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Tom Brady is just a vastly superior version of Joe with a vastly superior legacy. Brady grew up idolizing the former GOAT until he destroyed the former GOAT and his legacy by miles.
Joe has 4 rings and Brady has 7 rings
Joe has 3 sb mvps and Brady has 5
Joe has 2 mvps and Brady has 3
Joe has 16 playoff wins and Brady has 34
Joe's peak<<<<<Brady's peak
Joe's prime <<<<<< Brady's prime
Joe's longevity <<<<< Brady's longevity
Joe's stats <<<<< Brady's stats
Joe's 4th quarter comebacks in the RS, playoffs, and SB <<< Brady's comebacks
Joe went to a new team and took them to the AFC championship game. Brady went to a new team and won them a superbowl. LOL
It's literally "anything you can do I can do better" and Brady is still adding insult to injury. No one would be surprised if Brady won another regular season MVP and/or super bowl ring and/or super bowl MVP this season.
To Joe's credit I think I saw an interview with him earlier this year where he said that "Brady took his place up top a long time ago" (refering to Brady being the GOAT) but I think he was basically forced to say that otherwise he would look like a bitter fool.
Joe said Brady is the GOAT :Joe Montana has been passively aggressive in public against Brady since at least 2007.
I remember the interview and I think the same thing. He had to protect himself and so he answered a certain way or he would look ridiculous. I have no problem if he actually thinks he's the GOAT, I mean whatever. There have been many great players throughout history.I was/am a big fan of Montana but it seems like he can't help but throw in some attitude when it comes to Brady in media interviews. I know he admitted Brady was the goat years ago but if I remember that interview, the reporter asked him a direct question and he literally couldn't say no without looking terrible.
Not just that - Brady didn't start 10 years ago. He started 20+ years ago and won 3 SBs in the 'old' days. Montana doesn't have the fire power to win the 4 Brady won in the 'offensive era' imo.From Montana's perception, he sees all the rule changes, and thinks that that would have saved him back then.
Apparently he doesn't watch the games enough to see what actual effect the rule changes have had on hitting the QB.
I remember the interview and I think the same thing. He had to protect himself and so he answered a certain way or he would look ridiculous. I have no problem if he actually thinks he's the GOAT, I mean whatever. There have been many great players throughout history.
Ya I have no idea who that even is so can't comment. Bias will always exist and if we all don't kill ourselves first they may not consider Brady top 3 in 100 years.I’m still think Sammy Baugh was probably the greatest quarterback ever, if the quarterback position itself is based on an evolving role rather than the modern understanding of a guy who primarily passes the ball. But I think when most people talk about the all-time great QBs, they’re talking about what we see today.
I love how some media pump up Montana by saying he's perfect in SB's. Sure he's 4-0. He also went one and done three straight years. He underachieved plenty. But he gets credit for somehow not making the SB more. Would you rather have 4 Gold Medals or 7 Gold Medals with 3 Silvers? I'll take the latter please.
Someone in the media brought up: "Look what he did with the 93 Chiefs. Got them to a championship game against a superior Bills team". Cool. He lost. So there's a fail right there. Brady got the Bucs to a championship game against the favored Packers in Lambeau. And won.
Montana might've played in an era where football was tougher physically. But he also played in an era without free agency. An era where the NFC was way superior than the AFC. Every SB Brady was in was against a juggernaut, great team, or team just as good as Pats. 07 Giants may not have had a great regular season. But they were a great team.
Brady passed Montana as soon as James White scored that game winning TD in SB 51.
The debate is no longer who the best QB ever is. The debate is who is 2-5.
Long story short, Brady passed Montana long ago.
The fact that some people think those three one and dones are better than Brady losing three Super Bowls is incredible.
Is that the Gintz? Those guys lol... they can't ever REALLY be a great dynasty but they sure can derail other peoplesJust sayin…the hit on Joe in 1991 that derailed his career...in 2021 we’d call that completely legal. Marshall didn’t hit his head or hit him low. Not trying to pile on, but it’s fair to say this had nothing to do with the rule differences. Montana made a fateful mistake in winding up like that with no awareness Marshall was closing in on him. We’ve always seen Brady’s sixth sense like awareness of stuff like this.
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Speaking of comparing across eras... for a guy not playing for New England, I really gotta love Brady. I used to think "Man. Graham. 7 rings, well, nobody does that in this era..." Now I don't.This one always makes me laugh. Him playing it off as "one of those guys, I cant remember, won seven or nine championships..." He knows damn well it was Graham and he won seven but he's trying to play it off as being casual and humble.
Graham was doing it in 8 and 7 team leagues sometimes. Come on man. Pretty easy to go "deep in the playoffs" in that situation. I don't know why nobody considers that.
But once again, what's the achievement level?Graham won 4 in the AAFC and 3 in the NFL. The AAFC was a B-League, though it was superior to a minor league level of play. It had a lot of good players.
4-0 in AAFC (won 4 in 4 years)
3-3 in NFL (won 3 in 6 years; lost championship game all other times.)
So, I think it‘s fair to say Graham won 3 official rings and probably 5 if you use a simple adjustment. Incredible to make 6 NFL Championship Games in a row, and 10 overall Championship Games in a row.