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    Go back to the past 30 NBA champions. With few exceptions, the team that had the best player won.
     
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    Jackson and Brown don't necessarily fill the same role. There's some feeling the Brown's future lies mostly at SG, whereas Jackson is definitely a 3.
     
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    Is Fultz a legit superstar?
     
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    Yeah that was my point, im not saying that truly great players can win without any help at all, even Jordan had Pippen and others. But i dont think wiggins has the capability to put a mediocre team on his back and carry them far the way a guy like lebron can, or even a harden or westbrook to a lesser extent. I see him as a guy with infinite talent that needs someone else to be the lead dog on the team, and i get a very similar vibe with Fultz

    Hell the Twolves have a guy in KAT whos already arguably the best center in the game and they can barely win 30 games with both of those young studs
     
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    Griffin isn't much of a rim protector anymore. Or even that great a rebounder.

    Philly bigs worth a damn are Embid and Saric. They aren't giving you either of them. That leaves Okafor who is hot garbage. If you get the Lakers 2018 unprotected pick, that stands to give you two (with Brkn 18) of the best shots at high picks in a draft next year loaded with bigs, and in particular with 3 really really good bigs.
     
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    Jaylen Brown rookie year: .454 shooting. .341 3 point shooting.
     
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    To me, the NBA landscape is forever changed. Superteams arent just the present, theyre the future as well. That means that in order for the Celtics to be contenders both now and in the future, they need to adapt to the times and try to bring in as many established stars as possible to compete with the rising trend of super teams that they helped create a decade ago.

    If they think they can just wait out the Warriors and Cavs and then superteams will go away, theyll be sadly mistaken. The one time they built a superteam they got instant gratification in 2008, and with all the ammo they have i say the time is now to try it again

    And to everyone worried itll screw them over long term, remember after the big 3 era ended that this team had to go thru exactly one rebuilding season before immediately becoming a playoff team and eventually top eastern conference team again
     
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    You're trying to talk reason to someone utterly irrational.
     
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    Thanks for the clarification but the point is that as a freshman, Bird wasn't going to play had he stayed, mainly because he had juniors and seniors in front of him. Comparing a 5th year senior Bird to a freshman Fultz is a false comparison (and yes the main problem is that these kids enter the NBA way too early. Rare is the player who can come in as a freshman and make an immediate impact).
     
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    They're both 6'7" ish wings who don't have the quicks to play the 2 against top talent, who can't shoot, and who aren't big enough to muscle in with 4s or bigger 3s. Could one of them develop beyond that, in theory? Sure. Is it likely for either or them? No, it's much more likely that they'll fit as tweener type players (Which seems to be a Brad Stevens specialty, so I'm not saying it's automatically a bad thing) who will give up in negatives a lot of what they can bring you in positives.
     
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    Who is offering this piece of info?
     
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    I have hope.
     
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    Anyone who says yes is lying but he's got the tools.

    With that said I love the kids game. Love his ****iness. He has a chance to be elite.
     
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    In college?; Hell, it happens all the time these days.
     
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    Forgive me if this point has been made, but last year, Chicago leaked that the Butler deal was close to rule up the Celts fanbase to pressure DA to get the deal done while secretly demanding an insane amount. I wonder if Ainge is using this strategy on Colangelo to incite Philly following that is sick of losing but sees the light at the end of the tunnel to demand this gets done?
     
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    They are getting the assets for a big trade and splash..PG ect
     
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    "and now, here comes superstar Lebron! ...just look at superstar as he drives the lane!! he lowers his shoulder...one step...another..another..another...he lowers his left shoulder into the defender and pushes him off with his left arm to create space...another step...and LOOK AT [email protected]!!! Lebron DUNKS! Unbelievable!!! Now THAT'S real basketball right there folks...this is why you pay all that money to sit a half mile away eating 5 dollar mini dogs and 8 dollar beers...WHAT A SHOW!"
     
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    If executives run their sports administration to appease what fans want, they should immediately resign.
     
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    With all due respect, your original, wildly incorrect claim that Bird sat on the bench for a full freshman season at Indiana invalidates your opinion on any of this. Try commenting on professional rodeo.
     
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