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LOL, just ask the contingent in Buffalo who want them to go find the next guy because they think he's not the answer. I wonder if Buffalo has their version of Felger and Maz, because I can't imagine what they must be saying to feed that notion given the last two seasons.
He won the division three years in a row. He's also won several playoff games. He's made the Pro Bowl the last three years. He set the league record in QB rating in the post-season 2021. He's the first quarterback with 375+ pass yards, 3+ pass touchdowns, 0 interceptions and a 130+ QB rating in multiple games in a single season. He's had the most rushing touchdowns by a quarterback, first 50 starts. He's the first quarterback in history with at least 100 touchdown passes and 30 rushing touchdowns in first four seasons. He's the first quarterback to have 300 passing yards, 60 rushing yards, and five touchdowns passes in a playoff game.
Literally 2 out of his 3 division wins have come in years where we had Cam Newton at QB and Matt Patricia as an OC. The other one was a division title by 1 win when we had a rookie QB. He had zero competition. The rest are just meaningless single game records. He has won 0 conference championships, zero Super Bowl rings, zero MVP awards, zero 1st Team All-Pro honors, zero real accomplishments. The kid flat out sucks as an NFL QB.
You shouldn't drink so early in the morning.
The only thing I am drinking is your tears, and they are delicious.
I think lack of talent has been a major factor over the last 3 seasons. And if you think O'Brien is only good enough for a 2-game swing in the record then that's not really an optimistic outlook in my view. I don't disagree with that assessment either.
We'd be better off if we never had Jonnu for those two seasons. He wasn't that good in Tennessee, he's just been completely worthless for the Patriots, and honestly I'm skeptical O'Brien can salvage him.
You're not being fair at least. Or worse you're just blatantly misrepresenting what I said. I specifically mentioned Judon, that's a fact.
I probably was the very first poster to label Patricia a dumpster fire. I said it the very second he was promoted to OC. If I recall correctly, you gave me a hard time for being a "Belichick hater agenda pusher." Go figure.
I've said a hundred times that I like Henry. He's a good TE. He needs a counterpart TE1b across from him for it to really work (or at least a true WR1 on the field at the same time).
If Jalen Mills is one of our "best players" then we're in deep doo-doo. He's not better than average.
You left out that Allen rushed for 910 more yards and 16 more rushing TDs.
Mac was a rookie in 2021. They went from the 6th scoring offense to the 25th scoring offense this season but you don’t think offensive coaching is why… sounds legit.
His defense was ranked 28th in the NFL, Tom wouldn’t have saved him.
In hindsight and including coaching I agree. I also think talent on the field had nothing to do with their offense ranking near dead last in pre-snap penalties.
We won’t find out now, it’s a deep TE draft. We’ll see what Obie can do with what’s handed to him.
He’s better than average, that’s why the defense has been ranked 2nd and 3rd best in the NFL in scoring allowed since he’s been here. Results matter more than the opinion of someone who is constantly telling us our best players suck.
Allen would make a fine RB. But he isn't taking his team anywhere as a QB. That much has already been established. He doesn't have the football IQ or consistent accuracy that someone like Mac Jones does. He also doesn't have that clutch gene.
You left out the most consequential INT (the same one you were able to omit from the red zone picks by 1 yard). The one that killed the opening drive of the second half with the game tied 14-14. The INT floated right into the hands of Tre'Davious White. Fortunately the Patriots got the ball right back in great field position on a fumble by Singletary but they unfortunately settled for a FG.
I'm also told one of his other "best games" came against the Ravens when he had 0 TDs and 3 INTs. So in his two best games he had 3 TDs and 6 INTs... Is that what we're going with?
Agreed. And if Mac's the guy for 2023 at least then I'm all about building around him. The team desperately needs to improve the WR corps, which again I don't think was that bad last season, but with who I think is an average QB, the supporting cast needs to be well above average.
Come on, I can't take you seriously with stuff like this. Josh Allen could be the best dual threat QB the league has ever seen. He led the NFL in game-winning drives in 2019 (when I'm told he sucked). He's been a multi-season MVP candidate. Allen sucked in the divisional game against the Bengals this postseason but that was his first bad postseason game out of 8. Heading in this postseason he had 14 TDs and 1 INT (he's at 17 TDs and 4 INTs now).
He has won nothing of note in this league. He sucks as a QB. I concede that he would be a fine RB. Maybe even a dominant one.
Coaching, period, from the head coach to his appointed offensive coordinator. Royally screwed up the offense. We agree on that. Where we differ is I'm not going to absolve Mac of any blame and I'm not convinced O'Brien alone can make enough of a difference to turn it around.
They don't blow multiple (if any) double digit leads with Brady at quarterback. Brady has never lost a regular season game with a 14 or more point halftime lead. 0 times in 333 starts. The Raiders were 0-4 when leading by double digits at halftime this season. (Not a perfect comparison but I couldn't find Brady's exact career numbers with a double digit lead at halftime.)
lol Mills doesn't suck. I said he's average. The defense has more impactful players than him.
lol you're funny at least.
So none of the recent matchups count at all? Putting them all in the trash because Mac was a rookie and Patricia is an incompetent.
Well, the bolded part is true, at least. I did say that, and it was 100% factual.
That you would resort to fabricating posts gives me the automatic W.
Is this your version of waving the white flag?
Mac is not alone, Zappe is there also. The Pats also have 11 draft picks if they want to increase competition in camp.
Brady can't make the 28th worst defense better... no matter what fantasies you believe. This isn't Rudy.
Better than average, I agree the defense has more impactful players than him. That's how you have a defense that gives up the 3rd fewest points in the NFL despite having an offense that can't sustain a drive or score. They just don't have another big CB which is something they have to address this offseason.
