stage, the world becomes meaningless and overwhelming. Life makes no sense. We are in a state of shock and denial. We go numb. We wonder how we can go on, if we can go on, why we should go on. We try to find a way to simply get through each day. Denial and shock help us to cope and make survival possible. Denial helps us to pace our feelings of grief. There is a grace in denial. It is nature’s way of letting in only as much as we can handle.

 

[Tunescribe]

LOL

Still in the first stage...

Show me where I'm wrong, you twit, and be specific. You know nothing about it. And YOU of all people should know better than to accuse others of being in "denial." You're its poster boy.

 

[PATSNUTme]

Show me where I'm wrong, you twit, and be specific. You know nothing about it. And YOU of all people should know better than to accuse others of being in "denial." You're its poster boy.

He will not be replying to your post. He was suppose to "move on", that was his choice, and he didn't. He is not banned from the site, just this thread.

Let's see how things go in other threads.

 

[NinjaZX6R]

I didn't know where to post this...but here.

 

[JaxPats]

Weak and lame!!!

Your sounding like the Phin fans now. Then again Green is a darker shade of Aqua green. Like them loooosars, you live in the past JF1. Haven't won anything in a thousand years. Maybe you guys should play for Fireman Eds helmut instead. At least it would protect your head from bird droppings from all the pigeons and seagulls coming off the dump in Joi-sey. BTW, feel to come up to Patriot Place and marvel in awe at all of our nice shiny trophys. We have loads of them. I like the tall ones WE have the best. You know, the ones with the football on top. It's incredible to me that a mediocre team with a second rate QB and disfunctional organazation could aquire soooooooo many trophys awards and shattered dozens of records in just a short time. Maybe Woody should get his own crib. Must be embarassing every time to ask to borrow the stadium from your big brothers.

 

[NY10JETS28]

so...overtly racist posts on a public forum are fine with you?

because he served in VietNam 40 years ago, it's fine by you if he hurls racist epithets at African American sports fans? It's all "good natured fun" and doesn't mean anything?

and one more thing...we notice a number of you JI Jet fans post here but don't use an identifying moniker that correlates to your JI handle...why is that? what are you so afraid of? who ARE you really...just so we can get a good handle on your true feelings by reading your posts there....

I don't often post here or at JI. My firm won't run itself. I have no time to be an internet celebrity.. I still attend every home game, just don't need 10K posts to express my loyalty.

 

[TedyB54]

It is an honorable thing to serve this country in war, but it doesn't give you a free pass to act however you want. You can serve in Vietnam and still be a pathetic dirtbag.

BINGO! We got BINGO here!

It's apparent that simple logic eludes Jets fans, but I appreciate the effort.

 

[Tunescribe]

He will not be replying to your post. He was suppose to "move on", that was his choice, and he didn't. He is not banned from the site, just this thread.

Let's see how things go in other threads.

Just restrict him to the Visitors' Forum, that should take care of it. The only reason he's here is to get a rise out of us and because he's been banned everywhere else.

 

[Rob0729]

Rob, I have to take issue with you here over your assertion that the Pats "cheated." How do you specifically define cheating in this case? I don't see it as that according to the facts of how things actually came down, why the taping was done and how it was used by BB.

They broke a procedural rule handed down by the league, but how that translated to "cheating" (gaining unfair competitive advantage) was never substantiated -- by ANYONE. Goodell went out of his way to declare that the taped "intelligence" never was applied real-time, and that the Pats were penalized for breaking the rule on camera placement only, not specifically for taping opponents' signals and not "cheating" per se. The whole "cheating" allegation is forwarded by Pats haters and all but dismissed by other NFL insiders who confirmed that taping opponents' signals was/is commonplace leaguewide.

The Patriots simply were made an example of by a heavy handed rookie commissioner who overreacted in the process of establishing his authority. If Tagliabue was still in charge during this tempest in a teapot, I doubt it would've made news.

The Pats broke a rule. It was cheating. Was it the federal case that the media and most of the country made it? Absolutely not. But it was still cheating. Teams cheat all the time. Most of this cheating is very minor. This was slightly larger, but not really a huge deal considering the Pats were taping something that was in plain site for 60,000 to see.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- Instead of taking their customary verbal shots at the New England Patriots, the New York Jets spent Wednesday trying to clean up a festering controversy in their own locker room.

Wide receiver Santonio Holmes touched an internal nerve by calling out quarterback Mark Sanchez and the offensive line after Sunday night's 34-17 loss to the Baltimore Ravens. The damage control began Monday on the practice field, where Sanchez gathered the entire offense and delivered an impassioned speech that emphasized team unity, ESPNNewYork.com has learned.

Sanchez admitted Wednesday that Holmes' comments were addressed among the players. Clearly, Sanchez was uncomfortable discussing the matter with reporters, but he left little doubt that the remarks didn't sit well.

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"Our player policy is to keep things in-house. That kind of stuff won't happen again," said the Jets quarterback, adding, "We talked about it. ... Within our locker room, we talk about stuff like that. That's as far as I'm going to go with that."

Holmes may have helped us by calling out his own QB...LOL what a bunch of tools