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  1. signbabybrady

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    Looking like the Miami game.
     
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    This would be true even if he's relegated to "just" a blocking tight-end.
     
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    I hope he never comes back just because I would feel horrible if he had been through it all, retired on top, got a little bored or whatever, and then came back and injured himself worse.

    He could get surgery again, rehab, and even if he’s a bit slower he could dominate as an in-line blocker or decoy who enjoys more limited targets but still makes big plays (this is kind of what he was last year anyway)...but knowing he already made the choice to walk away, that kinda means he could never be 100% all-in, and that’s ok. The dudes body has been through a war in football that many others would have given up on long ago. We’ll miss him, TB will miss him, and I’m sure he’ll miss the games, but when you’re done you’re done.
     
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    KC, 2011.
     
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    Reading this thread has led me to doing some thinking about the state of journalism in 2019. Very few of the responses have actually been about Freeman’s article. Most have been a rehash of our opinions as to whether Gronk will unretire or whether he should.

    Maybe, in our minds, we are now conditioned to see any media post as being an opinion piece rather than old fashioned reporting. Or maybe, we just see any attempt at reporting as made up internet nonsense and dismiss it as such. I don’t know which it is, but, by the responses in this thread, most just ignored the reporting that there is a belief in the Patriots front office that Gronk will come out of retirement.

    This is not the first time I’ve noticed this on the board. Earlier this offseason I posted Greg Bedard’s reporting in the BSJ that “most involved” in the Brady extension discussions didn’t believe the deal couldn’t be finalized until a year had passed since his last redo in August 2018. Some posters vociferously disagreed with my opinion. It wasn’t an opinion people. It was Bedard’s reporting, and it’s looking pretty accurate at this point.

    Like Bedard, I’m pretty sure Mike Freeman sees himself as a journalist not a gossip purveyor. The man has been been in the business 30 years and worked for The NY Times and Washington Post when that meant something. It’s a shame so many have just come to ignore all reporting as just gossip based opinion. It’s an even bigger shame we all got too cheap to pay for journalism meant to bring us the truth because we paid for it and professional integrity demanded it and settled for often sensational, opinionated lies that get the clicks the sponsors want.
     
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    he's back no question
     
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    To be fair we have known about the rule long before Bedard's "reporting" on it.

    But your overall point still stands that people need to realize that their opinion is meaningless in the face of facts.
     
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    Well, I suppose if anyone would know, you would. ;)
     
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    There are rarely facts in NFL reporting, only rumor, and confirmation of rumor.
     
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    Once again what are the odds that he took HGH or some form of PED's post retirement to ease his pain and discomfort, comparable to Ben Watson??

    If he did follow this path he would probably be suspended anyways when he was reinstated.. IMO the ship with Gronk on it has sailed. Sounds a lot like wishful thinking..
     
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    What if (hypothetically speaking, of course) he took HGH or whatever to help him heal a bit, and then returned in a year or so from now? He wouldn’t be getting tested until reinstatement, so there shouldn’t be a concern.

    In Watson’s case, didn’t he wait a little while before announcing his retirement, officially, which is why he was still tested? I’m pretty sure he waited a little while to see what the market brought during free agency and it’s right around that time when he was popped.
     
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    IMO, the decline in reporting started in 1987 when the Fairness Doctrine policy was eliminated, and got worse when it was completely removed in 2011. Although it concerns broadcasting, it's not hard to imagine how it affected news reporting in general.

    Today, a great deal of news resembles the infamous "doublespeak" we read about in Orwell's prescient "1984" novel.
     
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    Or, he could have tried something like, say, losing 30 pounds to ease his back pain and discomfort. I would argue that recent pictures show that he has taken that path.

    Usually I think of someone on PEDs as getting their muscles swole up instead of losing 30 pounds (I'm guessing the amount based on pictures), isn't that normally the case? I'm afraid I'm not much of an expert at PEDs.
     
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    They tested him post retirement.. not sure why. If due to collective bargaining agreement it seems a tad invasive post retirement..

     
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    I don't think a full year off similar to Witten makes much sense in this situation. If he gets the feeling to play again how in the world could you sit out the stretch run and say to yourself "Meh I'll just wait til next year"
     
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    I believe there's a deadline for him to sign for reg season and playoffs. Lots of time to reconsider. I wouldn't be surprised if he does or doesn't.
     
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    This sounds like a rumor to me.
     
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    Re-reading 1984 these days can be somewhat less than comfortable.
     
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    Despite the title, the actual content of the article is inconclusive which opens the door for people to chime in with their opinions. This is a message board.
     

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