OT: Augmented QBs?

[PatsFanInVa]

So here's a question: is there any rule against a heads-up display that reads coverage and gives the QB a read of what's going on? It seems like a deep learning algorithm could be trained without even identifying the supposed formations, and not just learn the other guy's D as a human would read it, but read it without preconceptions, like that alphago thing did with the game "go." Very handy for "picking up" disguised coverages, blitzes, etc.

So all that crap aside, let's say it can be helpful, real-time. What in the rule book says a QB can't be augmented by a robot overlord?

 

[cmasspatsfan]

It's being done now, the robot goes by the nickname TB12.

 

[Wheelman]

It's like the start of the movie, The 6th day.

I can't find a good clip of it unfortunately. But it's got some pre-snap stuff with the HUD identifying a possible blitz and stuff.

 

[XLIX]

So here's a question: is there any rule against a heads-up display that reads coverage and gives the QB a read of what's going on? It seems like a deep learning algorithm could be trained without even identifying the supposed formations, and not just learn the other guy's D as a human would read it, but read it without preconceptions, like that alphago thing did with the game "go." Very handy for "picking up" disguised coverages, blitzes, etc.

So all that crap aside, let's say it can be helpful, real-time. What in the rule book says a QB can't be augmented by a robot overlord?

You may not use electronic devices except those specifically approved by the league and the only thing they approved is the Coach/Coordinator to QB radio.

Of course, the NY Giants do not have to obey this rule, so maybe you're on to something for them....

 

[Joker]

I remember when they played real football....

 

[IcyPatriot]

 

[IcyPatriot]

 

[BobDigital]

When it comes to technology the interesting things will come when they augment the human body. Imagine a person who can run 50 or maybe 100 miles per hour. All past records would become completely meaningless when such nano-tech and robotic additions exist.

As for saying it will never be added to the game that is likely untrue. People will not tune in to see athletes doing things well below what they can do with such upgrades which will be common.

 

[Observer]

So here's a question: is there any rule against a heads-up display that reads coverage and gives the QB a read of what's going on? It seems like a deep learning algorithm could be trained without even identifying the supposed formations, and not just learn the other guy's D as a human would read it, but read it without preconceptions, like that alphago thing did with the game "go." Very handy for "picking up" disguised coverages, blitzes, etc.

So all that crap aside, let's say it can be helpful, real-time. What in the rule book says a QB can't be augmented by a robot overlord?

Why not replace the Qb with a robot?

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

It's being done now, the robot goes by the nickname TB12.

 

[Observer]

It's being done now, the robot goes by the nickname TB12.

Just saw this after I made my post.

 

[Joker]

Gawd I hate that scumbag Peytie Poochning so much...this rat ba$tard scumbag stole the REAL GOAT'S spotlight like the hammy huckster he's always been...imagine, THAT choking LOSER uttered in the same breath as Tom Brady....should be grounds for immediate euthanasia.

 

[turkeyneck]

Interesting topic. I've thought that a VR trainer for new Pats WRs would be very helpful in learning the route tree. Seems an excellent way to learn the complications of the Patriots route tree. I think the "see and do" approach would have helped OchoCinco a lot. Can you imagine a new receiver running through a route with TB talking him through it in real time?

 

[fourhour]

I remember when they played real football....

Aw yeah, before they invented grass!

 

[DarrylS]

Ernie Adams in the booth....

 

[jah]

Hell yeah, someone on Patsfans brought up machine learning and AI.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

When it comes to technology the interesting things will come when they augment the human body. Imagine a person who can run 50 or maybe 100 miles per hour. All past records would become completely meaningless when such nano-tech and robotic additions exist.

I don't know whether the "average" guy will be able to get the "Johnny Bionic Commando Kit" at the local sporting goods story, then nobody will watch athletics.

But what becomes of a collision sport like football in general? Because ain't nothin' in smart tech. that will make a 100-mph collision easily survivable. Whole different tech. All AI can do is train a robot to avoid the collision - and as we're seeing with cars, telling you and having you avoid it is way slower than just avoiding it itself, once it knows how to.

As for saying it will never be added to the game that is likely untrue. People will not tune in to see athletes doing things well below what they can do with such upgrades which will be common.

For the read augmentation, hard-core fans would pay for the feed so they can see what a QB sees, or some subset... and we'll all know that the QB in question did/did not respond quickly and accurately to the outputs in the visor.

Good point in general though... just because it's impossible to augment football players while keeping them alive (e.g., to run 100 mph,) doesn't mean that people won't be able to augment themselves. If/when we get to that point, football will be the only place where the augmentation would be missing. Then the only real solution will be to remove the soft squishy human athlete.

Which sucks, because BattleBots is already a show.

I hope there's, say, 20 more years left in the game. If I'm still alive after 20, I hope I'm crotchety enough not to care after that.

 

[Nehalem]

I would think the real use would be to use virtual reality to enable QBs to learn to read a defense without having having to have 21 other people playing.

Imagine what Brady could do if he could spend the entire off-season taking reps against a virtual defense?

 

[Wheelman]

Gawd I hate that scumbag Peytie Poochning so much...this rat ba$tard scumbag stole the REAL GOAT'S spotlight like the hammy huckster he's always been...imagine, THAT choking LOSER uttered in the same breath as Tom Brady....should be grounds for immediate euthanasia.

Don't forget he's a cheater and sexually assaults his trainer and re-abuses the trainer over and over with the help of his father. But hey let's just build a statue for him...