If Jets were to beat the Patriots then Mangini becomes...

[rabthepat]

Sept 9: Meadowlands. No Seymour. No Harrison. New Pats WR Corps

December 16: Foxboro. Rested Seymour. Rested Harrison. In-Sync Pats WR Corps

Q: Which game do you think would be the Jets best opportunity?

A: If the Jets don't win Sunday, their chances don't get any better for the second game. If they do win Sunday, they have merely held serve.

"It's just how it is".

LOL...good points.

 

[spacecrime]

Mangini becomes a HC whose team won a division game at home . . . if the Jest is to be competitive this year this is a game they SHOULD win. I don't think they will but if they do all it says if they're competitive with us.

Again, it's in NY - the Jets should win.

Agree. Division games are different than other games. Each team knows the other intimately, and there is always extra motivation. If you don't at least go .500 in division games, you kinda suck, you know.

A good team goes 4-2 in their division. A decent team goes 3-3, winning home games and losing away games. Bad teams lose more division games than they win.

 

[Major **********]

yeah it means you were probably still in high school sitting in back of the class with acne :rocker: to pun attended

Wow. Did you come up with that all by yourself or did you copy and paste it? My gues is you copy pasted it. Way to witty for you to have come up with it by yourself.

dont even try and compare 2003 to 2007 thats a battle you cant and wont win. but thanks for the reminder i remember that game vividly, started throwing paper airplanes mid 2nd quater

I'm sure you knew all a long in 2003 how things would turn out.

 

[spacecrime]

you really would look at a week 1 loss as a fluke???

Yeah, it would be like Appalachian State beating Michigan. Sure, it can happen, but it's a fluke.

i just wanted to state the point a jets win would not mean a fluke by any means, were a good football team, are we on the level of the pats, colts and chargers, no not yet, but were still a good football team that can beat any of those teams.

Even if you beat the Pats, you would still be Appalachian State. Don't let it go to your head.

Why not wait until you actually beat us home and away, then do your bragging. It seems to me that if the Pats and Jets split their games, Jets fans are in heaven, and Pats fans are bummed as hell. What does that say about their respective teams?

 

[gangreenman]

Sept 9: Meadowlands. No Seymour. No Harrison. New Pats WR Corps

December 16: Foxboro. Rested Seymour. Rested Harrison. In-Sync Pats WR Corps

Q: Which game do you think would be the Jets best opportunity?

A: If the Jets don't win Sunday, their chances don't get any better for the second game. If they do win Sunday, they have merely held serve.

"It's just how it is".

Correct. But the Pats are supposed to win both games, therefore meaning that the 'pressure' is on them, regardless of the situation. I agree that as of right now, the Jets have a better chance of winning on Sept 9 then in December... But the pressure is still mainly on the Pats.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

you really would look at a week 1 loss as a fluke??? you got to be kidding me lol anything to make you sleep at night i guess.

OK. you're signature is obnoxious. But, you have a point...

Of the 42 SuperBowl's, only six have been won by teams who started the season with a loss (one started with a tie). so, if you lose the first game, it isn't fatal, but the odds are against you. here are the stats:

1967 Packers tied their opener, lost four games all year and won the SB
1981 49er's lost their opener, lost two games all year and won the SB
1986 Giants lost opener, two games all year, won SB
1993 Cowboys lost opener (lost first two games!), four games all year and won SB
2001 Pats lost opener (lost first two games!), five games all year and won SB
2002 Bucs lost opener, four games all year and won SB
2003 Pats lost opener, two games all year and won SB.

It's interesting that four of the seven have occured since the Cap and Free Agency.

 

[QuiGon]

With the way they celebrated last time when they beat us and with some of the experts picking us to go all the way this year I could see a post Jets upset win going out of control.

It was actually after that win that the media started widely using the name "Man-genius". Mark my words, that label will eventually come to haunt him. The media loves to build someone up just to tear them down.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

If Mangini pulls off the upset victory - they'll probably bronze him and encase him in cement under the new Giants' stadium as a good luck charm.

 

[stinkypete]

The 2nd best coach in the division, just like he is now.

 

[Kdo5]

Jets Fan 10 you are going to look like more of a fool than you already are if we beat you.

 

[spacecrime]

Correct. But the Pats are supposed to win both games, therefore meaning that the 'pressure' is on them, regardless of the situation.

Are you saying that the Pats feel pressure to win the game, but the Jets can win or lose and it's okay with them?

I hope not, because the score will be 56-3 again and a pretty boring game.

Of course the Jets have pressure to win, as much as the Patriots. Neither team wants to start 0-1.

 

[frankiesfly]

Exactly. They would merely be holding serve to a team that is short-handed (2 key players who will reinvigorate the Pats later in the season) and on the road.

All the pressure in this game is on the Jets. It's silly to say they would be done after just one game, but they would have lost their best opportunity for a leg up.

I agree. All the pressure is on the Jets. This is a huge opportunity for them. If they do win this game, it would be a great momentum boost for them. Something i think they were riding on last year. A first game of the season as a home opener, could be devastating to them if they lose, which i think will happen.

 

[gangreenman]

Are you saying that the Pats feel pressure to win the game, but the Jets can win or lose and it's okay with them?

I hope not, because the score will be 56-3 again and a pretty boring game.

Of course the Jets have pressure to win, as much as the Patriots. Neither team wants to start 0-1, you dolt.

No, of course all the players for both teams want to win the game equally, that will almost always be the case. By pressure, I meant as a team, the Pats are in a more pressure situation because they are 'supposed' to win. Therefore, if they lose, they will take more heat for it then the Jets will if they lose. However, if the Jets win they'll get a lot more praise for the W then the Pats will if they win, because, once again, the Pats are the favorites.

Actually, its sorta like Appalachain St. Vs. Michigan but to a MUCH less of a degree. If Appalachain State had lost that game like they were supposed to, do you think they'd be facing anywhere near the public critisizm that Michigan is facing? Difference is in that game, UM was probably favored by 36.5, where the Pats are only favored by 6.5, but you get the idea I hope.

 

[gangreenman]

I agree. All the pressure is on the Jets. This is a huge opportunity for them. If they do win this game, it would be a great momentum boost for them. Something i think they were riding on last year. A first game of the season as a home opener, could be devastating to them if they lose, which i think will happen.

This is a great opportunity for the Jets, but the pressure is still on the Pats.

Put it this way, if the Jets were to shock people and win the division, they would have to win this game. But the thing is nobody expects the Jets to win their division, and that includes a lot of their fans, therefore the pressure is still on the Pats.

 

[gangreenman]

The 2nd best coach in the division, just like he is now.

You think he'll move ahead of Bellicheck? Is **** Jauron really that good??

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Is **** Jauron really that good??

No, but Cam cameron is some kinda awsome, just ask any fishhead.

 

[frankiesfly]

This is a great opportunity for the Jets, but the pressure is still on the Pats.

Put it this way, if the Jets were to shock people and win the division, they would have to win this game. But the thing is nobody expects the Jets to win their division, and that includes a lot of their fans, therefore the pressure is still on the Pats.

That is true. It kind of goes both ways. I think the pressure is more on the Jets because they need as many wins as possible, especially in the division if thery want to succeed this year. The Pats are a team that i think could lose this game, and then never lose the rest of the year. As for the Jets, i can see them losing this game and having a hard time bouncing back.

 

[gangreenman]

No, but Cam cameron is some kinda awsome, just ask any fishhead.

LOL, a fishead came up to me and told me that Cam Cameron will lead the Dolphins to become this yrs surprise team.

My response was two words: Teddy Ginn...That shut him up pretty good, lol.

 

[Ring 6]

No, of course all the players for both teams want to win the game equally, that will almost always be the case. By pressure, I meant as a team, the Pats are in a more pressure situation because they are 'supposed' to win. Therefore, if they lose, they will take more heat for it then the Jets will if they lose. However, if the Jets win they'll get a lot more praise for the W then the Pats will if they win, because, once again, the Pats are the favorites.

Actually, its sorta like Appalachain St. Vs. Michigan but to a MUCH less of a degree. If Appalachain State had lost that game like they were supposed to, do you think they'd be facing anywhere near the public critisizm that Michigan is facing? Difference is in that game, UM was probably favored by 36.5, where the Pats are only favored by 6.5, but you get the idea I hope.

Let me get this straight. The Jets aren't good enough to be expected to defend their home field against a division opponent, and they feel no pressure about that?
Bad teams feel tons of pressure.

 

[spacecrime]

No, of course all the players for both teams want to win the game equally, that will almost always be the case. By pressure, I meant as a team, the Pats are in a more pressure situation because they are 'supposed' to win. Therefore, if they lose, they will take more heat for it then the Jets will if they lose. However, if the Jets win they'll get a lot more praise for the W then the Pats will if they win, because, once again, the Pats are the favorites.

Actually, its sorta like Appalachain St. Vs. Michigan but to a MUCH less of a degree. If Appalachain State had lost that game like they were supposed to, do you think they'd be facing anywhere near the public critisizm that Michigan is facing? Difference is in that game, UM was probably favored by 36.5, where the Pats are only favored by 6.5, but you get the idea I hope.

Sorry, I don't get this pressure thing. So when Michigan plays USC they feel less pressure to win than when they play Southern CT State?

I think fans get anxious. Pats fans may be concerned that teh Pats not lose a game they are supposed to win. Jets fans may feel they are supposed to lose, so if they do, no biggie.

But I don't think players feel that way. I think every Jet player believes in his heart that the Jets can win the game on Sunday as long as they execute correctly, while every Pat player believes the Pats can win as long as they execute.

As far as Michigan goes, sure they are getting more criticism than Appalacian State would get. If AS lost 35-34 they wouldn't be criticised at all I don't think.

But that doesn't mean the Mighigan team was "under pressure" to win the game, and certainly not under more pressure than they would have been had they been playing Notre Dame.