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  1. sean10mm

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    The 2017 Eagles were #3 in scoring offense and #4 in scoring defense, #1 in point differential. In the regular season Wentz was an MVP candidate. Then Foles in the playoffs: 6 touchdowns, 1 interception, 2 sacks, no games with a passer rating below 100.

    They were extremely good the entire time, and it was very obvious. They fell off a cliff after the super bowl run, but that season they were 100% legit. If anything the 2004 Eagles were the fluke of the two.
     
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    Ownership has been the problem all along; idiots like the Rapist, Bell & Brown are merely the results.
     
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    I'm having a hard time seeing how a team that went to 4 straight NFCCG and won 11 or more games for 5 consecutive years can be described as a fluke.
     
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    Not buying the allegation based on this guy's say so.
     
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    I've respected Michaels ever since he properly diagnosed the "Bababooey" Al Cowlings call.
     
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    They were a consistently GOOD team... but that was it. They basically had a cakewalk to the Super Bowl that year against profoundly weak Vikings and Falcons teams.
     
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    Same here. It looks more like BR screwed up and handed it off to the wrong guy to me.
     
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    Just looks like a bad, broken play to me.

    If one were to fumble as a tantrum-like protest, you make it look like you are goofing up on purpose. Play banana hands and do some acting. Trying to fumble but selling it as a miscue doesn't make much sense.
     
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    That was my first thought, although it would be awesome if BR really did fumble it on purpose! More likely though, he was thinking about how to come up with his best injury dive, particularly on a play where he didn't like the call, and he muffed the hand-off. Good thing Josh Harris didn't talk about that, LOL.
     
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    What I find odd is if Rothlisberger didn’t like the play call and wanted to kneel, why didn’t he just kneel and ignore Haley? Bledsoe did it to Carrol in 1998 against the Dolphins on MNF running a play instead of calling a timeout.

    When you’re making the most money on the team and the face of the franchise, what is an offense of coordinator or even a head coach like Tomlin going to do to him? Bench him? :rolleyes:
     
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    ???

    From the article:

     
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    Nope. They can cut or trade his ass.

    Bill and Bernie’s 1993 Power Struggle | Waiting For Next Year
     
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    I was focused on Big Ben seeming to be aloof from teammates, then going on the radio to criticize the players around him (like Antonio Brown) for doing something wrong in a loss, then stating because he has been with the team for a long time, he has a right to do that. He then states he doesn't know how others take it, and the reporter should go ask them. Antonio Brown shot his way out of town. I guess that's an answer.

    PS - Brady has been with the Pats longer than Big Ben has been with the Steelers, but I have never heard him say that longevity gives him the right to criticize his teammates publicly.
     
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    It's a style difference. It's not a right or wrong issue. Roethlisberger and Peyton will call someone out publicly, and it works for them. Eli and Brady will avoid doing so by throwing blankets over everything ("We need to X better. We need to Y Better"), and that works for them.

    Antonio Brown was, according to reports, showing up late, living in his own place during camps, quitting on his team, and the like. Why should that entitle him to freedom from public criticism by his QB?
     
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    That wouldn’t happen as long as he wants to be there and playing well.
     
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    If he were doing well Bill would have traded them in the offseason.

    What Roeth did was insubordinate behavior. Thats how a coach loses control of the locker room by allowing that undermining-type activity.
     
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    Because he criticized him not for the things you state, but for running the wrong route in a loss.
     
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