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I agree completely. I'm frustrated over such hardo poseurs as Felger/Mazz whining that Maye "didn't make a difference" in an effort at appearing more "sophisticated" or something than fans who saw Maye's start in a positive light. If these "professional analysts" have lost the ability to see the positive, maybe it's time for them to retire or something. It's certainly time for me to ignore them.

Says Mr. Super Positive himself
 
for his 1st start not bad...however all our scores game on long broken plays...which are definitely great to have, but can't rely on them

he kinda has the Mahomes ability of making something awesome out of nothing just going off of this one game...would like to see the normal play situation success carry over
They weren’t broken plays. They were perfectly executed pass plays.
 
As encouraging as the on field play was, his intangibles were more impressive. He was calm and determined on the field whether he just threw a bad interception or his first NFL TD. His post game comments were focused on losing the game not his personal accomplishments. He is the real deal who already has the locker room in his corner. No doubt there will be rough moments for a while. I am confident that Maye has the fortitude to learn from mistakes without getting discouraged or scared.
 
I don’t think Wallace is ready to start, maybe at right tackle, but I haven’t seen enough of him there
I’m assuming Strange is going to be tried out at center after all the time off I have no idea what he’ll be like
I would have Onwenu RT, Lowe LT I guess it is Sow, Jordan Guards and Strange center
I just don’t think any of the other tackle ideas are great. I’m not convinced yet that Lowe would hold up and Onwenu is ideally a guard but there in dire need of adding a tackle and they don’t have it so I think that’s the best lineup as of today
Make sure you add a tackle, assuming low can handle one of the sides. And you can move Onwenu back inside with Sow and Strange

Wallace and Jacobs as swing tackles I guess for this year, just a lack of quality players and depth at the tackle positions
I've probably never seen an OL with this many injuries, and that's saying something. I'm gonna guess that Sow will be at full strength next week vs the Jags, which may mean that Onwenu moves back to RT (i.e., Sow in, Jacobs out). Possibly in that scenario Jacobs moves back to LT and Thomas sits.

Let's hope that Lowe can return in 2 weeks vs the Jets. He would replace whoever is at LT (Thomas or Jacobs).

Also let's hope that Wallace & Strange can return in 4 weeks vs the Bears. If the rumors are true that Strange will play C, then he replaces Brown. Not sure if Wallace is good enough yet to be our RT (which moves Onwenu to RG and Jordan to the bench). If he is, then our line in week 10 would be Lowe-Sow-Strange-Onwenu-Wallace, which would be interesting.
 
As encouraging as the on field play was, his intangibles were more impressive. He was calm and determined on the field whether he just threw a bad interception or his first NFL TD. His post game comments were focused on losing the game not his personal accomplishments. He is the real deal who already has the locker room in his corner. No doubt there will be rough moments for a while. I am confident that Maye has the fortitude to learn from mistakes without getting discouraged or scared.
BB compared him to Andrew Luck.

 
?? Is C Wallace on IR-DTR??
 
Says Mr. Super Positive himself
It is equally foolish to be unreflectively or disingenuously positive as it is to be unreflectively or disingenuously negative. I have no interest in either. Emerson: "Speak what you think today in hard words and tomorrow speak what tomorrow thinks in hard words again." In other words, we should be afraid neither to say what we think nor to change our minds. Give a listen to Mazz and Felger after Maye's debut. Felger isn't saying what he thinks at all: he is merely saying what he believes the asinine character he plays on radio would say, as if that person genuinely exists, which he does not.

 
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It is equally foolish to be unreflectively or disingenuously positive as it is to be unreflectively or disingenuously negative. I have no interest in either. Emerson: "Speak what you think today in hard words and tomorrow speak what tomorrow thinks in hard words again." In other words, we should be afraid neither to say what we think nor to change our minds. Give a listen to Mazz and Felger after Maye's debut. Felger isn't saying what he thinks at all: he is merely saying what he believes the asinine character he plays on radio would say, as if that person genuinely exists, which he does not.

You lost me there. Does that mean you didn't like him?
 
It is equally foolish to be unreflectively or disingenuously positive as it is to be unreflectively or disingenuously negative. I have no interest in either. Emerson: "Speak what you think today in hard words and tomorrow speak what tomorrow thinks in hard words again." In other words, we should be afraid neither to say what we think nor to change our minds. Give a listen to Mazz and Felger after Maye's debut. Felger isn't saying what he thinks at all: he is merely saying what he believes the asinine character he plays on radio would say, as if that person genuinely exists, which he does not.

I listen to Felger and Mazz without doing psychoanalysis. If I don't like the topic I turn the station, if I find the discussion interesting I listen for awhile.
 
One thing I expect to see going from this point on is opposing defenses will stop disrespecting us by playing only a single high safety to cover the deep field. The presence of Maye will force defenses to spread out and start playing honest.
 
I agree completely. I'm frustrated over such hardo poseurs as Felger/Mazz whining that Maye "didn't make a difference" in an effort at appearing more "sophisticated" or something than fans who saw Maye's start in a positive light. If these "professional analysts" have lost the ability to see the positive, maybe it's time for them to retire or something. It's certainly time for me to ignore them.
I came across the Felger and Mazz commentary. It's a joke, and that should be final straw for them and everyone should know it. BBBBBBUT they didn't WIN! Thats all I care about!

F off Felger. You were quietly hoping he would have had the Williams stat line so he could throw it in everyone's faces that Maye isn't that guy etc etc. It's a tired, old shtick and the sooner those two losers are gone the better. Most of the shows in Boston need an enema in a big way. Now I don't know what people here voices are etc but you'd get a hell of a lot better content.
 
I came across the Felger and Mazz commentary. It's a joke, and that should be final straw for them and everyone should know it. BBBBBBUT they didn't WIN! Thats all I care about!

F off Felger. You were quietly hoping he would have had the Williams stat line so he could throw it in everyone's faces that Maye isn't that guy etc etc. It's a tired, old shtick and the sooner those two losers are gone the better. Most of the shows in Boston need an enema in a big way. Now I don't know what people here voices are etc but you'd get a hell of a lot better content.
This take is classic Felger which means that it is for entertainment purposes only. He heard everyone else saying good things so he had to be contrarian. Unless his ratings drop he is not going anywhere.
 
One thing I expect to see going from this point on is opposing defenses will stop disrespecting us by playing only a single high safety to cover the deep field. The presence of Maye will force defenses to spread out and start playing honest.
Which will open up a lot.
 
One thing I expect to see going from this point on is opposing defenses will stop disrespecting us by playing only a single high safety to cover the deep field. The presence of Maye will force defenses to spread out and start playing honest.
What a difference a QB who can throw over 8 yards make. I hope we never see Brissett behind Center again on this Team Mediocre QB.
 
Which will open up a lot.
Pop Douglas will be open alot he's going have over 1000yds receiving with Drake and good health.
 
I did not watch all the tape but was curious to see how Maye did... I was caught up at work couldnt watch the game and this popped up on youtube...



I dont think I've ever seen a QB get swarmed as bad as Maye did in that game. Very few snaps that he had a clean pocket...
 
I did not watch all the tape but was curious to see how Maye did... I was caught up at work couldnt watch the game and this popped up on youtube...



I dont think I've ever seen a QB get swarmed as bad as Maye did in that game. Very few snaps that he had a clean pocket...

I don't think that was as bad as a couple of the other games. On the strip sack I had the sack ocuring at 2.88 seconds of pocket time.
 
nice tackle on the 1st INT

his ability to make plays when things break down/extend plays is very Allen/Mahomes like.......once he makes all of the throws off that ability with confidence, he's going to be dangerous.......this as a starting point is encouraging

i liked that when he decided to actually run the ball, he ran the ball........but he def looked to move around in the pocket, stay behind the line, and still make the throws......this is something a lot of the pure "running QBs" don't do, they feel a little pressure and they get their rabbitt on......Maye didn't do this; when he felt the run was the best option, he tended to get north & south and made some good gains; but he looked to extend the play and make the throw first, and this was encouraging
 
Drake Maye All-22 Review
I usually do the receivers and QB in the same post but there were so many more pass plays this week and really want to talk about Drake!
Will get the bad plays and couple of maybe not great plays out of the way.
-Interception, just an overthrow, when he misses it will be high, just how this type of thrower throws the ball, same as Herbert. Can work on some release mechanics in the off-season to minimize that more.
-Ball tipped on HH comeback route, no interference because tipped but Henry was held at top of route, delaying the comeback and the pass. Should have been a hold before the pass.
-He threw behind Hooper in a cross, maybe he was sitting Hooper down to not get crushed but think he just did no lead him properly. Was third down and was going to be hit as soon as caught so no different result than a punt but bad throw.
-Sack Fumble play. This is solely bad because he fumbles, he was on his 3rd or 4th read going from all the way right to all the way left and had a small window to Boutte on a comeback, hit as he tried to get it out.
-Had DD over the middle, clean pocket, led him just a bit too much. He had to lead him as CB was trailing and did not want him to undercut him but he led him too much.
-In 4th quarter had a throw to a rb out wide left about 10 yards and threw it too wide to be caught. Again, wanted to lead him away from the defender but was way too much.
-The pick on the batted swing pass. The Tackle is supposed to get the DE down, he gets him to put his hands down, but he recovers to get back vertical and deflect the pass. Seen this play go for picks the other way, don't love this play. It is designed for a quick throw so you want to line drive it, Maye could have adjusted to a more touch throw but would make receivers hold blocks longer than they want. When he started to throw looked like DE was going down, Maye should have given it more loft but honestly just a real good defensive play, happens.
-There was the throw a bit behind DD, and another a bit high. They got lots of yardage on these, yeah the crosser left some yards due to being behind him but if receiver gets 2 hands on the ball and positive yards not calling it bad, calling it could be better.

OK, LET'S GET TO THE GOOD!

-I found 1, yes 1 and only 1 bad read. He took a sack trying to move out of pocket when he had 2 receivers over middle open to dump to. Of course, there are always multiple decisions on some plays that would work and there were a few he had other options. For example, he had DD open on a crosser, threw the TD to Boutte instead. Time running out, wanted a shot play, first read, that's the right read and play and was a TD. The crosser was easier but now time is almost out, and you might have 1-2 plays max. Most QB's would take the crosser.
-I need to re-iterate the ability to go thru reads and see the field is already elite. I thought it was a very good talent that he possessed from college tape. I have not watched another QB on tape this year that was as high a success rate as Maye was in making the proper decision on who to throw to and when to run. It was impressive.
-Highlight some good to elite throws. First in 2nd quarter 1st and 10 at own 10, hits Boutte on an in-cut, from far hash, has a yard or 2 on DB but Maye just does a quick middle lookoff, then back to right and throws a bullet in perfect location.
-30 Seconds in half, TD drive, 2nd and 8 on own 18, first 2 reads covered, 3rd read middle covered, gets to 4th read all the way back on right, so scanned left to right, on far hash, getting hit, can't step into throw, hits DD, 22-yard gain with the YAC added. This is as Elite as you can get from a QB. Are there 10 QB's in the NFL that can make this play? Most absolutely could not and would not. 4 reads in 2.55 seconds once ball is in his hands. This play might be one of the best QB plays of the year by any QB. This ONE play tells you Drake Maye will be a top 5 QB in the NFL.
-He followed that with a good comeback throw to Polk that he dropped
-The TD bomb, he released it when Boutte was on the 28, caught when Boutte was on the 3, in stride. How many QB;'s make that play? The list is less than you think, Maye was the best college deep ball thrower I'd scouted in the last decade. That's an elite throw. To make that throw and the earlier play on the same drive is as good as it gets from a QB.
-Highlight 2 more great throws: First drive after DD crosser TD pass. This is the Boutte pass to the sidelines in between defenders. He had TE in the flat to same side, sees the zone defender CB move back towards Boutte, so pump fakes to TE, CB jumps up and he goes back to where CB would have been, drills pass from middle of hashes to Boutte 21 yards in the air, rapid release, my goodness it was a thing of beauty. A third absolute elite top 5 NFL talent QB play. Then last 4th down play of the game threw and out to DD, threw it on the break, the CB was underneath, but from far hash to sideline kept it out far enough where CB could not undercut. This throw is one only strong-arm QB's can make. This is a great tight window throw.

I think he was a little nervous to start but I think, Moreso, is he had a ton of adrenaline, overshooting a bit due to being a bit hyped. More calm in the second half.
One of the things that set Maye apart from Daniels and Williams on tape from college, and also today in the NFL, was you have many plays where you question the decision, where guys are open and they don't see them. I thought Maye was going to come in top 10 NFL in terms of processing, but he looks much better than that not having the horrible OC from UNC anymore.

I obvious loved Maye since he declared for the draft but I thought the tape of this game would show a mediocre performance. I was wrong. You can't get a sense of how elite some of his plays were until you watch tape. Should I worry about the picks, fumble and a couple missed throws? Since he did not do that regularly in college, I'll stick with not a long-term concern.

One interesting note: If you swapped the drop % in 2023 of Williams and Maye, Maye would have had 66.35% complete, Williams would have been at 64.97%. Yet Williams was talked about as extremely accurate and Maye as inaccurate, huh?

Excited for the future of the Pats! Just get him a healthy group of linemen and 1 more good receiver and we will put up 30 a game next year.

Will get to receivers in next Post. Polk probably not happy to hear that! LOL

I highly recommend watching this review also
 
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