Quote the Patriots' Play: STFU negative nancies

[pazrul72]

From the Browns board:

Lol. I should note, most of their fans over there are not spewing this kind of ridiculousness, just mostly depressed.

To be fair if you didnt know who Meyers was and why that was so important to him the celebration was ridiculously over the top and I was thinking along the same lines about being more concerned with the guy who might not walk again. It wasnt a good look and I wish more patriots had been on the field kneeling. One of the things I love about football is despite wearing different uniforms and trying to rip your head off all game long at the end of the day everyone is just a player of a game and needs to be worried about and supported.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Wait you have a lawn guy?

Damn, can I get you some Grey Poupon?

I sure do. $50 a mow. Edging too. It's a good deal. By no means I am wealthy but I have a ****load of lawn. I do everything else like fertilizer, mulch, trim shrubs, flowerbeds, etc. I like yard work, actually.

Foliage is way too late this year. Usually i'm done with the leaves before Thanksgiving but I have way too many oak trees. At this point those leaves won't have fallen until January.

 

[Kasmir]

Not sure I buy that and I had a feeling someone would say this. There are alot of brady lovers here *as there should be* that respect/love brady more than belichick and wants brady to succeed. I don't think there are many if any here that want the pats to fail though. There might be some here that will call it a silver lining if they do fail so they can get to say, "I told ya so" similar to this post however.

Many of those folks are so publicly invested in the anti-BB narrative that they can't root for the team while Belichick persists. Belichick going to the playoffs with Mac would impeach the narrative so strongly supported by Tompa's win last year. Ego trumps loyalty to laundry. Their dream would be for Belichick to be fired or at least retire with a non-Tom losing record. Then they could root for the Pats again.

 

[amfootball]

Many of those folks are so publicly invested in the anti-BB narrative that they can't root for the team while Belichick persists. Belichick going to the playoffs with Mac would impeach the narrative so strongly supported by Tompa's win last year. Ego trumps loyalty to laundry. Their dream would be for Belichick to be fired or at least retire with a non-Tom losing record. Then they could root for the Pats again.

Did you just make this up in your head?

 

[50-yard-line]

If Tom wins in Tampa Bay year one, and Bill wins with a rookie QB year two, it would be an ultimate mic drop.

But, though I’ve been vocal about the whole thing and am firmly QB>coach, I’ll reiterate that Bill doesn’t need to win a championship to stick his chest out. It would be awesome, but building another contender, and finding another QB to run the offense well…these are things I’m looking at.

Brady didn’t prove himself by winning the Super Bowl, either. He proved himself by flourishing in a totally different environment and showing he was never the product of anything.

Brady's greatest legacy for his Tampa bay years will be in going to a group of talented players and making them a team. I think he did that more than anyone else. It's really quite amazing.

 

[sb1]

Many of those folks are so publicly invested in the anti-BB narrative that they can't root for the team while Belichick persists. Belichick going to the playoffs with Mac would impeach the narrative so strongly supported by Tompa's win last year. Ego trumps loyalty to laundry. Their dream would be for Belichick to be fired or at least retire with a non-Tom losing record. Then they could root for the Pats again.

Wouldn't do anything to the narrative. Brady's win proved beyond a doubt that he was never the product of some "system" and the Patriots winning titles didn't come from a magical system invented by their coach, it was the players that were great all along, especially the QB. And they were well coached.

I don't think anyone here is really anti-BB. There might have been one but he hasn't posted here in months.

 

[50-yard-line]

Wouldn't do anything to the narrative. Brady's win proved beyond a doubt that he was never the product of some "system" and the Patriots winning titles didn't come from a magical system invented by their coach, it was the players that were great all along, especially the QB. And they were well coached.

I don't think anyone here is really anti-BB. There might have been one but he hasn't posted here in months.

The only people who ever said crap like that are sports click-baiters or fans of other teams. Is there really anyone in Patriots' nation who wouldn't say Brady was the unquestioned GOAT? I mean, come on.

 

[denverpatsfan]

Tomato Can.
Let's see how this team can compete with the best in the NFL later this month.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Tomato Can.
Let's see how this team can compete with the best in the NFL later this month.

You are saying the current team is a tomato can?

Shank Shaughnessy is that you?

 

[amfootball]

Wouldn't do anything to the narrative. Brady's win proved beyond a doubt that he was never the product of some "system" and the Patriots winning titles didn't come from a magical system invented by their coach, it was the players that were great all along, especially the QB. And they were well coached.

I don't think anyone here is really anti-BB. There might have been one but he hasn't posted here in months.

Really the debate to me was never Brady over Bill. It was more about the impact of players vs coaches. What last year showed and this year is that coaches are only as good as the players they have, specifically the Qb given how much he influences the game.

Mac appears to have the goods at least as much as we can tell through half a season. If the Pats make the post season and hopefully do some damage it will be primarily due to Mac and his abilities to operate the offense the way the coaches have drawn it up.

 

[XLIX]

Football Outsiders forecast now has us with an 88.1% chance of making the playoffs.

And this:



Giddy. Imagine if Mac wins a Super Bowl his first year. Return of the Jedi. And if he beats Tompa, I will Ascend... after force feeding lots and lots of crow sh*t.

2022 NFL PLAYOFF ODDS | Football Outsiders

NFL Playoff Odds

www.footballoutsiders.com

I just can't take those odds seriously. Setting aside the fact that the Bills lost to the Jaguars, how can the 2 (current) #1 seeds not be on that list? Especially Tennessee, who has a 2 game lead. Their chances rise drastically by virtue of the fact that they have one fewer playoff game they need to win.

 

[Rob0729]

Wouldn't do anything to the narrative. Brady's win proved beyond a doubt that he was never the product of some "system" and the Patriots winning titles didn't come from a magical system invented by their coach, it was the players that were great all along, especially the QB. And they were well coached.

I don't think anyone here is really anti-BB. There might have been one but he hasn't posted here in months.

If you go back to the preseason, there were clearly people who anti-Belichick and were practically rooting for this team to fail (one or two may have said it outright).

A lot of those people didn't leave. The anti-Belichick threads did. Some of those people just were negative about the team and Mac Jones. They talked about ridiculous things like how they worry about whether Mac could throw with anticipation (What?!? That is one of his biggest strengths) and comment how all his passes had no velocity or zip. They would criticize all the free agents. The content changed, but the tone of their posts stayed the same.

I don't want to overstate it. It was a handful of people. But there were definitely people here who were practically rooting for his team to fail because they hate Belichick. And the second the Pats lose, I expect them to be back.

 

[amfootball]

I think we all can agree that it would be absolutely delicious if we draw the Chiefs in the post season and beat them again. I am rooting for that.

 

[denverpatsfan]

You are saying the current team is a tomato can?

Shank Shaughnessy is that you?

Yes channeling my inner Shaughnessey.
Browns are another tomato can team...

 

[DropKickFlutie]

Many of those folks are so publicly invested in the anti-BB narrative

BB retiring or leaving, considering who his replacement would likely be, is my nightmare scenario as a fan. Which is why I want BB to turn it around. If the team keeps losing (like it was before at 2-4), I shudder to think of the alternative replacement-HC scenarios if BB starts taking heat or ends up stepping down. I'm a staunch BB guy but recognize that he is old in age and relies a lot on his staff which has big differences in quality across the staff.

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[sb1]

If you go back to the preseason, there were clearly people who anti-Belichick and were practically rooting for this team to fail (one or two may have said it outright).

A lot of those people didn't leave. The anti-Belichick threads did. Some of those people just were negative about the team and Mac Jones. They talked about ridiculous things like how they worry about whether Mac could throw with anticipation (What?!? That is one of his biggest strengths) and comment how all his passes had no velocity or zip. They would criticize all the free agents. The content changed, but the tone of their posts stayed the same.

I don't overstate. It was a handful of people. But there were definitely people here who were practically rooting for his team to fail because they hate Belichick. And the second the Pats lose, I expect them to be back.

I think a lot of us feel the Brady exit didn't have to happen. I also was upset at how it happened leading up to it and I was very sour on Tom here for a while but I got over it and happy I did. I also felt that firing BB for letting Brady go would be compounding one mistake with another.

I'd say a lot of that skepticism is par for the course for a rebuilding team that hasn't rebuilt in a couple of decades and where we can't take winning for granted anymore. I'm optimistic about Mac...at least cautiously. I'm not ready to say he's great or going to be great. We don't know that yet.

 

[mikey m]

Really the debate to me was never Brady over Bill. It was more about the impact of players vs coaches. What last year showed and this year is that coaches are only as good as the players they have, specifically the Qb given how much he influences the game.

Mac appears to have the goods at least as much as we can tell through half a season. If the Pats make the post season and hopefully do some damage it will be primarily due to Mac and his abilities to operate the offense the way the coaches have drawn it up.

You're ignoring the fact that coaching directly impacts player performance. To what degree, neither you nor I will ever know.

 

[Kasmir]

I just can't take those odds seriously. Setting aside the fact that the Bills lost to the Jaguars, how can the 2 (current) #1 seeds not be on that list? Especially Tennessee, who has a 2 game lead. Their chances rise drastically by virtue of the fact that they have one fewer playoff game they need to win.

They actually address all that in their DVOA article. Tennessee is a mediocre team by DVOA but will almost certainly make the playoffs because they are 8-2 with a very easy remain schedule (only the Pats are above average). But their simulations have them failing in the playoffs because of their weakness by DVOA.

 

[Rob0729]

I think a lot of us feel the Brady exit didn't have to happen. I also was upset at how it happened leading up to it and I was very sour on Tom here for a while but I got over it and happy I did. I also felt that firing BB for letting Brady go would be compounding one mistake with another.

I'd say a lot of that skepticism is par for the course for a rebuilding team that hasn't rebuilt in a couple of decades and where we can't take winning for granted anymore. I'm optimistic about Mac...at least cautiously. I'm not ready to say he's great or going to be great. We don't know that yet.

I wasn't pointing the finger at you. I don't consider you as one of the people I described.

But there is a difference in being skeptical and almost hoping the worst case scenario for the Pats happens. And there are people doing the latter.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Yes channeling my inner Shaughnessey.
Browns are another tomato can team...

The Pats are not a middling, bottom feeding team. That was the 2019 team.

They are smoking playoff contenders.