OT Euro 2021 soccer

[masterbouncer]

Ya, no violence in Italian soccer

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Fan Violence Runs Deep in Italian Society

Some fans say the stadiums have been turned into war zones.

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whataboutism at its best!

First, you are refering to club supporters (not national team) like the fascist fans from Lazio and the ultras that are close to the mafia (Ndrangheta, Camorra, etc) all of them use some football clubs for their own benefit and are not that much related to italian national team supporters or soccer itself

Second, it is not related at all to what I was writing, whats your point? you want to defend what the english "supporters" did during an international national teams tournament by refering to something completely unrelated to the italian national team and their supporters behaviour during the Euro 2021?

whats the point? italians have violante supporters and violance in their country? yes they do, they have even quite a good amount of fascist and what you call conservatives, but the line is pretty thin nowadays..
have italian supporters revealed themselves as animals to the world during EURO2021?
NO! They didn't, it was only England and the rasicst Orbans in Budapest

are you somehow related to England or Englishmen yourself and just try to relativize everything what they did instead just to accept it and feel bad for how your country was represented outside of the island?

 

[Boomer B]

whataboutism at its best!

First, you are refering to club supporters (not national team) like the fascist fans from Lazio and the ultras that are close to the mafia (Ndrangheta, Camorra, etc) all of them use some football clubs for their own benefit and are not that much related to italian national team supporters or soccer itself

Second, it is not related at all to what I was writing, whats your point? you want to defend what the english "supporters" did during an international national teams tournament by refering to something completely unrelated to the italian national team and their supporters behaviour during the Euro 2021?

whats the point? italians have violante supporters and violance in their country? yes they do, they have even quite a good amount of fascist and what you call conservatives, but the line is pretty thin nowadays..
have italian supporters revealed themselves as animals to the world during EURO2021?
NO! They didn't, it was only England and the rasicst Orbans in Budapest

are you somehow related to England or Englishmen yourself and just try to relativize everything what they did instead just to accept it and feel bad for how your country was represented outside of the island?

Read your first post. Yelling and screaming like a child. “****ing animals, lowest form of a living beeing, thats why noone likes them anywhere in the world. football is at home when it is not on this damn island!”

Once again, yes, the violence and racism that happened Sunday was ugly and should never happen. Black mark on England.

What I’m saying is this is isn’t only an England problem. It’s a problem all over Europe. You can yell and scream no one likes England and that they should never get a tournament again, but it doesn’t change the fact this kind of stuff has happened all over Europe. The violence and riots were much worse in France Euro’s 2016.

Italy

already listed many acts of violence and racism

France

riots during Euro’s 2016 and also violence in league play

Marseille fans spark fiery riot, storm training ground in protest; Alvaro Gonzalez hit by flying projectile

Rennes clash off after OM supporters storm Commanderie facility to demand change

www.cbssports.com

Germany

German police say many hurt in violence after Dresden game

DRESDEN, Germany (AP) — Police in the German city of Dresden said Monday that 185 of their officers were hurt in clashes with fans celebrating third-tier soccer club Dynamo Dresden being promoted.

apnews.com

Borussia Dortmund, Hertha Berlin probed by German FA after fan violence

The German Football Association opened an investigation into the actions of Borussia Dortmund and Hertha Berlin fams following incidents on Sunday.

www.espn.com

German soccer officials fear repeat of fans’ Nazi chants in Norway qualifier

Reinhard Grindel to seek tighter controls on ticketing after fans yell 'Sieg Heil' during match against Czech Republic, embarrassing team

www.timesofisrael.com

Russia (maybe the worst)

The rise of Russia’s neo-Nazi football hooligans

The long read: For the past two decades the Russian state has encouraged groups of violent far-right fans. As the World Cup approaches, it is struggling to tame them. By Simon Parkin

www.theguardian.com

Russian hooligans in World Cup crackdown after 2016 rampage

Russian hooligans are notorious for their attacks on English fans at the 2016 European Championship, but ahead of the World Cup they're facing a crackdown from the authorities.

apnews.com

 

[resdubwhite]

Ah, well, I see. It happens -- and in the other direction too (digging up Irish -- or Nigerian -- grannies).

Except they were both capped by ireland

 

[masterbouncer]

Read your first post. Yelling and screaming like a child. “****ing animals, lowest form of a living beeing, thats why noone likes them anywhere in the world. football is at home when it is not on this damn island!”

Once again, yes, the violence and racism that happened Sunday was ugly and should never happen. Black mark on England.

What I’m saying is this is isn’t only an England problem. It’s a problem all over Europe. You can yell and scream no one likes England and that they should never get a tournament again, but it doesn’t change the fact this kind of stuff has happened all over Europe. The violence and riots were much worse in France Euro’s 2016.

Italy

already listed many acts of violence and racism

France

riots during Euro’s 2016 and also violence in league play

Marseille fans spark fiery riot, storm training ground in protest; Alvaro Gonzalez hit by flying projectile

Rennes clash off after OM supporters storm Commanderie facility to demand change

www.cbssports.com

Germany

German police say many hurt in violence after Dresden game

DRESDEN, Germany (AP) — Police in the German city of Dresden said Monday that 185 of their officers were hurt in clashes with fans celebrating third-tier soccer club Dynamo Dresden being promoted.

apnews.com

Borussia Dortmund, Hertha Berlin probed by German FA after fan violence

The German Football Association opened an investigation into the actions of Borussia Dortmund and Hertha Berlin fams following incidents on Sunday.

www.espn.com

German soccer officials fear repeat of fans’ Nazi chants in Norway qualifier

Reinhard Grindel to seek tighter controls on ticketing after fans yell 'Sieg Heil' during match against Czech Republic, embarrassing team

www.timesofisrael.com

Russia (maybe the worst)

The rise of Russia’s neo-Nazi football hooligans

The long read: For the past two decades the Russian state has encouraged groups of violent far-right fans. As the World Cup approaches, it is struggling to tame them. By Simon Parkin

www.theguardian.com

Russian hooligans in World Cup crackdown after 2016 rampage

Russian hooligans are notorious for their attacks on English fans at the 2016 European Championship, but ahead of the World Cup they're facing a crackdown from the authorities.

apnews.com

yes, Euro 2016 was bad, guess what, England "supporters" - as usual - were involved in riots there when they fought with russian "fans" in Marseille, what a surprise isn't it?

Euro 2016: England and Russia fans clash before and after match

One England supporter seriously injured in Marseille after being kicked repeatedly in the head, while another is reported to be in critical condition

www.theguardian.com

yeah you can come again with links of other clubs from around europe to prove that others are bad as well, it doesn't make the behaviour of many english fans better during this Euro2021 just because Lazio, Dynamo, or others have right wing hooligan supporters as well

we are not talking here about Millwall and West Ham fan fights neither, when it comes to it, England banned like half the country from soccer stadiums and increased the ticket prices so only rich people that can behave can afford to buy tickets and kept the others out because it was a cultural problem that each sunday club supporters met at the stadium to kill each other, no country has had it that bad, but whatever

 

[ToonPatriot]

Out of interest @masterbouncer where are you from?

 

[Triumph]

England always loses.

The real show is their drunk hooligan fanbase.

 

[masterbouncer]

Out of interest @masterbouncer where are you from?

Europe

 

[Tony2046]

Europe

????

 

[Scotty]

Dont know what to believe , can you be sure of what is posted online or in newspapers !!! This was from a newspaper and I had also heard this on TV news.....

Most of the racist trolling of England footballers has come from accounts based overseas, according to expert analysis.
Around 70% of the hateful posts, images and emojis posted after the Euro 2020 defeat are said to have been from social media users outside the UK.

This is way beyond my knowledge of what is possible in social media

 

[Tony2046]

Dont know what to believe , can you be sure of what is posted online or in newspapers !!! This was from a newspaper and I had also heard this on TV news.....

Most of the racist trolling of England footballers has come from accounts based overseas, according to expert analysis.
Around 70% of the hateful posts, images and emojis posted after the Euro 2020 defeat are said to have been from social media users outside the UK.

This is way beyond my knowledge of what is possible in social media

Who knows in today's world?