If we draft a QB, which QB would you want?

[Snake Eyes]

AJ is a bit short, as 6-5/6-6 is the ideal height... I see AJ drafted in the 2nd-3rd round.

Don't tell Drew Brees or Aaron Rodgers.

 

[crew1954]

Unfortunately, **** Rehbein is not around this time to find that Darkhiorse.

But Sam Wyche is.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

So we've gone from the take extra FA, etc. measures to win now while Brady is still elite 180 degrees to let's piss away a high pick on a QB even though we have major holes for a SB contender. Never mind that Brady has no health, etc. issues like say Peyton Manning. Shouldn't Denver instead trade up for one of these guys?

Yes, it's risk to say a late round developmental QB can be our #2 in 2015 or that we'll be lucky enough to find a FA #2 in 2015 but I take that risk every time over pissing away a sorely needed #1 or 2 on a guy who if all goes well is ready for FA by the time Brady retires.

Draftniks get too psyched over young QB glamor talent.

 

[patsinthesnow]

QB values I like:

Johnny Manziel pick 29

Jimmy Garoppolo pick 62

Tom Savage pick 130

Kenny Guiton round 6-7

 

[james87654]

whoever BB thinks is the best, as I don't know nearly enough to say

 

[Jimke]

I don't want the Patriots to panic and invest a high pick but I hope
they at least bring in a UDFA.

 

[Oinko]

McCarron's not enough of an athlete to play well in the league -- not enough strength, size, arm strength. Just not enough of it all.

 

[SB39]

AJ and it's not even really close on the rest. Don't worry I'll be sure to bump this in like, 4 years when AJ is a quality starter in this league and Johnny Football is a Ryan Leaf-esque bust.

You're half right.

 

[mmasterkillah]

I personally would like David Fales.

We won't need to invest a high pick in him in all likelihood, but he's hugely underrated by the media. He had a good pro day, too.

The only question with Fales is if he has enough athleticism or arm strength.

I think Manziel will be a great player as long as he isn't pigeon holed into a system that doesn't suit him at all. He's a perfectly able passer to translate to the NFL.

 

[Joker]

David FALES???????????...can you imagine the media headlines if he plays a bad game?

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

I personally would like David Fales.

We won't need to invest a high pick in him in all likelihood, but he's hugely underrated by the media. He had a good pro day, too.

The only question with Fales is if he has enough athleticism or arm strength.

I think Manziel will be a great player as long as he isn't pigeon holed into a system that doesn't suit him at all. He's a perfectly able passer to translate to the NFL.

Dunno anything about David but if arm strength is an issue, he fails. Remember Kingsberry with the Pats? Had good reads, good understanding but could not throw hard. Gotta throw the outs to make the NFL. Watched him in summer camp and could not understand how any scout said sign the kid as he threw like I did. Lobs.

 

[Gumby]

Things we know:
- Brady under contract til 2017
- Draftee has only a 4-year max contract 2014,15,16,17
- Brady has no serious health issues presently
- You dont NEED a top 5 QB to make it to/ or/ win a SB (recent history: grossman, kapernick /or/ eli, flacco, anyone)

Assumptions - things we likely know to be true:
- Mallet will not be on Pats in 2015 (will look elsewhere for a pay-day or an opportunity to start unless TB badly injured and he thinks he can take his job)
- If you want a rookie or year-2/3 (of playing) guy to take you to a SB, he better be a #1 pick.
(R wilson is exception to this, but he dropped 2 rounds cause of his height (madden said he would have been #1 overall if not for his height) and you can argue the D took seattle to the sb, not the qb [3 TDs, 524yds and 2 fumbles in 3 games aint exactly lightning in a bottle])
- You can find a FA vet QB to take you to a SB (warner, p manning, ...)
- You are paying a 1 rnd pick to have an impact -- THAT MEANS STARTER or starter in waiting (1 yr) if a QB.

So my conclusions:
- If Pats draft a QB THIS YEAR; they are drafting MALLETS REPLACEMENT and not TB's replacement.
- So, Drafting a qb in rd 1 is a WASTE .
- Drafting a qb in rd 2-3 is GENERALLY NOT going to get you a guy who will CARRY you to a SB in 2017-18 and is INEFFICIENT USE of draft capital when comparing QB quality in rd2-3 vs rd4-5.

Therefore, they should draft somebody in Rd 4-6 who can be a solid backup, and not look to hit a homerun top 5 QB talent right now.

For TB's REPLACEMENT Pats need to wait 1-2 years and either draft a #1 round pick, look for a real good FA, or do both and let them compete.

So, I am not getting all excited about these QB visits, much ado about nothing but BB due diligence and prep work IMHO.

 

[Kontradiction]

Whoever we can get with pick #244. Admittedly I have not looked at any QBs in this draft outside the top 5 and I am not impressed. If I don't believe a QB can be top 10 in this league I am not in favor of picking him up in any round.

I don't believe any of these QBs can do that consistently so I would rather spend the lowest draft capital possible and try for someone else next year if there is someone worth taking.

Bridgewater faced one of the best defenses in college football, chock full of future pros, and proceeded to surgically shred them on national television. You weren't impressed by that?

 

[mayoclinic]

Garrett Gilbert.

Garrett Gilbert's strong pro day will boost NFL draft stock - NFL.com

 

[50-yard-line]

Logan Thomas in the 6th round to play tight end.

That's it.

 

[Brady6]

It is important to keep in mind unless Brady retires or the team moves on from him prior to the end of his current contract any player drafted this year would be a UFA the same offseason Brady retires. That makes zero sense whatsoever in my opinion.

Brady’s replacement at the earliest needs to be drafted in 2015 so the team has at least one season with him as the starter on a rookie contract.

 

[Brady6]

I would not draft a QB but I would sign one of these QBs as a UDFA –

1) Jeff Mathews, Cornell
2) Dustin Vaughan, West Texas A&M
3) DeNarius McGhee, Montana St.
4) Brock Jensen, North Dakota St.
5) Seth Lobato, Northern Colorado
6) Jamal Londry-Jackson, Appalachian St.
7) Emmanuel Lewis, New Mexico Highlands

I ordered them in order of preference the top two being my primary targets.

 

[midwestpatsfan]

I like the idea of taking a QB day 3.
Those choices are Mettenberger, McCarron, Brett Smith, and my personal favorite, Tom Savage.

 

[mmasterkillah]

Dunno anything about David but if arm strength is an issue, he fails. Remember Kingsberry with the Pats? Had good reads, good understanding but could not throw hard. Gotta throw the outs to make the NFL. Watched him in summer camp and could not understand how any scout said sign the kid as he threw like I did. Lobs.

Fales has a stronger arm than Peyton Manning.

EDIT: Then again, I'm a Colt McCoy fan. So, I don't know.

 

[AzorianPats]

McCarron the obvious pick. The comparisons to Brady been there for a couple of years already, but another QB that I like alot , and as been successful in college is Aaron Murray. He's coming off an injury, so he might be available in rounds 4-5. Why not kick the tires on him? I think it can be a perfect situation, and good value.