Mac Jones Injury Video [UPDATE - X-Rays were negative]

[bormio]

This entire situation looks really bizarre at this point. With the way Mac ran off the field in complete hysterics you would think he had sustained a very serious injury. Then "severe high ankle sprain" was reported. Surgery and second opinions were discussed. Then Bill's weird "day by day" press conference on Wednesday. Now all of the sudden Mac is a "game-time decision" for this Sunday??

Someone please explain how any of this makes sense.

Patriot QBs are just a different breed I guess. Or the Boston media gets manipulated more than they think

 

[Pacific Coast Patriot]

Did anybody on the Pats say it was a strain or the media got whatever sources they wanted to hear and went with it? This is not splitting hairs, but want to make sure you don't the Pats put that out there. We may have this all backwards. Between the Pats and Mac's camp, I wonder who wants to play this week. Something tells me the Pats will rather he not play this week.

Well this is what I’m confused on. I know the Pats (and other teams) have lied on the injury reports for years. But Mac having an MRI seems like you get a conclusive result. Either they leaked a false result (classic BB) or the media literally guessed and went with it as you said.

I think it’s kinda dumb that they don’t have to disclose injury results officially, it goes against player safety, and if nothing else sucks for fans. Like I support the Pats no matter what but I’m not gonna spend all my cash to fly into Foxboro for a game if Hoyers QB. If the starters out there it’s a different story. But who cares about the fans or the players, it’s not like they’re the ones keeping the money coming in!!

 

[Betterthanmost]

This entire situation looks really bizarre at this point. With the way Mac ran off the field in complete hysterics you would think he had sustained a very serious injury. Then "severe high ankle sprain" was reported. Surgery and second opinions were discussed. Then Bill's weird "day by day" press conference on Wednesday. Now all of the sudden Mac is a "game-time decision" for this Sunday??

Someone please explain how any of this makes sense.

If you don't take it as weird but fact that it was really day by day, it seizes to be confusing. BB in this case advocated patients. The Pats under BB don't respond to media that much so if the media wants to put this out there, you should ask the media or the source who reported the surgery, the high ankle strain etc. They need to make sense of it for you and not the Pats. I was not sure if your post was directed at the Pats or the media.

 

[jdlboot14]

Maybe Mac thought he really snapped something when 320lb giant landed on his ankle, and he was shocked and pissed. Notice he never touched the ground with his left foot. I wonder once back in the locker room or that night, after ice and calming, if he realized it wasn't as structural as he thought. Even so, there's no reason to parade him around like he'd hobble on it this week. Just get some of TB12's juju on it, and give it another week or 2 and prepare his mind for kicking this offense into gear. We certainly have a chance with Lions, Browns, Bears & Jets with Hoyer. Even though it'd be nice to see Mac back by the Bears if he's really risen from the dead and is fine.

 

[Sfpat]

This entire situation looks really bizarre at this point. With the way Mac ran off the field in complete hysterics you would think he had sustained a very serious injury. Then "severe high ankle sprain" was reported. Surgery and second opinions were discussed. Then Bill's weird "day by day" press conference on Wednesday. Now all of the sudden Mac is a "game-time decision" for this Sunday??

Someone please explain how any of this makes sense.

Modern medicine

 

[crawhammer]

Patriot QBs are just a different breed I guess. Or the Boston media gets manipulated more than they think

Patriot QBs? Honestly I'm not trying to be a **** here but what would people be saying about Brady if he ran off the field like a hysterical Lucile Ball? Mac was in obvious distress there and the initial reports of "severe" high ankle sprain and surgical considerations made sense, until about Wednesday afternoon when out of the blue Mac sustained an injury apparently so minor that it's day by day and a game-time decision by Friday. Something(s) were very wrong along the way there. I'd like to know what.

Supposed media manipulation doesn't make any sense to me either. We can assume Mac wasn't faking it when he hopped off the field like a jack rabbit hit with a BB gun. Then what the Patriots are feeding bad information to NBC Sports Boston? And Adam Schefter? To what end? So the Packers don't know if they're facing Mac Jones or his stand-in double Hoyer at quarterback? They're effectively the same player (style-wise).

Not for nothing, if this is all part of some ruse to supposedly keep the Packers off balance, and Mac really has no chance of playing, because he's in fact "severely" injured, then I think the team is doing the player a huge disservice. I mean image still counts for something, right?

 

[crawhammer]

If you don't take it as weird but fact that it was really day by day, it seizes to be confusing. BB in this case advocated patients. The Pats under BB don't respond to media that much so if the media wants to put this out there, you should ask the media or the source who reported the surgery, the high ankle strain etc. They need to make sense of it for you and not the Pats. I was not sure if your post was directed at the Pats or the media.

I'm not sure what to make of the media either here. I don't believe any media member would make up a medical diagnosis and then independently qualify the severity of it. The media did their job in the Wednesday press conference, they asked all of the necessary questions, it's just they were given non-answers across the board. As a fan it's frustrating to me. I'd like to know what's going on with the team's quarterback. All this organization subterfuge is tiresome. And again in this particular case I feel a disservice to the player.

 

[Nehalem]

This entire situation looks really bizarre at this point. With the way Mac ran off the field in complete hysterics you would think he had sustained a very serious injury. Then "severe high ankle sprain" was reported. Surgery and second opinions were discussed. Then Bill's weird "day by day" press conference on Wednesday. Now all of the sudden Mac is a "game-time decision" for this Sunday??

Someone please explain how any of this makes sense.

Avocado ice cream.

 

[Ollie]

He has risen indeed. If it truly was a severe high ankle sprain and hes recovering without surgery, you’re not out on the field throwing. You are not moving that leg a millimetre for days for starters.

Either they lied when they told the press it was a sprain or he’s been touched by Jesus.

What exactly did they tell the press? I think a lot of assumptions have been made

 

[Triumph]

This entire situation looks really bizarre at this point. With the way Mac ran off the field in complete hysterics you would think he had sustained a very serious injury. Then "severe high ankle sprain" was reported. Surgery and second opinions were discussed. Then Bill's weird "day by day" press conference on Wednesday. Now all of the sudden Mac is a "game-time decision" for this Sunday??

Someone please explain how any of this makes sense.

He is not playing this week.

Green Bay knows that he is not starting on Sunday. The Patriots are fooling no one by having Jones attend practice and allow the media see him stand in 1 spot and play catch.

 

[203Pat]

Officially ruled out.

 

[BadMoFo]

I'm not sure what to make of the media either here. I don't believe any media member would make up a medical diagnosis and then independently qualify the severity of it. The media did their job in the Wednesday press conference, they asked all of the necessary questions, it's just they were given non-answers across the board. As a fan it's frustrating to me. I'd like to know what's going on with the team's quarterback. All this organization subterfuge is tiresome. And again in this particular case I feel a disservice to the player.

Belichick repeatedly said Mac's injury status was day by day and apparently that's what it is. Fans and press aren't entitled to know every single detail about a player's injuries. That's what injury reports are for.

 

[italian pat patriot]

Officially ruled out.

As expected 100%...

 

[BadMoFo]

As expected 100%...

Hoyer the Destroyer Time.

 

[Triumph]

Schefter confirmed that there will be no Mac Miracle.

 

[crawhammer]

Belichick repeatedly said Mac's injury status was day by day and apparently that's what it is. Fans and press aren't entitled to know every single detail about a player's injuries. That's what injury reports are for.

I don't believe the injury was ever day to day. Just some stupid throw away line Bill was feeding the media to amuse himself. I don't think he did his quarterback any favors in this situation. Including throwing stationary passes at practice. I just find the press conference shenanigans to be really lame. You're really drinking the Kool Aid if you believe there's a strategic advantage there.

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

Officially ruled out.

P8ssy

No one expected him to play, I guess GB now has only 1 practice to ready themselves for AXEL!!!

The Redskins rushed RG3 back and his knee gave out and that was basically his career. Let him heal, it's not like he is Br.....

 

[upstater1]

You are correct that based on that set of conflicting data points, it makes no sense. Reports of a severe high ankle sprain are consistent with Mac's reaction. At this point no one can accurately predict when Mac will be back on the field. BB's day by day is just his way of giving Hoyer and the team air cover while keeping the pressure on Mac to deal with his injury in the most expedient way possible.

Here's my high ankle sprain story:

I did it in March on Spring Break in Florida with my kids.

I was playing softball and landed on a water bottle. It was so bad when I landed that my vision blacked out from the pain. I saw stars. I lay there face planted into the dirt. Most excruciating pain I ever felt. More than broken limbs and torn ACL and severe burns (though those last for days). I didn't cry or scream (though involuntary tears rolled out from my eyes), but I did lay there grunting. "Are you OK Dad?" was met with the kind of grrrs my dog makes.

I didn't know what had happened, but the pain stayed for several minutes, and after it subsided 5-8 minutes later, I thought the thing to do was walk back to the house 3/4 of a mile. I got back, elevated it, iced it, took ibuprofen, and tried to watch the Celtics. The pain began to throb.

Next morning I awoke at 6 because we were driving 2 hours to Disney and my kids had never been there, so I was going to take them no matter what, my idiocy wasn't going to ruin their first (and hopefully ONLY) time at Disney.

I drove (the sprain was my left foot). Got to the parking lot, realized it was going to be a huge trial. After a while I figured out that I would not be in pain if only I walked straight ahead and didn't turn my foot. So I did that. When I needed to turn, I would stop and make sure of my foot placement. I made it like this through 3 days of Disney without going to Urgent Care. I thought I had a sprain. But when I removed my shoe that night, the sight was gruesome. The foot was huge, ballooned and swollen, the toenails were orange, the skin everywhere was purple except for the bottom of my foot. I looked like the Grape Ape with peach soles. Of course the ankle itself was swollen like grapefruit, but even worse, the tendons running up the sides of my leg had swollen and caused discoloration almost up my knee.

Why am I describing all this? BECAUSE when I visited Urgent Care once we got back to south Florida, they told me I had a really bad high ankle sprain, and they said there was nothing much I could do. Swelling went down 3 or 4 days later (it took a week). I came back to Buffalo where I live, went to work each day in much the same fashion, went about my life. If I was an NFL QB and had to wear a Dan Marino boot, I imagine I could do so after 2 weeks if I could withstand the pain. I wouldn't be able to run very well though. Healing took 6 weeks and I did rehab throughout. I tweaked it a month after that when I carried a 100 pound dresser down my basement steps and turned my leg at the bottom. I'm running and cycling again even though it's still not right.

Point being, given the medical care Mac's going to get, he could be comfortably out there in one month. But if he really wanted to push it (and there's no reason to), he could wear a Dan Marino boot and be out there in 2 weeks.

If I recall correctly, Pollard messed up Gronk's ankle in the divisional round. Gronk missed the AFCCG, and then had the bye week before the Super Bowl. He was out on the field in 3 weeks with a bad high ankle sprain. He was in pain and extremely limited. He did sprint downfield straight ahead once on a bad INT. But that shows you that Mac can play in 3 weeks, and it's not shocking at all that he is walking around on a Friday 5 days after he experienced excruciating pain.

 

[venecol]

Officially ruled out.

This is classic Bill. He forced GB to come up with two different game plans two days before game time:

1. A hobbled Mac;
2. Axel Hoyer.

I wonder how different those game plans were.

 

[Stu Pidassle]

Upstarter, What I wrote, how BB has been dealing with the media and today's news about Mac are in line with your experience. Ultimately when Mac comes back will be dictated by how close to full mobility is necessary to be more effective than Hoyer. As you point out Gronk was useless in that super bowl, I don't think it is anyone's best interest to put Mac on the field in that condition for an early regular season game. He needs to be able to plant on that ankle and protect himself from further injury. Hopefully he will be back sometime during the soft part of the schedule to be ready for the tough part of the schedule that will determine if the team makes the playoffs.