Gronk/Edelman vs. Moss/Welker

[Interception]

You're pushing a ridiculous theory. Yes, if Brady lost every offensive skill position player, his performance would likely be effected. That doesn't change anything about the argument. If you're entire premise is that Gronk and JE suck because Gaffney and Stallworth we're chopped liver, you might want to consider that between them, they had 82 catches and 8 TDs. When your top two receivers are pulling down 210 balls, it somewhat limits the numbers for the other guys. That said, the top two after Gronk and JE last year had 101 catches and 8 TDs. Not a real big difference, just a little bit more balanced offense.

A bit more balanced? Vereen, dion Lewis, Blount... That's just a bit more balanced? It's not about the top 2 after those main 2, it's about everyone after them. The mismatches. The skill sets. Maroney and his crew did not provide what Lewis and Blount do. Gaffney and Stallworth did not provide what Lafell and Amendola do.

 

[woolster22]

Go watch the moss highlights. Welker was no slouch either. I don't think I'd put Gronk in the Randy stratosphere quite yet.

 

[PatCat]

A bit more balanced? Vereen, dion Lewis, Blount... That's just a bit more balanced? It's not about the top 2 after those main 2, it's about everyone after them. The mismatches. The skill sets. Maroney and his crew did not provide what Lewis and Blount do. Gaffney and Stallworth did not provide what Lafell and Amendola do.

Someone with some sense. Hats off to you sir!!

 

[rochrist]

A bit more balanced? Vereen, dion Lewis, Blount... That's just a bit more balanced? It's not about the top 2 after those main 2, it's about everyone after them. The mismatches. The skill sets. Maroney and his crew did not provide what Lewis and Blount do. Gaffney and Stallworth did not provide what Lafell and Amendola do.

Moss did not provide what Gronk provides. Welker did not provide what JE provides.

 

[Ring 6]

These are not assumptions. You cannot evaluate an individual without looking at the team. It is a TEAM sport. Everyone is quick to point out how manning had better receivers than Brady throughout his career, so why not point out Gronk has more help than moss did? Not an assumption, that is a fact. Edelman, Lafell, Lewis, Amendola, Blount... Moss never had help like that. Denying that is just blindness.
You really think Moss wouldn't have done better with that cast?

Comparing players without including every variable that affected their performance is inaccurate and biased. Please explain how that is an assumption.

You just made a list of assumptions in order to argue you aren't making assumptions.


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[PatCat]

These are not assumptions. You cannot evaluate an individual without looking at the team. It is a TEAM sport. Everyone is quick to point out how manning had better receivers than Brady throughout his career, so why not point out Gronk has more help than moss did? Not an assumption, that is a fact. Edelman, Lafell, Lewis, Amendola, Blount... Moss never had help like that. Denying that is just blindness.
You really think Moss wouldn't have done better with that cast?

Comparing players without including every variable that affected their performance is inaccurate and biased. Please explain how that is an assumption.

Very solid post. Probably one of if not the best in this thread. Only if all understood this.

 

[SammyBlueCat]

Any takers? (December 2015)

 

[Archeryaddict12]

Very solid post. Probably one of if not the best in this thread. Only if all understood this.

Offense still performs well against a defense with only Gronk and all his "cast" around him gone in the Denver game. Lose Gronk this week and the team falls apart. Gronk is the same or if not bigger game changer than moss.

 

[English Patriot]

Better Belichick deep threat: Keshawn Martin or Brandon Lafell

 

[Angelpats]

Better Belichick deep threat: Keshawn Martin or Brandon Lafell

Tough choice. Lafell can't get seperation and Martin can't catch.