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  1. Hyped

    Hyped PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    He might be 5'9"....but with a helmet and cleats...that clears 3" at least (shrugs).

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    My thought:

    The Patriots secondary needs to KNOCK Tyree Hill and Kelce on their butts whenever Mahomes leaves the pocket. It is legal to do so. See link: Why Richard Sherman’s leveling of a Bills receiver was legal
     
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    As is the crowd.
     
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    Well, I've only ever seen these players on TV, not in person. Knowing how the lens distorts depth and whatnot, and that different guys wear different, helmets and shoes, I'm certainly not going to "trust my eyes" over publicly certified, in-person measurements.

    BTW, JJones measured at 5091.
     
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    Well, even making the not-so-safe assumption that the helmets and cleats that every player wears are identical and increase their relative heights by an identical amount, if that makes Jackson 6'1", it also makes Sammy Watkins 6'4" (he measured 6006 at the Combine and his pro day).
     
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    non issue........chargers WRs were taller
     
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    Did he stand on his tiptoes?
     
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    How about: he feels like he's 6'1 . he plays like he's 6'1 . but he's not 6'1
    (and it doesn't really matter..)
     
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  8. patriot1136

    patriot1136 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

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    I like to think this team reminds me more of 2001 than 2011, but thats just me.
     
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    Would the crowd noise affect the KC defense if the Pats audible (thru signals) out of a play, say from an I formation to an empty set with 10 secs left to snap the ball? How would the KC D communicate to adapt with all the noise, its not like they are immune to noise just because they are the home team.
     
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    They've been breaking that tendency with White rushing quite successfully . and most effectively exactly against KC (so that game DOES matter some..)

    There are many ways to keep D off balance and McD did a wonderful job first time around as he did last Sunday with seemingly much more predictable set up.

    This is extracted from Reddit via @reamer in KC D breakdown thread for illustration:


    1. Patriots show run, every LB and Safety freezes on the playaction. Develin runs a wheel route off the playaction to draw away a DB, giving the Patriots 3 blockers to 2 defenders on a screen. White goes for 18 yards untouched. Brilliant design from McDaniels



    2. White runs on 2nd down..




    3. Fake play action via Thuney & White for easy Gronk 1st down:
    (This one is not even perfectly executed w White . but the design to fake Thuney's pull for playaction completely fools KC D)



    Same thing 2 quarters later via Michel:



    And a little earlier w Hogan via White again. Fake draw to White and fake bubble screen to Edelman sucks up the defense. Hogan sells it perfectly before releasing for an easy 20 yard completion:




    So they don't really need to add on Michel receiving (although they can) + they also have Burkhead as the second dual threat to mix it in..
     
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    Good point. It's kinda like the way Edelman blocks DBs as if he's 6'7"/265.
     
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    The second clip of Gronk was "vintage Gronk", throwing a DB to the ground with one hand. KCY in wk-6 was the last game before he hurt his back.
     
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    Robdude Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    So this reminds of watching a colts game years back when the announcers were talking about how smart Colts fans are because it was so quiet when Payton was on the field and so noisy when Brady was on the field. It ofcourse had nothing to do with their sound system
     
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