Fair. I really respect your opinion, by the way. I admit I didn't watch a lot of the Cardinals this year either, so maybe he did reveal himself as a fraud. I just thought he was the best QB peospect last year and would have a hard time passing on him for a 2nd or something. I just remember a lot of "Josh isn't hungry, he doesn't love the game, he's not a leader" takes that either explicitly or implicitly mentioned him being a rich tennis playing kid who never faced adversity and was clearly just in it for the money (you can almost see someone flicking their nose knowingly as they wrote that). His coaches and teammates at UCLA pretty stringently disagreed, but that was still the narrative.