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[KCSVEN]

Excited to get to the Maye All-22 but while I wait for that to come out a couple comments and then onto the Line. Just a different feel with Maye. When it was 27-14 and Texans had the ball, I texted my brother and said, if they get a stop, this is the first time this year I feel like the offense might actually be able to score. Defense did get stop but the interception on the swing pass ended that. Patriots had 3 turnovers, 3 Punts and 2 TD drives in the 2nd half and then the one drive to nowhere that ended the game. They really did stop themselves. I also thought before the game, we've scored a high of 20 this year, Maye will almost always get you 20, barring a Jets game type jailbreak. They got 21. Hard to keep a good QB down for an entire game.

I needed to keep checking the roster to find out who these guys were. Kudos to Ben Brown for coming in on short notice and holding his own.
Zach Thomas? Ben Brown? Demontrey Jacobs? I'd still go with Sow and kick Onwenu to RT, too bad Lowe can't stay healthy, he's been doing a very good job when out there. Jacobs getting beat, sacking Maye and the defender rolling up on Lowes Ankle ended his day. Blame that on Jacobs also? I added bad run blocking stats this week as well as they had trouble running the ball though in the second half they improved a bit. Probably because Texans were all in on the Pass Rush. At Fault/Bad Rep stats:




PFF has a 33.3% pressure rate. I will say there were 4 plays by Maye that were like the old Brady, get the snap, get the ball out within 2 seconds and rush has no chance, all for positive forward passes.
PFF Pressure:
Jacobs: 4
Onwenu: 3
Thomas: 3
Jordan: 2
Lowe: 1
I differ from them because it is not just about pressure for me, a pressure on a screen pass is not a real pressure, you get beat immediately but Maye has the ball out in 2 seconds you still got beat. I put PFF here for comparison's sake.

Jacobs and Thomas: You get a really good pass rusher against either one and they will struggle. Will Anderson, Joey Bosa. Otherwise, they hold up well enough for below average NFL tackles. Laremy Tunsil allowed zero pressures as a comparison. The way Lowe has played when healthy you might have a good tackle for the future, and just need to sign/draft one tackle. Got to see Lowe more, and healthy, but these other guys need some work. They are what we have for now, 3rd and 4th stringers playing in the starting lineup. It's just frustrating that the line is such a major area of concern, and they get ravaged by injuries there.

Onwenu/Jordan: I thought they overall played well. It is tough because you lose 1 or 2 reps and that happens to most guys. You lose 1 or 2 while your tackles are losing 6+ a game your couple of mistake gets amplified.

Ben Brown: Yeah who? Pass pro was solid, not as good in the run game. Guy had to play center a few days after signing, no matter what he gets an A++. Hopefully he gets better with more practice time. or Leverette comes back and is better.

Sidy Sow: Had the penalty but Sow was solid otherwise in the limited (8) reps he got to play.

I think it should be Sow, Center of the week, and Jordan, with Onwenu kicked outside and then maybe Lowe can be healthy as your best line. I understand Onwenu is a better guard, in theory, but the pressures Onwenu allowed at Tackle were half or less than Jacobs or Thomas. Each guy might lose a couple reps but losing 5-6 reps, you can't have a guy on the line that is doing that, much less 2 guys.

Maye did make the line better by getting the ball out on multiple plays, he'll get better at that as the game slows down. However, they are playing guys that were cut and released very recently. You have the best starting 5 all healthy I think they'd be fine enough with Maye. Will add WR and QB reviews here once I get the All-22.

 

[KCSVEN]

 

[ViperGTS]

I read that the pressure rate yesterday went from around 50 down to 33.

Thats a huge drop against a team that is known for its pressures and Caleb Williams was pressured on almost 50 percent of his drop backs in week 1.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

I read that the pressure rate yesterday went from around 50 down to 33.

Thats a huge drop against a team that is known for its pressures and Caleb Williams was pressured on almost 50 percent of his drop backs in week 1.

Thats really encouraging if true. If only we can get the run game going again and the defense settles in.

 

[PatsFan2]

I all for moving Onwenu back to Tackle out of necessity.

 

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[KCSVEN]

I read that the pressure rate yesterday went from around 50 down to 33.

Thats a huge drop against a team that is known for its pressures and Caleb Williams was pressured on almost 50 percent of his drop backs in week 1.

It's hard to analyze pressure rate without knowing how it is calculated. Nexgen stats had them at 46%, PFF stats I have showed 35.2 this am and then updated it to 33.3

If you have a screen and they get pressure, well they are supposed to have pressure, you have the naked bootleg throwback that Hooper ended up fumbling, has pressure but that's by play design. Not all pressures are created equal. Maye stepped into the pressure once causing his own pressure.
I think the time he had to throw, on average, was better but overall, they were losing just as many reps as previous weeks, Maye helped them with some quick releases and some scrambles.
For Jets I had 62% good/OK Pass pro, 59% vs Texans so in that way they were pretty much the same as they were vs Jets. The difference was Maye and the Play Calls as well as when the bad pass pro plays happened.

 

[Brotherblues]

I read that the pressure rate yesterday went from around 50 down to 33.

Thats a huge drop against a team that is known for its pressures and Caleb Williams was pressured on almost 50 percent of his drop backs in week 1.

I read somewhere that if you hold the ball until a defender hits you, a defender will hit you 100% of the time. Crazy stat, I'll link if I can find it again.

 

[Water Boy]

I all for moving Onwenu back to Tackle out of necessity.

I vote no. Got to be stout up the middle first.

 

[p8ryts]

I vote no. Got to be stout up the middle first.

Coaches need to help the tackles more. Doesn't do any good to send out 5 pass receivers if there is no time to throw. Increase tight ends and backs support for tackles. Easier to help on the wings as opposed to straight up the gut.

 

[PatsFan2]

Coaches need to help the tackles more. Doesn't do any good to send out 5 pass receivers if there is no time to throw. Increase tight ends and backs support for tackles. Easier to help on the wings as opposed to straight up the gut.

AVP's High School Offense in action.

 

[Toofy]

@KCSVEN a question to you.

If lowe gets back healthy and we also get back Wallace and strange , how should the line up look like ? Who will be starters and who would be swing tackles ?

 

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[KCSVEN]

@KCSVEN a question to you.

If lowe gets back healthy and we also get back Wallace and strange , how should the line up look like ? Who will be starters and who would be swing tackles ?

I don’t think Wallace is ready to start, maybe at right tackle, but I haven’t seen enough of him there
I’m assuming Strange is going to be tried out at center after all the time off I have no idea what he’ll be like
I would have Onwenu RT, Lowe LT I guess it is Sow, Jordan Guards and Strange center
I just don’t think any of the other tackle ideas are great. I’m not convinced yet that Lowe would hold up and Onwenu is ideally a guard but there in dire need of adding a tackle and they don’t have it so I think that’s the best lineup as of today
Make sure you add a tackle, assuming low can handle one of the sides. And you can move Onwenu back inside with Sow and Strange

Wallace and Jacobs as swing tackles I guess for this year, just a lack of quality players and depth at the tackle positions

 

[Uptown]

 

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[Toofy]

I don’t think Wallace is ready to start, maybe at right tackle, but I haven’t seen enough of him there
I’m assuming Strange is going to be tried out at center after all the time off I have no idea what he’ll be like
I would have Onwenu RT, Lowe LT I guess it is Sow, Jordan Guards and Strange center
I just don’t think any of the other tackle ideas are great. I’m not convinced yet that Lowe would hold up and Onwenu is ideally a guard but there in dire need of adding a tackle and they don’t have it so I think that’s the best lineup as of today
Make sure you add a tackle, assuming low can handle one of the sides. And you can move Onwenu back inside with Sow and Strange

Wallace and Jacobs as swing tackles I guess for this year, just a lack of quality players and depth at the tackle positions

Ben brown seems to have had a perfect game . Why are you not penciling him as a starter compared to strange who is yet unproven at center.

Other questions. I thought Jacobs performed pretty well in mop up duty as LT. Is he better fitted as LT or RT.


If strange comes back, I see the only spot open for him as LT as Jordan is a pretty decent RG.

If we rank our top Oline players my rankings would be

Jordan, onwenu, sow, brown, lowe followed by

Strange
Jacobs
Wallace
Thomas
Robinson

Lowe is getting an MRI and I suspect he might not be back for at least 2-3 games. How do we reset the Oline by getting our best players.

In my mind, I would want to solidify three of positions that is LG, RG and C with Sow, onwenu and brown.

The tackles are the missing pieces. Don't expect Wallace to come in over next 3-4 weeks. Lowe should also be sent to IR. Which means we need to get 2 more offensive linemen added to the roster.

LT - Jacobs , Thomas(swing)
RT - Strange, Thomas ( swing)

Considering we have onwenu manning right side won't strange be able to manage the exterior rusher considering his athleticism and the fact that he is going to be dealing with pass rushers his size or lesser and not bulky Nose tackles.