Josh is not walking thru that door.

[Real fan 02]

Yeah, K Harry stuck around for 4 training camps.

Bum Jones will be around for 3 easy.

Bum Jones would have a job quicker than your all star coaching staff would if released

 

[Real fan 02]

Yeah, K Harry stuck around for 4 training camps.

Bum Jones will be around for 3 easy.

Who picked Harry? Who went against the draft scouts?

 

[SHOWTIME15]

 

[PatsFan2]

Raider fans just did this.

 

[upstater1]

Also McDermott did the smart thing in keeping the offense in tact that Dabol ran with Allen. People tend to forget BB is the coach and GM.

I think so too, but I live in Buffalo and you would not believe how many people up here want Dorsey gone.

The newest thing is that Gabriel Davis is limited to only 3 routes ad it's a huge disappointment that Shakir and James Cook haven't been able to learn the offense enough to displace some of the veterans who are limited.

Also, you may not realize this, but McDermott and Daboll actually butted heads over the lack of a run game in Daboll's plans. McDermott took over at one point. He did clash with Daboll.

 

[upstater1]

Who picked Harry? Who went against the draft scouts?

Harry was picked LATER than most consensus drafts had him going.

Consensus had him picked at #29

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[upstater1]

Sorry Allen plays in Buffalo, my hope is Kraft will have groh handle some of BB duties groh is the guy behind the recent draft success..

Groh only handled this year's draft.

2021 and 2020 were both decent drafts and Groh was not handling those

 

[Real fan 02]

Groh only handled this year's draft.

2021 and 2020 were both decent drafts and Groh was not handling those

No, groh was involved last season per Kraft, the organization wanted a collaboration on the draft reports were bb ignored scout's wich prompted to The teams failure

 

[Real fan 02]

I think so too, but I live in Buffalo and you would not believe how many people up here want Dorsey gone.

The newest thing is that Gabriel Davis is limited to only 3 routes ad it's a huge disappointment that Shakir and James Cook haven't been able to learn the offense enough to displace some of the veterans who are limited.

Also, you may not realize this, but McDermott and Daboll actually butted heads over the lack of a run game in Daboll's plans. McDermott took over at one point. He did clash with Daboll.

Really, that's some interesting information. One thing I can say is that dabol has been around a while. Have to give the guy credit as he seems to be excellent with developing qbs.. if I'm not mistaken he was here for early on brady with his development under wiess. Gabriel seems to be open each time I see him play.. I'll take him! Allen is just a phenomenal qb I like his attitude even more. We just need a competent offensive coach to help Mac

 

[cupofjoe1962]

So did Mark Sanchez with the Jets

Patricia has allowed Cam to air it out and have more control over the offense. Its been a failure because Cam is slow and his arm is weak.

Patricias playcalling isnt the issue. Lack of execution from Cam is.

Cam Jones.

Like when the Eagles thought Sanchez was a winner. The Bills had a parade for Drew Bledsoe. The Steelers wanted Tribisky.The Panters wanted Mayfield. Tebow to the Jets. Plenty of QB who stink find new teams to scam.

Cam Jones with Belichick is looking like crap.

Kraft may fire the pair.

Cam Jones?

I hope your not driving ……

 

[upstater1]

No, groh was involved last season per Kraft, the organization wanted a collaboration on the draft reports were bb ignored scout's wich prompted to The teams failure

Well they have a ton of people collaborating but he didn't lead it. Groh was chosen over one other guy when McDaniels took Ziegler withhim, but Groh was not the head of it, and certainly not 3 years ago when we grabbed Dugger, Uche, and Onwenu.

 

[upstater1]

Really, that's some interesting information. One thing I can say is that dabol has been around a while. Have to give the guy credit as he seems to be excellent with developing qbs.. if I'm not mistaken he was here for early on brady with his development under wiess. Gabriel seems to be open each time I see him play.. I'll take him! Allen is just a phenomenal qb I like his attitude even more. We just need a competent offensive coach to help Mac

Gabriel Davis gets a lot of the blame in Buffalo because they feel he is not up to it as a #2. More of a 3rd receiver, limited, good athleticism, but lacks the skills to make good cuts, routes. Diggs is a top 10 player in the league but too often the Bills are a 2 man show.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Its a damn shame because this team is pretty good.

Which team? Us?

 

[RobertWeathers]

All I have to say is look at last seasons offense compare to this seasons. Literally night and day.

Yep. They have talent on O and D but are not playing to their pot'l.

 

[Real fan 02]

Well they have a ton of people collaborating but he didn't lead it. Groh was chosen over one other guy when McDaniels took Ziegler withhim, but Groh was not the head of it, and certainly not 3 years ago when we grabbed Dugger, Uche, and Onwenu.

Adams when he was here had imput, as was caserio, however Curran reported as well as reiss that bb ignored draft scouts and it began to annoy Kraft. People have remember BB is a Parcells deciple they both like to make football decisions with little owner involvement. However Kraft is a very involved owner as he should be!

 

[Real fan 02]

Gabriel Davis gets a lot of the blame in Buffalo because they feel he is not up to it as a #2. More of a 3rd receiver, limited, good athleticism, but lacks the skills to make good cuts, routes. Diggs is a top 10 player in the league but too often the Bills are a 2 man show.

Yes, but Gabe Davis speed is excellent with what the way Allen plays as he often gets outside the pocket and finds those guys wide open. Diggs is just excellent all around. I feel he's been better in Buffalo than in Minnesota. They guy is an excellent route runner. The only defense that I see in the entire NFL that can slow Buffalo is the jets.

 

[captain stone]

Patricia has allowed Cam to air it out and have more control over the offense. Its been a failure because Cam is slow and his arm is weak.

Patricia's play-calling isn't the issue. Lack of execution from Cam is.

Cam Jones.

Of course play-calling's an issue.

It's an issue on 3rd down, in the RZ and in GTG situations, where we suck...at ALL of them.

Now, it's not ALL Corky's fault...It's not ALL his coaches' fault... And it's not ALL his OL's fault.

But they are ALL to blame. It's a 3-headed Cesspool of Suck, and the only debate worth having is how those %s should be divided.

 

[captain stone]

Harry was picked LATER than most consensus drafts had him going.

Consensus had him picked at #29

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You keep bringing up this sh!t, but you NEVER look at who else was still available at #32... And that makes ALL THE ****ING DIFFERENCE,

Stop being so obtuse on this issue. You (& others who believe this way) insult our intelligence when you do.

 

[Zuma]

Of course play-calling's an issue.

It's an issue on 3rd down, in the RZ and in GTG situations, where we suck...at ALL of them.

Now, it's not ALL Corky's fault...It's not ALL his coaches' fault... And it's not ALL his OL's fault.

But they are ALL to blame. It's a 3-headed Cesspool of Suck, and the only debate worth having is how those %s should be divided.

Why does Zappe excel with the same plays, players, OLine, coaches?

 

[rochrist]

No just installed a new offensive system not even really used these days, confused the heck out a bright intelligent foot ball player who thrived as a rookie. Brung in 2 guys with no offensive philosophy or creativity. The results show up each game on offense.

They did not install "a new offensive system not even really used these days".