Patriots Have Called on Jeudy

[upstater1]

Yeah bill doesn't value offense that much. That's why he left Brady with scraps and arrogantly thought Patricia and Judge could coach offense because it's so easy!

But that's not how the league is trending. What's so dissapointing about that draft is that Bill ignored his scouts on Harry and drafted the ONLY receiver who couldn't plan....imagine if we got aj brown or deebo or DK metcalf

You say this but plenty of people thought NKeal was good and slated to go where he went. Metcalf on the other hand had a slew of detractors. Most of the league passed on Metcalf twice. I'd also mention that only 2 of the 9 WRs selected in the first 2 rounds signed 2nd contracts with the teams that picked them. 4 of the 9 ended up being good players. 5 of them were busts.

 

[Real fan 02]

The Patriots are one of the best 1st round drafters in the NFL.

It's what they excel at. 2nd round is a different story.

HITS:
Richard Seymour
Daniel Graham
Ty Warren
Vince Wilfork
Ben Watson
Logan Mankins
Jerod Mayo
Devin McCourty
Nate Solder
Chandler Jones
Donte Hightower

MID:
Brandon Meriweather
Malcolm Brown (32)
Sony Michel (31)

BUSTS:
Laurence Maroney (29)
Dominique Easley (32)
N'Keal Harry (32)
Isaiah Wynn

This is one of the best records in the NFL.

Compare it to the Bills over the same period (and realize the Bills were always picking in the top half of the draft while the Patriots frequently picked in the last 4):

HITS:
Nate Clements
Lee Evans
Marshawn Lynch
Eric Wood
Stephon Gilmore
Tre White
Josh Allen

MID:
Willis McGahee (An ACL injury bust for the Bills, he left Buffalo & resurrected his career)
Donte Whitner (8)
Marcell Dareus (3rd overall)

BUSTS:
Erik Flowers
Leodis McKelvin
Mike Williams (4)
JP Losman
John McCargo
Aaron Maybin
CJ Spiller (8)
EJ Manuel
Sammy Watkins (traded 2 #1s to pick him)
Shaq Lawson

The Patriots are one of the best 1st round drafters in the NFL.

It's what they excel at. 2nd round is a different story.

HITS:
Richard Seymour
Daniel Graham
Ty Warren
Vince Wilfork
Ben Watson
Logan Mankins
Jerod Mayo
Devin McCourty
Nate Solder
Chandler Jones
Donte Hightower

MID:
Brandon Meriweather
Malcolm Brown (32)
Sony Michel (31)

BUSTS:
Laurence Maroney (29)
Dominique Easley (32)
N'Keal Harry (32)
Isaiah Wynn

This is one of the best records in the NFL.

Compare it to the Bills over the same period (and realize the Bills were always picking in the top half of the draft while the Patriots frequently picked in the last 4):

HITS:
Nate Clements
Lee Evans
Marshawn Lynch
Eric Wood
Stephon Gilmore
Tre White
Josh Allen

MID:
Willis McGahee (An ACL injury bust for the Bills, he left Buffalo & resurrected his career)
Donte Whitner (8)
Marcell Dareus (3rd overall)

BUSTS:
Erik Flowers
Leodis McKelvin
Mike Williams (4)
JP Losman
John McCargo
Aaron Maybin
CJ Spiller (8)
EJ Manuel
Sammy Watkins (traded 2 #1s to pick him)
Shaq Lawson

Great stuff, I like when posters put up things like this... I'll say tre white isn't the all pro his was prior to the knee..

 

[upstater1]

I don't understand why any Pats fan would be under any illusion that we could succeed picking a WR high.

I would trust any of our scouts here over the Pats for that.

WRs in the NFL have a very high bust rate. If you only take one per decade, chances are they will bust.

More than 50% of the WRs taken in the 1st 3 rounds bust. Even the first round has a very low hit rate, below 50%. Even the best team in the league for drafting WRs (the Steelers) has a lot of busts in the top rounds. This is mainly a volume thing. No one really knows if it's a scouting team because we simply don't draft them high.

 

[Bill Lee]

The Patriots are one of the best 1st round drafters in the NFL.

It's what they excel at. 2nd round is a different story.

HITS:
Richard Seymour
Daniel Graham
Ty Warren
Vince Wilfork
Ben Watson
Logan Mankins
Jerod Mayo
Devin McCourty
Nate Solder
Chandler Jones
Donte Hightower

MID:
Brandon Meriweather
Malcolm Brown (32)
Sony Michel (31)

BUSTS:
Laurence Maroney (29)
Dominique Easley (32)
N'Keal Harry (32)
Isaiah Wynn

This is one of the best records in the NFL.

Compare it to the Bills over the same period (and realize the Bills were always picking in the top half of the draft while the Patriots frequently picked in the last 4):

HITS:
Nate Clements
Lee Evans
Marshawn Lynch
Eric Wood
Stephon Gilmore
Tre White
Josh Allen

MID:
Willis McGahee (An ACL injury bust for the Bills, he left Buffalo & resurrected his career)
Donte Whitner (8)
Marcell Dareus (3rd overall)

BUSTS:
Erik Flowers
Leodis McKelvin
Mike Williams (4)
JP Losman
John McCargo
Aaron Maybin
CJ Spiller (8)
EJ Manuel
Sammy Watkins (traded 2 #1s to pick him)
Shaq Lawson

Great post!

People need to be reminded that:
(a) first round picks are not guaranteed to be good, and
(b) late first round is a very different place than early first round.

 

[Brotherblues]

The Patriots are one of the best 1st round drafters in the NFL.

It's what they excel at. 2nd round is a different story.

HITS:
Richard Seymour
Daniel Graham
Ty Warren
Vince Wilfork
Ben Watson
Logan Mankins
Jerod Mayo
Devin McCourty
Nate Solder
Chandler Jones
Donte Hightower

MID:
Brandon Meriweather
Malcolm Brown (32)
Sony Michel (31)

BUSTS:
Laurence Maroney (29)
Dominique Easley (32)
N'Keal Harry (32)
Isaiah Wynn

This is one of the best records in the NFL.

Compare it to the Bills over the same period (and realize the Bills were always picking in the top half of the draft while the Patriots frequently picked in the last 4):

HITS:
Nate Clements
Lee Evans
Marshawn Lynch
Eric Wood
Stephon Gilmore
Tre White
Josh Allen

MID:
Willis McGahee (An ACL injury bust for the Bills, he left Buffalo & resurrected his career)
Donte Whitner (8)
Marcell Dareus (3rd overall)

BUSTS:
Erik Flowers
Leodis McKelvin
Mike Williams (4)
JP Losman
John McCargo
Aaron Maybin
CJ Spiller (8)
EJ Manuel
Sammy Watkins (traded 2 #1s to pick him)
Shaq Lawson

A list that shows our most recent 1st round hit being 11 years ago is kind of a free meal for those who are most critical of the team's drafting.

 

[upstater1]

A list that shows our most recent 1st round hit being 11 years ago is kind of a free meal for those who are most critical of the team's drafting.

Nope. Not really.

You have to look at WHERE people were picked and the fact we didn't HAVE 1st round picks.

Look at the slots pre-2013: 6, 21, 13, 21, 32, 32, 21, 24, 10, 21, 17, 21, 25.

SINCE THEN: 29, 32, 23, 31, 32.

This makes a HUGE difference. AND, there are only 5 picks total compared to 13 prior. BUT EVEN then, in the latter years, only 1 first rounder was made before the final 4 picks (due to the consecutive years in championship games). Just 1 pick. That's it. Compare it to all those years prior: 11 picks.

That's a huge difference.

11 picks in the first 2/3rds of the first round pre-2013. 1 pick post 2013.

I'd have much less of a problem trading for Jeudy if we were giving up the #32 pick. After all, we once traded that pick for Brandin Cooks.

(I obviously didn't count the last 2 drafts since it remains to be seen whether these players are busts or not).

 

[Joey007]

A 2nd and Bourne. If they got Jeudy then there's not much need for Bourne and we could get rid of his contract.

Go into next season with:

WR 1. - Jeudy - can play inside or outside. Good route runner with good speed/athleticism
WR 2. - Ju Ju - slot receiver. Play Myers role with better ability to run after catch
WR 3/4. - Thornton - speed receiver. Hopefully can make a lot of progress this year
WR 3/4. - Parker - outside receiver, Hopefully stays healthy

That would be the best WR core we've had in about 6 years or so.

I’m more of a second and Parker for Jeudy guy.

Think more cap is cleared by sending off Parker. Plus Parker has more issues staying healthy. I like Bourne in that 3rd/4th receiver role. Let Jeudy and Thornton play the perimeters. We also now have Gesicki to be the bigger bodied presence that would be lost in Parker.

 

[BUSTAMOVE]

I’m more of a second and Parker for Jeudy guy.

Think more cap is cleared by sending off Parker. Plus Parker has more issues staying healthy. I like Bourne in that 3rd/4th receiver role. Let Jeudy and Thornton play the perimeters. We also now have Gesicki to be the bigger bodied presence that would be lost in Parker.

I like Bourne much more than Parker. As you stated injury seems to always be an issue.
I want Jeudy but JuJu, Bourne and Gesicki are all more or less big slot guys. Jeudy can also line up as a big slot.
As much as I don’t like it, Bourne will have to be in the trade. He would have limited playing time

 

[Sciz]

I’m more of a second and Parker for Jeudy guy.

Think more cap is cleared by sending off Parker. Plus Parker has more issues staying healthy. I like Bourne in that 3rd/4th receiver role. Let Jeudy and Thornton play the perimeters. We also now have Gesicki to be the bigger bodied presence that would be lost in Parker.

I don’t think the Broncos would have any interest in Parker. They already have two veteran 6’4” outside guys.

 

[stcjones]

I wouldn't trade our first for Jeudy. BUT I bet Jeudy is better than any receiver in this draft.

Even after his injury!?

 

[Ian]

 

[Sully]

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Jeudy go for a 2nd near or during the draft.

 

[Joey007]

I don’t think the Broncos would have any interest in Parker. They already have two veteran 6’4” outside guys.

Good point. But maybe they would still, considering Tim Patrick is coming off of a torn ACL?

But yeah, Bourne fits the mold of the type of WR they would need in their offense. If Denver only accepts the trade including Bourne, I’d still be willing to pull the trigger on it. Just would prefer to keep him if possible.

 

[duc359]

Jeudy not an X. No. '23 Draft weak for X. Big time boundary guy coming in '24.

 

[Steve102]

Not sure if this was posted earlier.

 

[captain stone]

Not sure if this was posted earlier.

Yeah a first-rounder's out of the question... But if the Donkeys were to pick up his option then eat at least a third of it, I would trade #46 for him.

That gives Mac & Jeudy two years to get their **** together, and for us to determine if they're worth keeping longer than that...

 

[Steve102]

Yeah a first-rounder's out of the question... But if the Donkeys were to pick up his option then eat at least a third of it, I would trade #46 for him.

That gives Mac & Jeudy two years to get their **** together, and for us to determine if they're worth keeping longer than that...

I agree, but why would they do that? Better to just let him play out his deal and maybe he will stay. What's his compensatory pick if he leaves next year?

 

[50-yard-line]

I'm trying to figure out why Denver wants to trade him at all. If he's really worth a first round pick, why would they not keep him?

I doubt they're getting a first, certainly not a high first.

 

[Love The Drake]

I'm trying to figure out why Denver wants to trade him at all. If he's really worth a first round pick, why would they not keep him?

I doubt they're getting a first, certainly not a high first.

They don’t want to but like any teams will listen ti the right offer.

 

[upstater1]

I'm trying to figure out why Denver wants to trade him at all. If he's really worth a first round pick, why would they not keep him?

I doubt they're getting a first, certainly not a high first.

He's going to command a huge contract and they're paying for Russell Wilson. The team needs cheap good players (thru draft picks) because they're handcuffed. Jeudy is going to get $20m a year on the open market.