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Wasn't sold on Maye when we drafted him... Thought he would be a potential project QB ... But I've seen enough to figure the kid is positioned for success in the NFL... Much more so than Mack Jones ever was...

Looks like he's got a bright future... Hope AVP can accelerate his development in the early part of the upcoming season... While I don't believe he should start the year, the shoulder injury to brissette may force that issue... I am a firm believer that the line needs to demonstrate competency prior to Drake starting...
 
Wasn't sold on Maye when we drafted him... Thought he would be a potential project QB ... But I've seen enough to figure the kid is positioned for success in the NFL... Much more so than Mack Jones ever was...

Looks like he's got a bright future... Hope AVP can accelerate his development in the early part of the upcoming season... While I don't believe he should start the year, the shoulder injury to brissette may force that issue... I am a firm believer that the line needs to demonstrate competency prior to Drake starting...
What kept you??
 
Why beat around the bush??
 
He's looked good so far. Only negative things from the game I can point to last night are a bit nitpicky:

1) He sailed an easy dump off to Douglas.
2) Though it was a good play overall, I would have liked the crossing route to Douglas to be more ahead of him so he can make some YAC and not take a headshot from the DB.
3) The tight window through to Polk could have split him in half.

But that's it. Everything else he did looked poised, he's shown some good subtle pocket movement while keeping his eyes down field, made a play with his legs, and would have had more success if the OL wasn't a mess. I'm also assuming the botched snap under center was more on Leverett, but it's possible it was on Maye. The low snap in the shotgun was 100% on Leverett.

Encouraging stuff.
 
My take from the start has been that this year is about next and years following, with the #1 priority being the development /evaluation of Drake Maye. I personally do not care how many wins they have this year. Wins can "teach a team to win," I suppose, but they also drop you down the draft order, and given that this is at least a two-years-to-go rebuild, this team needs draft picks.

Would or could it accelerate Maye's development to start, giving him "live bullets" experience? Sure, but the problem is just that: those live bullets in the form of aggressive defenses (and any defense will be aggressive playing a rookie QB). With this O-line - unspeakably bad and if this game is any indication, poorly coached - Maye will get hurt. I doubt, given his temperament, that he will suffer the sort of PTSD psychological ruination Mac suffered, but the likelihood of physical injury is obviously high.

Mayo pays lip service to the "best player plays" ethos, but Mayo says all sorts of thing, usually followed up with a comment to the contrary )"at the same time..."), so I pay little attention to what he says. (Bill didn't give us much, but when he said something. at least he meant it.) In this case, "playing the best player" - Maye at his point - would be the wrong thing to do, would be in contradiction with what I take to be the higher priority: seeing to Maye's health and development.

If Brisset is in fact injured, i still would not start Maye. Because I don't really care about this year's record, I frankly don't much care who starts in that circumstance. The fanboy will yammer like precitable klaxons, of course, if they trot the Zapster out there. Milton is farrrrr from ready, and seems worrisomely content with his limitations. Maybe they would yank some out-of-work QB nullity off his couch. Whatever: it doesn't really matter.

Maye has demonstrated his potential, his value. If we are to realize that potential and capitalize in the medium and long term on that value, he has to sit.

Who is the villain in all this? First, there are the failures of late-career Bill Belichick, particularly his failures as GM, but also his foolish dereliction re Mac. Second (and more currently) there is the failure of the new regime to do a better job providing an O-line with at least minimal competence. That they have failed to do. The QB conundrum is a direct result of that failure, and is the reason Drake Maye's development will have to be backburnered for the time being.
 
Wasn't sold on Maye when we drafted him... Thought he would be a potential project QB ... But I've seen enough to figure the kid is positioned for success in the NFL... Much more so than Mack Jones ever was...

Looks like he's got a bright future... Hope AVP can accelerate his development in the early part of the upcoming season... While I don't believe he should start the year, the shoulder injury to brissette may force that issue... I am a firm believer that the line needs to demonstrate competency prior to Drake starting...
Agreed. I've come to the reality that Drake is the only one who can help this line. While I don't believe the line While be in such dissaray come week one as it was during last nights pre season finale. However the tackle spots are glaring.

I believe Brissett is more injured than he or the team may be letting on. The throws Drake made the accuracy the windows.. thos are traits you see in top QBs. I'm really excited about Drake and what he can be for this organization.
 
I doubt, given his temperament, that he will suffer the sort of PTSD psychological ruination Mac suffered, but the likelihood of physical injury is obviously high.

Who is the villain in all this? First, there are the failures of late-career Bill Belichick, particularly his failures as GM, but also his foolish dereliction re Mac. Second (and more currently) there is the failure of the new regime to do a better job providing an O-line with at least minimal competence. That they have failed to do. The QB conundrum is a direct result of that failure, and is the reason Drake Maye's development will have to be backburnered for the time being.
I think Patriots fans are the ones with PTSD and it's because of Mac. So much is blamed on the previous regime, we're so hands off on the new QB, and it's all because Mac is gutless. We have PTSD so we're responding in a way that makes us fearful Maye will turn into Mac if not handled correctly.

But it just may be that Mac was incredibly soft.

On an early play last night, Maye was aware of the blind side rusher coming free and he stepped up into the pocket. Mac was obliterated time and again by those rushers as he stood like a scared statue in the pocket.

I know one thing for certain: I have hurt my ankle worse than Mac did when he cried in pain like a baby. I know there was an incredible amount of pain. I also know I didn't react like Mac.
 
I think Patriots fans are the ones with PTSD and it's because of Mac. So much is blamed on the previous regime, we're so hands off on the new QB, and it's all because Mac is gutless. We have PTSD so we're responding in a way that makes us fearful Maye will turn into Mac if not handled correctly.

But it just may be that Mac was incredibly soft.

On an early play last night, Maye was aware of the blind side rusher coming free and he stepped up into the pocket. Mac was obliterated time and again by those rushers as he stood like a scared statue in the pocket.

I know one thing for certain: I have hurt my ankle worse than Mac did when he cried in pain like a baby. I know there was an incredible amount of pain. I also know I didn't react like Mac.
I agree that the jury is very much out on Mac, and that his limitations of Moxie and arm strength may prevent his ever being a "franchise quarterback," but his failure here was ensured by Bill's asinine and childish attitude towards him and his fireable dereliction in providing obviously incompetent coaching and a lousy surrounding roster. Bill and Mac both are at fault, but in my mind, Bill's was the less forgivable failure, because it was so self-indulgently irresponsible, and because he ought to have known better than to be such an ass about it all.

I wish Mac well. His preseason has been quite good, offering at least a glimpse of a prospect of future success for him.
 
I think Patriots fans are the ones with PTSD and it's because of Mac. So much is blamed on the previous regime, we're so hands off on the new QB, and it's all because Mac is gutless. We have PTSD so we're responding in a way that makes us fearful Maye will turn into Mac if not handled correctly.

But it just may be that Mac was incredibly soft.

On an early play last night, Maye was aware of the blind side rusher coming free and he stepped up into the pocket. Mac was obliterated time and again by those rushers as he stood like a scared statue in the pocket.

I know one thing for certain: I have hurt my ankle worse than Mac did when he cried in pain like a baby. I know there was an incredible amount of pain. I also know I didn't react like Mac.
Me too stater I almost broke mine and didn't cry like a byaaach!
 
If Maye starts, needs to be some patience as well. The rookie mistakes are bound to happen, but as you've stated the flashes are there more than Mac
The real reason to start him now is the get the mistakes behind him and grow his experience to accelerate his development.
He would be better in his first game if you wait to play him. But he will be better in that game, whenever it is, if you start him now.
 
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