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  1. The Brandon Five

    The Brandon Five PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    So the "rope-a-dope" was actually created 2oo years BC?
     
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  2. Patsgofor4

    Patsgofor4 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

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    In my opinion, Tampa is going to fail to meet expectations whereas the Patriots will exceed expectations, but to avoid the possibility of the two teams ending up with the same record, I will bet that the Pats will be 9-7 or better.

    The amount is up to you. $200? $300?

    So many good charities from which to choose....Home for Little Wanderers (Boston based), Operation Smile, Michael J. Fox Foundation, Animal Rescue League of Boston are some of my favorites for donations.
     
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  3. Patsgofor4

    Patsgofor4 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

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    To you, those throwaways are soley an indictment on the OL. There is no doubt that his OTs in particular failed him during certain games. To me, the fact that he LEAD the league in throwaways is more reflective of an aging quarterback who has become progressively less mobile, less willing/able to extend plays and move to his 2nd and 3rd reads and much less willing to stand in the pocket and make throws under pressure/potentially take a hit.

    Many of those throwaways were about self preservation...to the extreme. In my opinion, if you took the same OL but inserted a 31-year-old Brady, the throwaways would drop by 20% or more. I don't have the links handy but at least one local football writers (who are more impartial than most posters here) looked at his 2019 throwaways and came to the conclusion that he gave up on plays too early on numerous occasions. It may have been Howe, or maybe Lazar.
     
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  4. denverpatsfan

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    Excellent. 9-7. If for some reason they do not play a full season we can a use the winning percentage instead. $200 for Animal Rescue League it is.
     
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  5. PatsFanInVa

    PatsFanInVa PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Hey man, it's more of a mystery than at any time for 20 years.

    Secondary looks good though :D
     
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  6. Patsgofor4

    Patsgofor4 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

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    Sounds good. You seem like an upstanding guy. Honor system should be just fine.
     
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  7. DropKickFlutie

    DropKickFlutie In the Starting Line-Up

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    Just for the record, isn't Belichick like the winningest in terms of beating the gambling win-loss spreads over the past 20 years ??


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  8. captain stone

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    We need Damien Harris to be the oldskool, smash-mouth, clock-killin' closer, because we know now that Soreknee isn't that guy.
     
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  9. Patstastic

    Patstastic 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

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    No chance we get Lawrence. Coaching is too good. And we have a better overall roster than the Giants and Jags.
     
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  10. stinkypete

    stinkypete In the Starting Line-Up

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    The secondary and special teams are good enough to produce 6 wins.
     
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  11. amfootball

    amfootball Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    I agree with this. Brady has played that way the past two seasons - 2018 and 2019. He was definitely playing the self-preservation game to avoid taking the hits which was actually pretty smart as he avoided major injury while helping to guide the team to 12 wins by managing the game and letting the defense do its thing. As a result, he did not tire at the end of the season playing very well vs the Titans. It's a real shame that we could not close out the Fins to secure the 2nd seed as I think the extra week off would have helped everyone and gave us a legit chance to get back to the bowl.

    Back to Brady, I believe that is why Bill was comfortable moving on from him. He didn't want to keep playing the preservation game. The gamble is will a young, more athletic QB be able to game manage as great as Brady to secure all those wins or will be take a lot negative plays that flip field position for the opponent and tire our D or worse throw picks because he is forcing things that are not there. We will find out soon.
     
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  12. captain stone

    captain stone Pro Bowl Player

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    All by themselves? Just like that?

    If Stid is merely who many of us feel he is, then 6-10 is our ceiling with this schedule; if he's worse than even that, then there's no way the secondary & especially STs are good enough to come to his - or any other position group's- rescue...
     
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    Vindicate Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    *@denverpatsfan starts a non-profit called "Animal Rescue League it is"*

    "Yesss.... So very upstanding!" :)
     
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    Actually in that year it would have been the Picts and as the name suggests they were keen on selfies.
     
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    Sounds like Marty Schottenheimer's great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather.
     
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  16. Actual Pats Fan

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    vuudu Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract Weekly Picks Winner

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    When AB gets/signs back here, no one can hold a candle to us.
     
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    sb1 Pro Bowl Player

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    At the very least I expect better QB play this year than we got last year. Shouldn’t be that hard to do.
     
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    vuudu Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract Weekly Picks Winner

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    Are you serious or being sarcastic? I can't tell. I think we did not get good QB play last year. If fact I will go further to say it was a toxic environment for that offense just by the body languages alone.
     
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    I'm sure I've missed or messed up a few in here and am open to correction, but, when we consider the dynastic or wannabe "dynastic" teams of the SB era, this is what we see between SB winning Seasons:

    GBP: 1967--1996: 30 seasons
    1996--2019: 24 seasons and counting
    MIA: 1973--??? oops, 47 seasons and counting
    KCC: 1969--2019 51 seasons. Was a big oops, but no longer "counting" after last year.
    Colts (Bal and Indy): 1970--2006: 37 seasons
    Colts: (Indy): 2006--2019: 14 seasons and counting
    DAL: 1971--1977, 7 seasons
    1977--1992, 16 seasons
    1995--??? 25 seasons and counting
    DEN: 1998--2015:18 seasons
    PIT: 1979--2005: 27 seasons;
    2008--20119: 12 seasons and counting
    OAK: 1980--??? oops. 40 seasons and counting
    RAMS: 1999--??? oops. 21 seasons and counting
    WAS: 1991--??? oops, 29 seasons and counting

    In other words, six SB wins in nine appearances in 20 seasons...not too ****ing bad.
     
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