Post Game Thread- Pats at Lions

[iapatsfan]

I wish a reporter would ask BB how he expects to be competitive in 2018 rolling out the slowest defense in the league.

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

I’m seeing a team that is mentally and emotionally not “there”. I think they have enough talent, not the best in the league, but they’ve done more with less in years past.

The play calling on offense has been off and Brady has made some terrible decisions. I hate when he gets down and just chucks it up there. There were a few plays where receivers were covered but James White was open and he keeps holding the ball. It’s like he’s trying to get 14 points on one play.

In years past they never gave up no matter what. The last two weeks they gave up on both games and just mailed it in for the last 5 minutes. I don’t know WTF that is. It’s never over in this league as long as their is time on the clock but they’re not playing with any urgency.

Something is drastically wrong behind the scenes and has been for months and I think it comes from the top down and it’s poisoning the entire team. I don’t know what the resolution is but this team looks flat, emotionless and disinterested.

Whatever happened in the Super Bowl has not been resolved and it’s still eating away at this team.

Gronk just confirmed Bill wanted to trade him so since its confirmed, I need to question Bill's tactics this season. We already have a weak crew of WR, but adding on you wanted Gronk out?

Isn't it somehow possible with every report, maybe just maybe the leadership is imploding and some are sick of Bill?

 

[Deus Irae]

We literally traded a first round pick for a year of Brandin Cooks and a higher first round pick. You're entitled to have whatever personal feeling you want, but if your personal feeling if also a really stupid take then it's going to be called out as such.

Well they cannot pass because they have no receivers. So I guess they are screwed.

Again, the compensation value has absolutely nothing to do with the results. How do you not understand that?

One could argue that the gain is undercut by the lack of replacement. In that case, the return itself (in a vacuum) is not peanuts, but the overall result is. In fact, the reverse of that argument is made all the time around here (Well, they traded Chandler Jones and got....).

I've never bought that argument, but those who have should have to accept Todd's argument with regards to the Cook deal.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

This game was ugly, but to fix the patriots we need the following:

1.) the d line has to stop the run. Shelton and brown and the ends have to 2 gap because none of them are covering their gaps properly. linebackers have to fill the correct holes on running plays. Bentley and Hightower are constantly out of position.

3.) we need a deep threat on the outside in order to keep defenses from crowding the box.

It’s not rocket science. And we are not far away from being the team we are supposed to be.

 

[Crazy Patriot Guy]

Considering that BB has been whiffing on his picks and the fact that the guy we drafted in the cooks trade is out for the year, yeah i'd say it's peanuts too.

I'll run with a known commodity like Cooks anyday over a draft pick that is most likely going to turn out as a wasted pick.

So had we traded Cooks for the #1 overall pick, we drafted Bradley Chubb and he got hurt in the preseason, would you still say we traded Cooks for peanuts?

 

[VectorPrime]

Bill is not going to like that Gronk confirmed the reports of an attempted trade.

As far as I’m concerned though Bill can suck it. Is he trying to deplete the roster of talent?

 

[PatsFan2]

The decisions made at WR are understandable, even with how poorly they worked out. The overall offseason strategy of relying so heavily on retread WR (Britt, Matthews, Patterson) was risky. The over reliance on Edelman and Hightower to not only be healthy but back to their prime selves was risky. Hoping career mediocrities Shelton and Clayborn woukd stabilize the DL was outright bad judgment. Not actually improving the LB corps other than 5th round long shots was outright negligent

This team badly needed an infusion of athleticism and upside in the front 7 and BB chose to draft a RB and OL on the 1st round. Very curious and it's looking to be his worst offseason of his career. Nothing he can do about it now but it's a shame to fail so spectacularly in roster management in Brady's waning years.

I remember you being very critical of the retread approach at WR. But there were those saying we'll be alright because Brady and BB can make chicken salad out of chicken you know what.

 

[PatriotReign]

Yes. I think so too. Look at the last 3 draft classes and it's brutal. That's why the D sucks so much, except Flowers and maybe Wise non of the drafted guys are good enough to be starters. The high earners are not performing either. Hightower, McCourty and Gilmore are being paid at an top5 at their position level and none of them plays like that.

Gilmore had one bad play. Everything the other 2 did was dreadful.

 

[Pessimistic Pete]

So our defense is just as awful as last year and we replaced the 130 receptions from Cooks/Amendola/Lewis with.....nothing.

************, if the defense was still going to be awful they should have at least ensured that the offense remained elite so we can still shoot out any team in the league.

 

[YOUGOTMOSSED]

This game was ugly, but to fix the patriots we need the following:

1.) the d line has to stop the run. Shelton and brown and the ends have to 2 gap because none of them are covering their gaps properly. linebackers have to fill the correct holes on running plays. Bentley and Hightower are constantly out of position.

3.) we need a deep threat on the outside in order to keep defenses from crowding the box.

It’s not rocket science. And we are not far away from being the team we are supposed to be.

What was the 2nd thing?

 

[iapatsfan]

Burkhead is always hurt.
Wish we could save the cap and part ways.

Who would have thought a Bengals cast away, who has shown next to nothing since Nebraska, wouldn't end up being a stud on your team.

I guess this is the product you get when you make Browns your farm team.

Depressing

 

[PatriotSpy]

So had we traded Cooks for the #1 overall pick, we drafted Bradley Chubb and he got hurt in the preseason, would you still say we traded Cooks for peanuts?

That's different, or then again maybe it's not cause we all know BB would have traded the #1 overall pick for more draft duds.

 

[bormio]

Bill is not going to like that Gronk confirmed the reports of an attempted trade.

As far as I’m concerned though Bill can suck it. Is he trying to deplete the roster of talent?

So now they will ask Brady if he threatened to retire if Gronk was traded.

 

[stcjones]

I feel now like this is a rebuilding/redefining year now....could obviously be wrong but feel like this is last year for both Belichick and Brady.....and that mcdouche will be the next head coach which may end poorly I would imagine.....so we are heading back to the 80-99 year period where the Pats would hang around but never contend....Pray I’m wrong but feel like we are heading back into the darkness

 

[ViperGTS]

Bill is not going to like that Gronk confirmed the reports of an attempted trade.

As far as I’m concerned though Bill can suck it. Is he trying to deplete the roster of talent?

Bill was losing control. Gronk was off the reservation so Bill probably had enough. It got Gronk back on track at least. And TB.

 

[Bruins29]

So our defense is just as awful as last year and we replaced the 130 receptions from Cooks/Amendola/Lewis with.....nothing.

That's exactly how they planned it. Yep, just got rid of them and did nothing

 

[BradyFTW!]

In his career, has Burkhead ever put together a streak of 8 consecutive uninjured quarters?

 

[supafly]

Belichick has destroyed this team’s morale.

How so? I mean, what’s changed from last year that would lead you to believe that Bill Belichick is ruining morale three games into the year? He’s reinstated Guerrero’s privileges, and has given both Brady and Gronk more money. Hell, the guy has twins playing in the secondary. You can’t have twins when you’re destroying team morale, right?

I think he’s made some questionable personnel decisions, when coupled with injuries, are showcasing our weaknesses on both sides of the ball.

 

[ViperGTS]

Gilmore had one bad play. Everything the other 2 did was dreadful.

I’m not even sure he blew that. The safety was guarding no one at the end. A crosser usually gets picked up by the free safety.

 

[Crazy Patriot Guy]

That's different, or then again maybe it's not cause we all know BB would have traded the #1 overall pick for more draft duds.

How is it different?